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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Lilo] #585515
11/10/10 07:56 PM
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Holocaust Fund defrauded.

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While fleeing the Nazis in 1941, an 11-year-old girl dodged airplane bombs as she crossed the Dnieper River in Ukraine, ultimately finding refuge in Donetsk, where she and her mother lived in hiding until the liberation of 1944.

A 13-year-old boy escaped from Kiev with his mother and younger sister, shuttling from basements to barns and sometimes the forest, where they often stayed for weeks.

These tales were among thousands of similar accounts given in the name of elderly immigrants who were seeking reparations from the German government through a fund established to provide help to survivors of Nazi persecution.

But many of the stories were works of fiction or embellishment of facts, perpetrated by a group that included six employees and custodians of the fund, which is based in New York, federal prosecutors said on Tuesday. Eleven other defendants were outsiders who recruited and funneled applicants to the programs.

Over 16 years, the suspects used fake identification documents, doctored government records and a knowledge of Holocaust history to defraud the fund of more than $42 million, according to an indictment unsealed Tuesday by the United States attorney in Manhattan, Preet Bharara.

The defendants, the indictment says, would recruit applicants — many of them from Brighton Beach, Brooklyn — through Russian-language newspapers, offering help to people applying for compensation from the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany...


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Lilo] #585602
11/12/10 06:36 AM
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Teen's life too short -- and too public

BY BRIAN DICKERSON


Suicide and Rape allegation

Under Michigan law, it is illegal to have sex with a 14-year-old girl, even if she consents.

But there's no law against broadcasting on television the same 14-year-old's account of her sexual activity. And that's a shame, because if there were such a law, Samantha Kelly might still be alive today.

Late on Sept. 26, Samantha's mother, June Justice, told Huron Township police that her daughter, a freshman at Huron High School, admitted having sexual intercourse with Joseph Tarnopolski, an 18-year-old senior who lived eight homes down the road from theirs.

In a handwritten statement and two separate interviews conducted outside her mother's presence, Samantha said she and Tarnopolski had sex for two hours one morning while Tarnopolski's parents were away. She admitted telling Tarnopolski that she was anxious to lose her virginity. Police later found text message exchanges supporting the two teenagers' accounts that their sexual encounter had been consensual.

Those accounts, coupled with the fact that Samantha was too young to consent legally to sexual contact with anyone, gave prosecutors the grounds to charge Tarnopolski with third-degree criminal sexual conduct, a felony punishable by up to 15 years in prison and 25 years on Michigan's public sex offender registry.

These would surely qualify as seismic events in the lives of any two teenagers. But for Samantha Kelly and Joseph Tarnopolski, things were about to get much worse.

In early October, distressed by the hostility her daughter faced at school from Tarnopolski and his friends, June Justice contacted Detroit's Fox News affiliate, WJBK-TV (Channel 2). On Oct. 18, the station broadcast a 2 ½-minute segment in which Samantha, accompanied on-screen by her mother, charged for the first time that Tarnopolski had forced himself on her. An anchor's introduction to the piece called it a case of rape.

The issue of coercion was irrelevant to the statutory charge prosecutors had lodged against Tarnopolski. But the Channel 2 broadcast complicated the case in two ways.

First, it introduced a new version of events inconsistent with both Samantha's previous accounts and her text messages to the defendant.

Second, it turned what had been a closely held secret into general knowledge among the 850 students at Huron High. Many sided with Tarnopolski, a popular upperclassman who vehemently denied Samantha's allegations of coercion and branded his accuser a liar..........


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Lilo] #585612
11/12/10 10:07 AM
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This is just sick and horrifying. I nearly threw up reading this. I have nieces who have kids ranging from 6 to 2. If this happened to one of them there wouldn't be a prison guarded enough to prevent me from killing this fiend.

http://www.aolnews.com/crime/article/4-y...test=latestnews


How about a little less questions and a lot more shut the hell up - Brian Griffin

When there's a will...put me in it.
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Lilo] #585629
11/12/10 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted By: Lilo
Originally Posted By: Turnbull
A very interesting legal issue has popped up in a big murder trial in this town:
A stockbroker was on trial for having murdered his ex-wife with a golf club in order to duck paying alimony. One complication was that the ex-wife had a boarder who was suffering from cancer, and who later killed himself. And, the medical examiner found DNA under the victim's fingernails, but none of the DNA matched the ex-husband's. Then his lawyers turned up an anonymous e-mail (sent to them) saying that a bunch of drug dealers had been on the way to kill the boarder because he welshed on paying them. Instead, when they arrived, they found the ex-wife, and killer her. The defendant's lawyers pressed to have it introduced in evidence, but the prosecutor objected, and the judge upheld the prosecutor.

Well, the prosecutor found out that the defendant's daughter sent the e-mail from an Internet cafe, after visiting her father in jail. So, the prosecutor added fraud and other charges against the defendant, and now wanted to have the e-mail introduced as evidence. This resulted in the trial being suspended for weeks while the lawyers and the judge hassled it out. Then the defense team suddely withdrew from the case, citing "conflict of interest." All of these shenanigans have been held in secret.

The local newspaper filed suit to have the judge open up the closed doors and reveal what's been happening. The prosecutor's ok with it. But the defendant's new lawyer (a public defender because he ran out of money, which is probably why his initial team quit) says it'll violate his client's right to a fair trial. The judge is on the verge of declaring a mistrial, which will deepen the secrecy.


Is the daughter of the defendant also the daughter of the woman who was killed?

Yes. And, equally bizarre, the stockbroker's ex-girlfriend tipped the prosecutor to the daughter's sending the e-mail. The prosecutor gave the daughter immunity to testify, meaning she either admits to sending the e-mail, under oath, or she gets prosecuted for fraud, along with her father.


Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Turnbull] #586198
11/19/10 06:03 PM
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By MIKE SCHNEIDER The Associated Press updated 1 hour 49 minutes ago 2010-11-19T20:10:33

ORLANDO, Fla. — A federal judge ordered actor Wesley Snipes to surrender to authorities Friday so he can begin serving a three-year prison sentence for tax-related crimes.


"Generosity. That was my first mistake."
"Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us."
"Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: olivant] #586270
11/20/10 01:08 PM
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Well, that just goes to show that Mob guys aren't the only people stupid enough to get caught in tax raps. It's easy for the government to bring a tax case to trial: they don't have to show how you made the money, only that you are or were living above your means. And don't expect any sympathy from a jury--the prosecutor will make the point that the reason they are paying high taxes is because people like you are cheating on yours.


Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Turnbull] #586275
11/20/10 01:40 PM
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I just don't get it. These guys are making millions. Why risk it all by cheating?


"Generosity. That was my first mistake."
"Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us."
"Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: olivant] #586276
11/20/10 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: olivant
I just don't get it. These guys are making millions. Why risk it all by cheating?


Greed. Why did Martha Stewart commit stock fraud?? The profits she made were a drop in the bucket compared to her total income.


President Emeritus of the Neal Pulcawer Fan Club
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Sicilian Babe] #586705
11/27/10 07:37 AM
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This is a very sad story but I'm not sure what the writer wanted to see done. The player is innocent until proven guilty and now without the ability to confront his former accuser I imagine he will not be able to be charged at all.

Suicide at St. Mary's


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Lilo] #586713
11/27/10 11:14 AM
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The FBI arrested a Somali idiot who loaded his van with what he thought were explosives to be detonated at an Oregon tree lighting ceremony. It was a sting operation.


"Generosity. That was my first mistake."
"Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us."
"Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: olivant] #586718
11/27/10 12:00 PM
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I just now saw the headline. Don't know the details but my God! confused It seems, of late, the Feds seem to be on the ball as far as thwarting some of these attacks no? That's a good thing. smile


TIS


"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK

"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon

Re: Crime & Justice [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #586768
11/28/10 10:17 AM
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I thought the whole point of divorce was that people go their separate ways, not to come back years later with a hand out.

A man who shared one of Britain's biggest Lottery jackpots has been forced to pay his ex-wife £2 million 10 years after she left him.

Nigel Page, 44, and new partner Justine hit the headlines in February when they collected £56 million in the Euromillions draw.

However Mr Page, from Gloucestershire, has now been forced to pay his former wife Wendy, 43, in an out-of-court settlement. She is believed to have been seeking up to £8 million, but Mr Page agreed to pay £2 million to ward off legal action.

The money will go to his ex-wife after his offer to put it into a trust fund for their 13-year-old daughter Ella was turned down..

Nigel Page Article


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Lilo] #586775
11/28/10 10:57 AM
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Interesting Lilo. The article says the papers did not include a "clean break clause?" eek It does seem unfair that he should pay.

Does anyone remember a couple years ago, a woman who won a huge lottery (millions) while in the process of a divorce. I can't remember if it was in California or not (don't think so though). She kept it from her husband (and the law). Well, the judge ordered her to give it all to her husband. lol Talk about major bummer (for her). lol

TIS


"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK

"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon

Re: Crime & Justice [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #586782
11/28/10 01:14 PM
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That reminds me of a story from my long-ago youth:
Aeons ago, I was a reporter for the Wall Street Journal, which was pretty dull in those days. All of us read the New York Daily News avidly for its lively content.

Seemed that the Dutchess of Argyle was being sued for divorce in open court, which was pretty rare in the UK in those days. Hubby alleged that she was a nympho, regularly took on 35 guys at once, etc. Naturally the News was all over that story--they flew 3 reporters to London to provide daily coverage.

In once story, buried way in the middle, was this deathless phrase: "At one point the prosecution entered as evidence a photo purporting to show the Dutchess, nude, in bed with another man. The man could not be identified because his head was obscured." lol

We all thought that was an example of brilliant journalism. We posted that clipping on our bulletin board: "Why can't we get writing that that in the Journal?"


Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Turnbull] #586979
12/01/10 07:05 AM
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Judge dismisses Health Care Challenge

RICHMOND, Va. — A federal judge on Tuesday dismissed Liberty University's lawsuit challenging the Obama administration's new federal health care law, declaring that a provision requiring most individuals to obtain insurance is constitutional.

The ruling by U.S. District Judge Norman K. Moon in Lynchburg is the second court decision upholding the law, following one in Michigan in October. University law school dean Mathew Staver said in a telephone interview that he will promptly appeal the ruling to the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond.

Attorneys general from several states have filed another lawsuit in Florida, and a separate challenge by Virginia Attorney General Kenneth Cuccinelli is pending in federal court in Richmond...


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Lilo] #587771
12/10/10 04:10 PM
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Actor Wesley Snipes has arrived at a federal prison near this Pennsylvania town to begin serving a three-year sentence for this crime. The minimum-security facility doesn't have fences and the nonviolent inmates live in barracks.


"Generosity. That was my first mistake."
"Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us."
"Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: olivant] #587773
12/10/10 04:16 PM
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I'm talking to Whistler now. Me and the Old Man are gonna break Blade out...


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Lilo] #587775
12/10/10 04:28 PM
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I haven't been following the Snipes story to a great degree nor do I know anything about his personal life, but am surprised he actually got jail time. eek It seems they would be able to have him repay what he owes???

Anyway, I actually like some of his films (although I haven't seen them all). Unlike most of you though, Blade is not one of them. I liked Demolition Man, U.S. Marshall, Passenger 57 to name a few.



TIS


"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK

"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon

Re: Crime & Justice [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #587780
12/10/10 05:12 PM
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In prison his nickname will probaby be Snippy.


"Generosity. That was my first mistake."
"Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us."
"Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: olivant] #587784
12/10/10 05:56 PM
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Columbia Professor accused of heinous act.
Article on David Epstein


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Lilo] #587794
12/10/10 11:00 PM
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I see today that the sick bastard who kidnapped Elizabeth Smart was found guilty today. I hope he rots. Also I hope he gets raped on a daily basis just like he did to her.


Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12


Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Mignon] #588034
12/13/10 03:23 PM
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A Virginia judge ruled that the health care mandate was unconstitutional. Unfortunately I don't have time now to read the entire decision. Obviously the SC will have to decide it. I don't know how soon that will be.

Health Care Decision


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Lilo] #588052
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I believe our whole presidential situation is unconstitutional no birth certificate no citizen that is the way I see it, but then again I am not a politician what do I know.


It is better to beg for forgivness than ask for permission.
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They will probabally rule that he is mentally incompentent and put him in the country club. Put a bullet in the Fucks head so we do not have to pay for this guy with our taxes.


It is better to beg for forgivness than ask for permission.
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Lorenzo] #588143
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Originally Posted By: Lorenzo
I believe our whole presidential situation is unconstitutional no birth certificate no citizen that is the way I see it, but then again I am not a politician what do I know.


http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/08/05/birther_faq


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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WABC/Channel 7 weather babe Heidi Jones was arrested for perpetrating the ultimate snow job -- falsely claiming to cops that a man had tried to rape her while she was jogging in Central Park, sources said yesterday.

Jones, who anchors the station's weekend evening weather coverage and fills in on "Good Morning America," was charged Monday with filing a false report, a Class A misdemeanor. If convicted, she could face up to a year in jail or a $1,000 fine.

WABC will announce on its noon newscast today that it is suspending her indefinitely, a spokesman said. Sources indicated that the move is the first step toward firing her...

Liar


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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12/15/10 08:44 PM
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Good for WABC!

It's hard enough for women who have actually been raped to prove it because shame often prevents them from reporting the crime, etc. But to outright make something up for attention? Horrible!

And of course, she just had to say it was a "Hispanic" looking man who tried to rape her lilly-white ass.

That a girl, Heidi. Don't just cry out for attention, start a race riot while your at it. You stupid bitch mad.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Lorenzo] #588380
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Originally Posted By: Lorenzo
I believe our whole presidential situation is unconstitutional no birth certificate no citizen that is the way I see it, but then again I am not a politician what do I know.


This "conspiracy" is just as fucking stupid as the government-behind-9/11 attacks "conspiracy."

More like conspiracies of SHIT!

Re: Crime & Justice [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #588452
12/16/10 01:34 PM
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Here's one I'd like Oli and/or the other lawyers here to comment on:

Earlier I posted about a big murder trial in my hometown. The defendant's lawyers quit abruptly after an e-mail they received indicating that the victim was murdered by a gang turned out to be a plant by the defendant's daughter, at his instruction. The judge declared a mistrial, and the defendant was later reindicted.

The local paper ran an article quoting the dismissed jurors' opinions of the aborted trial. Most of them thought the defendant was guilty according to what they heard, but said they probably would have voted to acquit because the prosecution failed to provide convincing evidence of guilt (i.e., no murder weapon, no DNA or blood matching the defendant under the victim's nails or in her home, clumsy forensic work, etc.).

My question: I know it's very difficult for a defendant to get a change of venue based on "prejudicial" accounts in news media, editorials, blogs, letters to editor, etc. But this is a case in which the actual jurors who sat through nearly half the trial, voiced their informed opinions in the local paper. I'd think that prospective jurors in a new trial would give thos opinions greater weight. Do you think the defense would have a better case for change of venue before the new trial starts?


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Re: Crime & Justice [Re: Turnbull] #588498
12/16/10 06:25 PM
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TB, it's all a function of the state's law on the subject of a change of venue, the content of the motion for such a change, and the prosecutions response. The judge might consider the jury pool contaminated enough to grant such a motion. However, the prosecution would counter that a jury's "probable" failure to convict in the defendant' previous trial is not grounds for a venue change and that voir dire of a subsequent jury should eliminate any prejudice.


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