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"The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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CS! reports... Paramount will have first crack at screen rights to a new installment of Mario Puzo's The Godfather franchise that is in the planning stages at Random House, reports Variety. "We hope Paramount or some other studio will want to buy the movie rights, and it is our intention to see that happen," Random House Trade Group vice president-senior editor Jonathan Karp told the trade. He was Puzo's editor when the author died, and Karp has spent the last several months tying down a rights deal with Puzo's estate to draft another writer to continue the Corleone saga. Karp said that it was too early to know who would write the book, and a choice won't be made until a final selection of story outlines are accumulated Nov. 4. Karp added that the original was a classic, and the idea is not to compete with it, but rather to continue the story in an entertaining and artful way that will make his readers very happy.
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Thanks Movie Fans, Turi posted this topic as well in the GF section. I am sure we all hope this comes about. If you hear any more info, please let us know. TIS
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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Godfather' resurrectedKarp looks to extend Puzo's Corleone legacy Paramount will have first crack at screen rights to a new installment of Mario Puzo's "The Godfather" franchise that is in the planning stages at Random House. Whether the studio considers that an offer it cannot refuse remains to be seen. "We hope Paramount or some other studio will want to buy the movie rights, and it is our intention to see that happen," said Random House Trade Group vice president-senior editor Jonathan Karp. He was Puzo's editor when the author died, and Karp has spent the last several months tying down a rights deal with Puzo's estate to draft another writer to continue the Corleone saga. Puzo's estate controlled the literary rights to the characters created by the author. Word of the book plans began leaking late last week when Karp emailed select lit agents canvassing for a top author to concoct a new tale. The information was published in the New Yorker. It is potentially the largest sequel deal made for a work of a deceased author since "Scarlett," the "Gone With the Wind" line extension that fetched $5 million. Karp would not comment on the deal Random House made with the Puzo estate, but acknowledged it was substantial. He was also braced for the inevitable skepticism on revisiting a book that was critically acclaimed and sold 22 million copies. "These characters just keep pulling you back in," Karp said. "There is enormous continuing interest in the Corleone family, and a great opportunity to tell a story that could take place before, during or after the original book. Mario once told me he wished he had done more with Sonny Corleone's character, and there was certainly more opportunity to explore the singer Johnny Fontaine. And Michael Corleone did make an appearance at the beginning and end of 'The Sicilian,' because he had a relationship with the freedom fighter." Karp said that it was too early to know who would write the book, and a choice won't be made until a final selection of story outlines are accumulated Nov. 4. He is aiming high, noting that even though a deal for Pat Conroy to scribble the "Gone With the Wind" sequel fell apart, Conroy had the pedigree of the writer he was hoping to hire. "We're looking for a connected author, in the best sense of the word." Karp says the original was a classic, and the idea is not to compete with it, but rather to continue the story in an entertaining and artful way that will make his readers very happy." [Source unknown]
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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No one thinks this is BIG NEWS?!?!?!?!
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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Geoff, I do! I'm ecstatic! Please follow-up with us I am very interested. I am at work and can't check in as often, but I keep looking for others reactions. But I'm with you my "Don", (kiss-up ) "happy as a pig in shit." I want more info tho, but mostly I want confirmation that this is true. Is it????? I need to know if I can really get excited??? TIS
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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I think this is big news, but I am still wondering what it will be... will it be a sequel novel? or a novel based on what happened in the sequel movies (we all know there are some drastic differences between trilogy and novel)? I still think that there must not come another movie. it would be only be true Godfather like with well casted people, and that means: no DeNiro, no Pacino and no Keaton etc. for they are too old to play their characters. Vincent is probably the only one who could return. and a GF movie without Pacino etc. isn't gonna work, at least not contribute to the movie saga... What I thought would be a nice alternative, is to have the GF4 story packed in some "new media" kinda thing. GF4 wouldn't be a screenplay, a movie, an opera or a novel (well, if they write the book, yes of course), but an interactive website. you can "live" the GF4 story on that site with some great original graphics and Godfather music etcetera, and off course new characters can be shown in pictures or something.. No, it wouldn't have the great acting or the great quotes, but that's what made the films so great, and like I said, another movie is very unlikely to work properly, as seen with GF3, which just can't compete with the other two. I still want to know what that new book-thing we read about is going to be about? I guess we all do
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Why bother with a book ? Just hire FFC to write another screenplay
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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Originally posted by plawrence: Why bother with a book ? Just hire FFC to write another screenplay There you go.... 'Cause everyone would want to see the movie, since the movie SHOULD deal with the missing years!
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If there is to be sequel it better be good. So that means no Leonardo DiCaprio as young Sonny, because he's a crap actor!
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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i have mixed feelings -- i'm quite thrilled and excited, but at the same time ... maybe, just let it end with Godfather 3? you see, i'm a big Star Wars fan, and i always look forward to every episode with great interest. a lot of people hated Episode 1 with little Anakin Skywalker (but precisely -- George Lucas said that he wanted/had to show what a nice and good boy Anakin was, to show the great leap and difference from good to evil. it was to emphasize that point!), but i remain loyal to Star Wars, good or ugly. with Godfather, i will always remain loyal (Star Wars and Godfather are my two all-time favorites). that, i can be sure of! however, i'm afraid that we might experience another prequel failure, where people's expectations (justly or not) are not met, and thus, the movie's status suffers. i'm thrilled and excited about this, but i'm also afraid for my Godfather. maybe, they should just let it go at Godfather 3? i say this with a weeping heart.
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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Although I believe the trilogy films have been sliding downhill, I would expect GF4 to be much better than GF3 - assuming they do it in the GF2 style of mixed flashback/present.
I would hope they spend at least 2/3 of the time on the "missing years" of 20s/30s - as Puzo probably already wrote the screenplay for this part - Puzo said (DVD Bonus) he gave it to Paramount and DeNiro. I would find the 20/30s history with DeNiro and a Sonny character (not DeCaprio!!) more interesting than some new material revolving around Andy Garcia and perhaps sissy Anthony returning to the family after his sister is killed ala young Michael after the hit on Vito.
The only required actors are DeNiro and Andy Garcia.
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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This is from E!Online:
Turning the novel into a movie would be a major task, but rumors of a Godfather IV have been gestating for years. In 1999, shortly before Puzo's death, Paramount was in feeling-out talks with Puzo, original director-cowriter Francis Ford Coppola (news), Godfather III star Andy Garcia (news) and, yes, Leonardo DiCaprio (news) about a fourth installment. Those plans were scuttled, however, once Puzo passed away.
But Karp says it was always Puzo's wish to return to the family that made him rich and famous (and earned him a Best Adapted Screenplay Oscar in for the original, which he shared with Coppola).
"I talked to Mario about it a few times, and he wanted to do more with the Sonny Corleone character in some way, and Michael Corleone did make an appearance at the beginning and end of The Sicilian, and I wanted to do more with the Johnny Fontaine character," says Karp. "He was open to the idea of doing more with the Corleones."
No word from Coppola, Garcia or DiCaprio on their future Godfather plans, if any.
As for skeptics who say Random House is exploiting Puzo's novel to make a quick buck, Karp says the publisher would rather sleep with the fishes than make mincemeat out of the Corleone clan.
"Obviously these characters have a mythic hold on the public, and we take this challenge very seriously," says Karp. "We're going to pick a writer who will take the Corleone family on an entertaining and compelling journey."
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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Pleaaasee! No Andy Garcia, That would really be a "minus" to me. I don't mind Garcia or his acting, however, he is soooo wrong for the part. I have seen him on some "Spanish/Mexican" stations here in California speaking for "hispanic" causes, presenting Latin awards, etc., which is all fine.... and probably has something to do with I DON'T think of him as Italian at all, and to try to convince me of that on film, after hearing him speak so proudly of his own heritage is impossible. I sure hope they don't blow it and put him in it. IMHO!! TIS
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Italian Stallionette: [QB]Pleaaasee! No Andy Garcia, I tought he made it worth watching the movie, besides it would be logical if the new part would be going abaut the Vincent regime. ´´Don´t overestimate the power of forgiveness`` Michael Corleond Part III
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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This IS big news, like my fellow BB member Oblong, has just said tho, a film would be a long way off. It's a bit worrying what they'd do with it. Maybe it would end up as a stand alone film about a brand 'new' Corleone family (actor wise that is). I suppose it would have to be stand alone anyway seeing as how the 3 films were the trilogy, it could be judged on it's own merits! I agree with my friend TIS, if, it was a continuation of the story and Andy Garcia was resurrected as Vincent Mancini...well Heres hoping anyways FH
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I guess you might object to these too: * Marlon Brando playing Vito? Brando is of Irish descent. And regarding political activism, remember when Brando sent a Native American to refuse his Godfather Oscar? What about Brando's anti-semetic statements, for which he later apologized? * Al Pacino playing Scarface? (where Robert Loggio is Lopez, Murray Abraham is Omar Suarez) or in Carlito's Way? Does that Pacino is not hispanic take away from these films? * DeNiro playing Young Vito? DeNiro is Irish-Italian - more Irish than Italian. What about Charlton Heston playing Moses? Heston is not Jewish. Or just about any western in which someone played an Indian or Mexican (i.e. Eli Wallach - Don Altobello in GF3 - playing Ugly Mexican Tuco in "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly").
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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Don's Advisor, With all due respect, let me try to explain my thinking ok? I don't object to the other actors' roles you mentioned. With the exception of Pacino and DeNiro,( DeNiro, who I thought was ALL Italian til recently) I had no idea of what heritage the other people were, and I suppose that's exactly why all those you mentioned fit in their role, they were believeable in their parts. Like I said, I don't think AG is a bad actor, and don't dislike him. I just don't think he fits in with the "Corleone" family no more than Pacino would fit in a remake of say, "The Quiet Man", (an old John Wayne movie based around life in Ireland.) For that matter neither would DeNiro, and he IS mostly Irish. Neither would look the part, yet both are remarkable actors. Granted, being Italian myself, I do enjoy having a couple good Italian actors into the mix when a movie is made about "Italian Mafia". I guess I am kind of biased in that respect. But it does seem logical as well As far as Pacino in Scarface, yea, he isn't Cuban, but in my eyes, he is the definite exception, because he played the role to perfection as most people here I think will attest to. He was totally believeable. (however, perhaps those who are Cuban feel differently) Anyway, no need to worry, cause I know the bigwigs won't be contacting me for any advice, and if another GF is made, AG may very well take the lead, I don't know!!! One thing is for sure tho, I definitely will see it, no matter who is in it. Take Care TIS
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Originally posted by Dr Jules Segal: I say any Hollywood pezzonvante that dares cast Leonardo DiCaprio as Santino Corleone is going to end up with a horse's head in his bed. Yeah, some "Hollywood finocchio" in The Godfather?! :rolleyes: JG
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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I'm hearing alot about the story focusing on Vincent and a young Santino. I'm sorry, but I would not be fascinated with that at all. Instead, I dont mind them focusing on Vincent, but I think its a must that DeNiro be brought back to reprise as Vito. I wanna see what happens between his younger days in Part II and the beginning of the end in the Godfather. Other than DeNiro and Garcia, I would prefer to see unknowns fill the rest of the major roles. (except for Pacino if he is somehow reprising as Michael in his later years).
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I'm with you Robert DeNiro! I've always wanted them to go back to the "missing years" as opposed to ahead. And couldn't DeNiro still play Vito at middle age? And Oblong, I didn't see DiCaprio's movie Gangs of New York yet, however I saw previews twice, and from what I could detect, I still think he could pull off the part of "Sonny." However, I know my friends here disagree strongly. :p However, reading the articles that have been posted, it sounds as tho that Garcia is really interested and reference has been made to continue Vincent's story with flasbacks with DiCaprio as young Sonny, much like GF II. We will have to wait to see first if this ever comes about I guess. TIS
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Deathkiss, I think Anthony entering and rising up the "crime" ladder would be perfect as well, turning bitter and angry perhaps, since his sister's murder and father's death, etc. Btw, who did play Anthony? I don't think I knew him and is he still around? TIS
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Snake Eyes, if that was the case GF4 would be a repetition of GF1 (the innocent son become like his terrifying father etc.)
like that they can go on making a Godfather movie on and on and on, GF5, GF6, in 2078 a GF31 will be there.
and quite frankly, I think they should end it sooner or later...
Now I've become a big fan the last couple of years, but never really went to a brand new GF film, so I dig the idea of a GF4 if well done (but I think it will destroy the saga anyway). After that, they should REALLY end it.
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Originally posted by DonsAdvisor: [QB I guess you might object to these too:
* Marlon Brando playing Vito? Brando is of Irish descent. And regarding political activism, remember when Brando sent a Native American to refuse his Godfather Oscar? What about Brando's anti-semetic statements, for which he later apologized?
* Al Pacino playing Scarface? (where Robert Loggio is Lopez, Murray Abraham is Omar Suarez) or in Carlito's Way? Does that Pacino is not hispanic take away from these films?
* DeNiro playing Young Vito? DeNiro is Irish-Italian - more Irish than Italian.
What about Charlton Heston playing Moses? Heston is not Jewish. Or just about any western in which someone played an Indian or Mexican (i.e. Eli Wallach - Don Altobello in GF3 - playing Ugly Mexican Tuco in "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly").[/QB] i agree with Don's Advisor -- it doesn't matter what the nationality or heritage is, whether Italian, Irish, German, etc. what matters, at the end of the day, is talent. now, Andy Garcia's talent (or the lack of it) in portraying a Corleone, is another matter.
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TIS, don papa
Your points are well taken. If a character is typecast too much, whether it be playing an ethnic role, villain, tough guy etc. they are less believable for future roles. Hence, I must admit that if Andy Garcia gets stereotyped as a latino actor, it would be tough for him to play other roles. Likewise, its probably tough for DeNiro to play any ethic role that is non-Italian. But so what?
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Originally posted by The Italian Stallionette: Btw, who did play Anthony? I don't think I knew him and is he still around? TIS[/QB] TIS, Anthony was played by Franc D'Ambrosio who I believe is a professional singer and returned to the operatic scene after GFIII
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This has to be done VERY carefully. I don't want to see a cynical cash in.
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Originally posted by Oblong: De Niro is older than Brando was in part I.
I'll wait and see how DiCaprio does in Scorsese's new movie before deciding on whether he'd be a good fit for any potential GF movie. You know, i don't think it would work with Robert De Niro. He's almost 60, Brando was 47, and you want De Nrio to play Vito from the missing years (1927-1945)? Maybe 10-12 years ago it would have worked. I think he's too old to play Vito from the missing years. Maybe they need to find another actor. As for the young Sonny, they should keep their options opened. I'm sure there are thousands of actors out there who would love to audition for that role, or any role. Anyway, i hope it'll come out alright.
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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Wow, it's been awhile since i've been on here, but here i am! =) Anyway, i just now heard about the possibilities of a GFIV. I have mixed feelings about this, but in all i'm just hoping for the best. Although, i wish they would make "The Sicilian" into a movie instead - the idea's of a GFIV are endless. No matter how old he is, De Niro should be in GFIV. Considering that nowadays you can make anything possible in Hollywood. And it just wouldn't be the same without some of the original cast from the past GF films. Pacino somehow should be in it as well, i don't know what it would do for his part, but there somehow has to be a connection with the past GF films. Andy Garcia should be in GFIV as well, because he's the recent Don Corleone, isn't he? As for Leonardo DiCaprio playing Sonny (or maybe some other character), i don't know. He's a good actor and all, but i don't see him as a Corleone. So here's my thing for DiCaprio in GFIV: "Hell no!" (you can quote me on that). I'd rather have someone else. In fact, i think they should get a group of unknown talented actors to play the characters in whatever they plan on doing with GFIV. For example, Marco Leonardi. I just recently saw him in some films (Like what for Chocolate, The Five Senses, Cinema Paradiso) and he's great, but not enough credit. If there's so much speculation about who will write the script/screenplay/novel about the supposed GFIV, why not get Carol Gino? She knew Mario Puzo and is his companion throughout. She could probably write it good, if not then okay. It's unpredictable if FFC will be connected to GFIV, but i would like it if he did it.
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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Originally posted by Mardini: [quote]Originally posted by Oblong: [b]De Niro is older than Brando was in part I.
I'll wait and see how DiCaprio does in Scorsese's new movie before deciding on whether he'd be a good fit for any potential GF movie. You know, i don't think it would work with Robert De Niro. He's almost 60, Brando was 47, and you want De Nrio to play Vito from the missing years (1927-1945)? Maybe 10-12 years ago it would have worked. I think he's too old to play Vito from the missing years. Maybe they need to find another actor. As for the young Sonny, they should keep their options opened. I'm sure there are thousands of actors out there who would love to audition for that role, or any role. Anyway, i hope it'll come out alright.[/b][/quote]As for the younger Sonny, what about James Caans kids? Does he have any sons that look like him?
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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I rarely read Part IV discussion, because I don't want to know anything about the plot before it comes out (Im the same way w/ Star Wars movies), but when I saw this, I had to post. Although it is true that a bad fourth film will bring down the trilogy, I must disagree with JGeoff, with all due respect (hand kiss), if FFC makes an attempt to make up for Part III (although, I don't look down on it as much as others do) and it covers either Vito building the original Corleone empire, how Vincent ran the family, or the years between II and III, or a mix of 2 or all 3 of these topics, then it could potentially rival I and II.
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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I feel that they should leave it as a trilogy. A classic 1-2-3. Also the actors r older now it just won't be the same. Al though James Caan has a son in Gone in 60 seconds that to me looks like him.If they do a GFIV the best of luck to them..
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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11/07/02 11:02 PM
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I found this interview with James Caan, dated April 99 saying there would not be another GF, but if there were a IV, guess who'd he want to play Sonny? Thought you might be interested, or perhaps you've already seen it.! http://www.apbnews.com/media/reviews/movies/1999/08/16/mickeyside0816_01.html TIS
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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11/09/02 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by DJGodfather: Here is my opinion on the matter,
They should leave it as a trilogy. It is the best organized crime movies out there, so why ruin it with a IV? Also Puzo wouldnt of written it, so it is unfiar to him, if they want, why dont they just make a completly different movie.
DJ Yeah, but i thought Mario Puzo always wanted to write GF4. He once said in an interview that he wished he had power in Hollywood to make GF4. He definitely wanted to focus more on young Santino and the rise of the Corleones.
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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Originally posted by The Italian Stallionette: I'm with you Robert DeNiro! I've always wanted them to go back to the "missing years" as opposed to ahead. And couldn't DeNiro still play Vito at middle age? TIS is absolutely right in saying that, but I have a few opinions to say: I'm excited. I would love to see a Godfather IV but...enough already? They made to classics then made an aweful one. Couldn't they leave it at that? See that they've accomplished 2 of the finest films in motion picture history, then they decide to make a new one - yes, it could work, but they would have to make it better than III, and they would have to have DeNiro as Vito Corleone. Whatever happens, I sure as hell will pay my tickets to see Part IV, but it's still worrisome that the Corleone legacy could be ruined... -Penguin
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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Originally posted by Anton The Penguin: I'm excited. I would love to see a Godfather IV but...enough already? They made to classics then made an aweful one. Couldn't they leave it at that? See that they've accomplished 2 of the finest films in motion picture history, then they decide to make a new one - yes, it could work, but they would have to make it better than III, and they would have to have DeNiro as Vito Corleone. Whatever happens, I sure as hell will pay my tickets to see Part IV, but it's still worrisome that the Corleone legacy could be ruined...
-Penguin Sadly, these movie studios don't have that same analysis of thinking. The way the see it, a new movie with the legendary Godfather label attached to it would be a huge money-maker. And they're absolutely right. Even if their is noone from the original working on it and even if it is a medicore film, many of us hardcore fans will be the first waiting in line.
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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I agree that if GFIV does come into development that the story should definitely revolve around the character of Sonny. I have always been fascinated by Sonny and feel his influence on the Corleone family was undermined in the previous movies, but hinted at by the fact that they made his illigitimate son the new Godfater in GFIII. However, we must remember that if they do a story about him, they will have to reflect up until he died which means it will come across the same time as the first movie. When that happens they will have to use different characters to play michael, fredo, vito, etc. and I dont know how well any of us will be able to take that.
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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I just thought of this........... IF they were to do a story on Vincent, who the hell would be the rival family that they fight against??????????
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Re: "The Godfather IV" in Development !!!
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12/10/02 10:10 PM
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Why do many of you have something against DiCaprio? Believe it or not, HE CAN ACT! Even in serious films! Just because he hasn't done this particular type of film before doesnt leave him any less credible than anyone else. Don't look down upon him because of his involvement in so many 'chic flics' as he might surprise all of you in a GF4...
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