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Donnie Brasco appreciation thread
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This is a great movie..and i noticed there was no actual thread dedicated to this great film..so here it is... post every thing DB in here from thoughts and opinions to questions etc...
So say goodnight to the bad guy..eh cause its the last time your ever gonna see a bad guy like this again let me tell you/O.K!! im reloaded!!You motherfuckers think your big time!!!Your gonna die big time!!!O.K Here come the pain!!!
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Re: Donnie Brasco appreciation thread
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I liked this movie, Depp was amazing! yeah he looked a bit funny with his moustache and everything but his acting is superb(surpoib)....of course you gotta love pacino as lefty..great film
So say goodnight to the bad guy..eh cause its the last time your ever gonna see a bad guy like this again let me tell you/O.K!! im reloaded!!You motherfuckers think your big time!!!Your gonna die big time!!!O.K Here come the pain!!!
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Yea Pacino was really good. He IMO its the last good film he's been in. yeah i agrre with you 100% his last few wernt that good which has dissapointed me what the f%4k is up with him being in that gigli movie...the devils advocate i love..did that come out after or before donnie brasco
So say goodnight to the bad guy..eh cause its the last time your ever gonna see a bad guy like this again let me tell you/O.K!! im reloaded!!You motherfuckers think your big time!!!Your gonna die big time!!!O.K Here come the pain!!!
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yeah definently...if you dont mind keanu reeves although he does well in this film..you'll love the movie..its def the last good film hes been in then..if it came out after db...def worth owning..classic pacino acting...love it 4/5
So say goodnight to the bad guy..eh cause its the last time your ever gonna see a bad guy like this again let me tell you/O.K!! im reloaded!!You motherfuckers think your big time!!!Your gonna die big time!!!O.K Here come the pain!!!
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You can use the search function to find many many posts about the Donnie Brasco movie. It's been discussed extensively many times on here. Don Cardi yeah i thought it might have but when i searched for it in the other mob films/books/tv section there were only two threads with just a few questions asked..but yeah fair enough i shouldeve known..lol great movie non the less
So say goodnight to the bad guy..eh cause its the last time your ever gonna see a bad guy like this again let me tell you/O.K!! im reloaded!!You motherfuckers think your big time!!!Your gonna die big time!!!O.K Here come the pain!!!
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Re: Donnie Brasco appreciation thread
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nah ive never read the book...i will though
So say goodnight to the bad guy..eh cause its the last time your ever gonna see a bad guy like this again let me tell you/O.K!! im reloaded!!You motherfuckers think your big time!!!Your gonna die big time!!!O.K Here come the pain!!!
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One of fav films,great cast.Have you read the Book,as they say the books are always beter.. I read the book a few years ago, after watching the movie many many times (Such a great movie). A few things in the book, made me wonder. Joseph D. Pistone, is in movie getting more and more into the mob, and seems to have a hard time getting out. In the book, or should i say in real life, he never lost the sense of rigth and wrong, and could always keep controlled.
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One of fav films,great cast.Have you read the Book,as they say the books are always beter.. I read the book a few years ago, after watching the movie many many times (Such a great movie). A few things in the book, made me wonder. Joseph D. Pistone, is in movie getting more and more into the mob, and seems to have a hard time getting out. In the book, or should i say in real life, he never lost the sense of rigth and wrong, and could always keep controlled. Yes, the movie, while quite entertaining and well acted, took a lot of liberties with the story, which is why the book is so much better. Also, the movie completely excluded two important parts of Pistone's experience in the Mob--Tony Mirra (a "very scary guy") and a long interlude in Milwaukee involving Frank Balistrieri, the local Mafia Don. Both should have been in the film.
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I agree with both of you. I think Martin Scorsese would have been able to really do justice to the book. That would have been something TB. If you remember, DONNIE BRASCO was initially set to go into production in 1989, with Tom Cruise in the title role. It was then put on the back burner, so it wouldn't be in direct competition with THE GODFATHER PART III and GOODFELLAS, both released in late 1990. All of that being said, it was still an entertaining movie. Thank God they came to their senses and re-cast Johnny Depp as "Donnie". I don't think Cruise could have pulled it off, whereas, script deficiencies aside, Depp did a fine job.
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Forget about it is like if you agree with someone, you know, like Raquel Welch is one great piece of ass, forget about it. But then, if you disagree, like A Lincoln is better than a Cadillac? Forget about it! you know? But then, it's also like if something's the greatest thing in the world, like mingia those peppers, forget about it. But it's also like saying Go to hell! too. Like, you know, like "Hey Paulie, you got a one inch pecker?" and Paulie says "Forget about it!" Sometimes it just means forget about it.
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This is one of my all time favourites.
"It'll be a pleasure,i kill communist's for fun but for a green card im gonna carve him up real nice"
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Re: Donnie Brasco appreciation thread
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Just started to read Joe Pistone's latest Donnie Brasco book - "Unfinished Business" So far so good. Don Cardi
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I agree. The first Donnie Brasco book is one of those books that you can read several times and still enjoy. As for UNFINISHED BUSINESS, I'm about 100 pages into it. A good read that keeps you interested, BUT, there are times, so far, that I feel that Pistone is just rehashing many of the things that he's already told us about in his first book. Only with a little different spin this time. Perhaps I need to give it a chance before passing judgement on it. But so far I just can't help feeling that Pistone is just cashing in on what's basically the same story that he told us in his first book, only a bit more embelished this time around. Don Cardi
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I still feel it's better than WAY OF THE WISEGUY, DC. That book was a total rehash.
Is it me or is Pistone's ego actually getting bigger as he gets older ?
Funny how he ducks the topic of his dear friend Lin DeVecchio, the agent accused of tipping off Greg Scarpa, leading to several murders. It's mentioned in the preface but not in great detail. Just, of course, that he's innocent. What'd you expect ?
A dirty cop is no better than a rat wiseguy. If you're gonna be a cop, be a cop.
Sorry for the rant, it's a pet peeve of mine.
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Yes it is. And as I said I really should finish it before jumping to any conclusions. As for Pistone's ego? It definitely has gotten bigger and bigger over the years. Hey, what Pistone did took a lot of balls. What Pistone did was a great thing. And there is no question that he put his life in jeopardy from the moment he went undercover. What he did and how deep he got took a lot of guts and was amazing. I admire the man for that. In truth though, I cannot blame him for his inflated ego and his continual efforts to cash in on his story. The goverment gave him an plaque and a shitty $500 check for his accomplishments! That's a slap in the face. So why not try to capitolize on this as long as he can? After all he knows that suckers like us who love this shit will just keep buying what he comes out with anyway! And yes, I agree. A dirty cop is just as bad as a wiseguy. Don Cardi
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And yes, I agree. A dirty cop is just as bad as a wiseguy. Don Cardi I'll take the stand-up wiseguy over the dirty cop, any day. Even though he's a criminal, at least he's true to himself within the parameters of his own world. Unlike the cop who takes the oath to protect and serve, then sells out, like the "mob cops", or the possibly corrupt federal agent, who allegedly sold out to Greg Scarpa. However, I'll refrain from passing judgement on him until all of the evidence is in.
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As for Pistone's ego? It definitely has gotten bigger and bigger over the years. Hey, what Pistone did took a lot of balls. What Pistone did was a great thing. And there is no question that he put his life in jeopardy from the moment he went undercover. What he did and how deep he got took a lot of guts and was amazing. I admire the man for that. In truth though, I cannot blame him for his inflated ego and his continual efforts to cash in on his story. The goverment gave him an plaque and a shitty $500 check for his accomplishments! That's a slap in the face. So why not try to capitolize on this as long as he can? Don Cardi I agree. I'm sure Pistone embellished his story in many places to aggrandize his role and to sell books (and movie rights). But I also think the basic substance of his story is true. And yes indeed, he really did have coglioni to do what he did. One story I don't believe is that the Mob put a half-million-dollar bounty on his head. First, it leads us to believe that the Commission has some kind of slush fund and standing army that can be used to attack common enemies. BS! The only thing Dons have in common are greed and distrust of each other. Why would any Don contribute a dime to an effort to "get" Pistone in retaliation for a supreme screwup caused by the Bonannos? The attitude would be: "It's their problem, let them solve it." Second, if Pistone had such a huge price on his head, why would he be running around giving interviews and presiding over book signings?
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You beat me to the punch on that one TB !
I've always felt that the contract on Pistone was exaggerated, at the very least. It's been suggested that Paul Castellano, before his own murder, assured federal agents that Pistone was never in any danger.
It's been one of the most vehemently enforced "rules" wthin the US mafia, to never kill cops, reporters or prosecutors. Although I'm sure there have been exceptions, Pistone was just way too high profile to take a chance on killing.
Ordinary "victimless" crimes, such as bookmaking, would have become the focus of major investigations as a result and the wiseguys knew this. They hardly would have cost themselves so dearly in order to kill a guy who was really just doing his job.
As far as Pistone's balls ? Like bocces ! Bruno Kirby makes a great point on the DONNIE BRASCO dvd, that they all listened to hours and hours of wiretaps in studying their roles and all concluded that they, as ACTORS, couldn't have done the job that Pistone did under the constant fear of death that he was under.
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One story I don't believe is that the Mob put a half-million-dollar bounty on his head. First, it leads us to believe that the Commission has some kind of slush fund and standing army that can be used to attack common enemies. BS! Why would any Don contribute a dime to an effort to "get" Pistone in retaliation for a supreme screwup caused by the Bonannos? The attitude would be: "It's their problem, let them solve it." Second, if Pistone had such a huge price on his head, why would he be running around giving interviews and presiding over book signings?
I agree about that being BS. The only potential danger that I think he maybe could have faced in getting killed was from some half cocked up and coming soldier in the Bonnano family who may have been looking to make a name for himslef and a quick climb up the ladder. Someone who could turn around to his cohorts and say "See, look what did! I took out Joe Pistone!" And even then, if I was some mob boss, I don't think that I would want one of my people taking out a known FBI agent who was now in the public eye. Perhaps that is the reason Pistone has constantly stood in the public spotlight. Don Cardi
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Although I enjoyed UNFINISHED BUSINESS, especially the second half of it, I know where DC is coming from.
I'll tell you one thing I'm totally convinced of now - Pistone's insistence that he should have been left undercover, until he got made, had more to do with the fact that he's a bit of a wannabe himself, than anything else.
Is he an American hero ? Yes, no doubt. Does he have balls like bocces ? Yes, no doubt. But the more I read about what a tough guy gangster he would have made, that he did in fact make, the more I'm convinced that he enjoyed the power that went along with the lifestyle.
At the end of the day, was he a cop ? Yes, he was, and a damn good one. But if you read this latest book, I think you'll agree, he's a bit of a wannabe as well.
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Yup, that's the impression I got. If they left him in to get made, then he'd say, "just think of the possibilities if I make capo" and on and on.
There are no real spoilers because much of the book is a re-hash, so I'll mention one part.
Pistone claims that after the infamous 3 capos hit of 1981, Sonny Black sent him to Florida to sit down with 2 made guys to put their minds at ease about getting whacked themselves.
The idea of an old school capo sending a mere associate to assure 2 made guys that they wouldn't be hit is implausible. Actually, it's a serious breach of mob protocol, and I don't believe it.
So, it reflects what TB stated about Pistone's relationship with Sonny Black. He often comes across as a kid bragging about his ties to the mob, especially when he brags about how close he was to Sonny Black.
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Check out Capeci's column this week. This agent makes Joe Pistone look like Barney Fife ! http://www.ganglandnews.com/column.htm
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"I got cancer of the prick" LOL Poor Lefty
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When I saw the A&E episode about Joe Pistone/Donnie Brasco, I found it really interesting that at the end when Pistone was asked if there was anything he regretted or would've changed, he said "I wish could of done more" meaning that he wished he could've taken down more wiseguys. But from what I remember, the movie leaned towards Pistone sympathizing more with the wiseguys than the feds. Anyone else see this?
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I was watching this again last night and caught a Godfather parallel I never caught before.
Right after Lefty asks Donnie what he knew about "the life," Donnie replies "it's like the army, chain of command, etc..." Lefty turns around and laughs "the army, it's nothing like the army, my friend."
It just reminded me of part 1, when Sonny says "you think this is the army..." Maybe I'm stretching here, but it's something I never caught before.
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He's said on numerous occasions that his sympathy towards the wiseguys was strictly the brainchild of Hollywood, in hopes of making a more dramatic movie. In real life he had no qualms about men being jailed or even murdered due to his role as "Donnie Brasco". I don't think Depp played as being seriously sympathetic. Oh sure he maybe got along barely with Lefty sometimes, but most of the time, I got the impression it was Pistone having to tolerate him....and since Lefty was the desperate low-ranking soldier willing to show Depp the life and get him "in," thats how the relationship happened. At least that was the impression I got. If anything, the dramatic story of DONNIE BRASCO, and in Pistone's book itself, you know what I always saw it as? You all read HEART OF DARKNESS or seen APOCALYPSE NOW....really, Pistone is Kurtz going away on a mission/job, and really coming close to going up the river for good, establishing his own kingdom in this foreign land....except the superiors pulled Pistone off before he could pull a Kurtz.
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You can use the search function to find many many posts about the Donnie Brasco movie. It's been discussed extensively many times on here. Don Cardi Thanks Cardi, I was lookin' for a Search Function ... HAHA, Didn't think the site had one until "you" got me lookin' twice!
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Yo, Does anybody know if Donnie Brasco is based off of real life events? and if so (which is most likely in mobster movies), who & what?
I've never seen this one. It's on the list! Thanx!
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I've seen this movie a couple of times now and it rocks puss! I love it completely and utterly. Probably like BLIBBLEBLABBLE stated, one under-rated Pacino movie. Its truly one of my faves now and I know now that its based off of real life events. Thanks for leading me in the right direction.
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Re: Donnie Brasco appreciation thread
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I've noticed some inconsistencies from the History Channel Documentary on Donnie vs. the movie.
In the documentary, It IS NOT Lefty that presents Pistone with the diamonds. Its an earlier crew he was with. Lefty didn't come along until after Pistone had been under for awhile with "a different" "low time" mob family.
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Re: Donnie Brasco appreciation thread
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I've noticed some inconsistencies from the History Channel Documentary on Donnie vs. the movie.
In the documentary, It IS NOT Lefty that presents Pistone with the diamonds. Its an earlier crew he was with. Lefty didn't come along until after Pistone had been under for awhile with "a different" "low time" mob family.
I love that word, FUGAIZI !!! you learn something new everyday! You have to read the book, Tru. It was Jilly Greca's Brooklyn crew that you're referring to. And no one "presented" Donnie with the diamonds to fence. What happened was, Donnie didn't like the guy who stole it (from a home invasion if I remember correctly). Anyway, the guy was showing it off at the club and Donnie was able to detect a flaw of some kind (Pistone took jewelry classes during his FBI training), and Donnie took great pleasure in telling him it was a fake. The guy had it checked out, and it turned out that Donnie was right.
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Re: Donnie Brasco appreciation thread
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Joe Pistone was on one of our local radio shows about a month ago. He told the following hilarious story. I forget where he was at, but he was doing some undercover work again (obviously using a different alias), after the entire Donnie Brasco thing was over. I believe that this even happened within the past five years. Anyway, he was meeting with some low-level wiseguy and Pistone was trying to win his trust. The wiseguy was a bit unsure, saying that he wanted to trust Pistone, but also wondered "how do I know you're not like that Donnie Brasco? You know, an undercover fed."
Pistone said it was all he could do not to laugh at how incredibly stupid this guy was, particularly since the wiseguy did make the decision to trust Pistone.
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Re: Donnie Brasco appreciation thread
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Joe Pistone was on one of our local radio shows about a month ago. He told the following hilarious story. I forget where he was at, but he was doing some undercover work again (obviously using a different alias), after the entire Donnie Brasco thing was over. I believe that this even happened within the past five years. Anyway, he was meeting with some low-level wiseguy and Pistone was trying to win his trust. The wiseguy was a bit unsure, saying that he wanted to trust Pistone, but also wondered "how do I know you're not like that Donnie Brasco? You know, an undercover fed."
Pistone said it was all he could do not to laugh at how incredibly stupid this guy was, particularly since the wiseguy did make the decision to trust Pistone. Right on Goombah, so Pistone is still doing undercover wiseguy work, huh? Right On! I'd like to hear more when you get a chance. Pretty funny the guy mentions brasco and doesn't even realize he's talking to the guy ;-)
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Re: Donnie Brasco appreciation thread
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lefty died in jail not by being whacked. sonny black was whacked and had his hands chopped off for allowing donnie to be brought in. at one point they were going to make donnie. Not quite...Lefty was released b4 his death. kudos for the answer. i think he died of cancer.
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lefty died in jail not by being whacked. sonny black was whacked and had his hands chopped off for allowing donnie to be brought in. at one point they were going to make donnie. Not quite...Lefty was released b4 his death. kudos for the answer. i think he died of cancer. Correct.
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Lefty personified the old school Code of Honor more than most Mob guys. When the news about Pistone broke, he refused to rat on anybody,and caught a 20 yr sentence. He served about 13 and due to his health,he was released. Originally he was on the "Hit List",but since he kept his mouth shut,he got a pass.He only lived about another 2 years after getting out,but even to the end he refused to talk about his Mob associates. He even turned down a huge amount of money,(some say up to 1,000,000 ) to do a promo interview for the movie. Reportedly,on his deathbed,he threatened to spit in the faces of the producers if they brought it up. He could have taken the money,wrote a book like Pistone,and retired comfortably....But maybe the most important reason that he didn't snitch was that his family would have to live with the shame of his betrayal, and would've lost their honor. I believe that, regardless of the sentence that he could have gotten, he would have done every second and never give the Feds the satisfaction of flipping him.
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I saw the extended cut of the film and liked it. Lefty and Donnie are feeding the Lion tons of hamburgers through the window of Lefty's car. I also noticed that one of the members of Sonny reds crew is Tony Lip who played Carmine Senior on the Sopranos. Wonder how they got the lion from the airport to the burger place.
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