If you turn on the commentary on GF Pt 3 and listen to him while the credits are rolling he tells what it would have been about.

Hey Grunch. We finally meet. From a brass casket, eh? Sally Tessio?

I don't own the DVDs. But i've read the GF Legacy and GF Companion and seen the GF3 A look back. Which is the GF3 commentary.

Does it involve Maranzano, Masseria, Sonny, and Vito in the 30's? And Vincent, Connie, and neri in the 80's?

Off the top of my head the only thing i remember him saying is that it would be more similar to Part II. he said it would it feature the rise of the corleone family as one story (in which he said Sonny would be the main character) and a story about an older Vincent running the family

The Corleones, lead by Vincent off course, would get into the cocaine business and move alot of its interests down to South America in Colombia...

gee another thing to look for....just when you thought you have seen and heard it all ...

HAHAHA, give em a break, newbies

As we've heard in "ANOTHER MOVIE" Pacino hates FILTHY Colombians

What is Garcia, cuban, Colombian,?

This is for Ricardo, Apple and anyone else who does not have the DVD trilogy. Buy it, it is the greatest investmane you can make! Anyway, here is my transcript of what FFC says at the end of GF3.

"Mario and I thought, that as we discussed a possible forth film, that the forth film would be much more like the second film, in that it would be told in two time periods, that one time period would be the period in New York, sort of picking up from Godfather two and taking you into the time period of Godfather one. You would see the Corleone family in it's rise to power, and the main character would be Sonny Corleone, and he would be juxtaposed, very much in the way the second godfather was with a modern story, in which the main character would be Vincent Mancini, sonny's son. And his story would be Vincent, of course, in a modern period after this action (GF3), in which he had really become the head of the Corleone Family, but it had gone into a realm of cocaine and a dangerous relationship, with this tremendous drug trade, but there would be two storys of what Mario called the happy years, which was the story of the Corleone faminly coming into power and would be Don Corleone as played by Marlon Brando reaching his Zentih tAnd at the same time the story of the rise, the story of the fall of the family in a modern context, almost in a story starring Vincent Mancini, with the haunting he had, of this love that he lost, and his ultimate hunting down, almost like a pabloesque (SP) bar on the landscape of Columbia, in which they are hunting down this last gangsta mogul. And there would be one more scene with Vincent and the old Michael Corleone, which ironically had happened really earlier than his death scene at the end. So it would be a movie sort of like GF2, that would interpose the rise of the family before WW2 and the destruction of the family and the person of Vincent Mancini, but ultimately, we never really laid out the script, although there are parts of the old section, the period before WW2, but the new section was never worked on. And Mario Puzo unfortunately died, before any oppurtunity was made to have him work on the script with me."

THANK YOU!!!

I've heard bits and pieces of this elsewhere.

The Father Vito Rise-Son Michael Fall story is imitated in the Father Sonny Rise-Son Vincent story!

I think Vito would STILL be the main character though, but Sonny would DEFINITELY be a Best Supporting Actor role! After all, Sonny was only 15 during the Castellamare War with Maranzello and Masseria!

To tell the truth, I KNOW Puzo respected FFC, but from his comments about how the Director has final say even if the writer disapproves, i don't think Puzo really liked FFC writing the scripts, I think he preferred Francis the Director, and NOT Francis the Writer!

After all, Puzo writes The Godfather Novel, FFC cuts 1/3 of it, and change sbits here and there, CUTS one of Puzos' Favorite scenes (Fabri's Death). Puzo's Novel also contains the early part of Gf2, and a scene from after the Baptism but before the Communion that sets up things to come. I believe that Puzo came up with the Roth sets up Clemenza, Clemenza and Cicci testify, BUT brother Domenick Clemenza (From The Sicilian) appears in court to discourage Peter from ratting. Rather than Mike having Clemenza whacked, Clemenza does the honorable thing and slits his wrists. Kay leaves Mike. Thats' the PERFECT Sequel and END to a Great Series! BUT Castellano won't come back, Peter's role becomes Frank Pentangelli, Domenick becomes Vincenzo Pentangelli. Kay STILL leaves, and Anthony stays with Mike (Just in case Puzo is ever bothered about Mike's son and GF3 twenty years down the road!) Puzo originaly had the 30's after the 20's as well, there was no Ciccio, so no reason for the movie to end with him killing Ciccio. FFC says "We can't do the 30's to expensive, too long!") Puzo changes Antonio Andolini killing Ciccio to Ciccio killing Antonio Andolini, thus the movie can end with Vito killing Cicico rather than the Castellamre War, Irish War, etc.

Puzo based the Five families hits on teh REAL LIFe factas. In the 1950's TWO NY DOns were murdered, Albert Anastasia, and his predecessor Mangano. SO Puzo writes that Barzini and Tattaglia die. He probably plans on having Stracci, Bocchicchio, Cuneo in GF2. Why else would Cuneo's son pop up in GF3. Puzo was dismayed and never wrote in another Five families in GF2. Only Pentangelli, and The Rosatos. At least when they hit Cuneo, it was ina barber shop (The Anastasia Hit). The Five familes Commission didn't DIE in the 50's, FFC's next attempt at wiping out the WHOEL Commission (Helicipter GF3) Didn't go down well either! Puzo had written a LITTLe about Batista and Neri staying at the Family hotel in Cuba to establish the Havan stroyline for GF2!

Moe Greene was based on Bugsy Siegel who died in 1947. Carlo, Fabrizzio, and Tessio died becasue that was the fitting way to end the story. Puzo is angered that FFC didn't let him kill off Fabri in GF1, and writes the same scene into the second movie. FFC changes it to death by carbomb, then CUTS it.

So after 10 years away from GF2. After releasing Fols Die, and The Sicilian...Mario gets to writing a GF3! He remembers leaving Anthoyn with Mike, and sets it up with Mike being killed by a mailbomb from a Rival Family (Barzini's Son), and there is a suspected Family traitor. Anthony, and Santino Junior, are in The Family. Anthony falls in love with a Newsreported (Grace Hamilton) who secretly works for the CIA, they get Anthony to hit Barzini's Son (a MAJOR Druglord) to avenge Mike. Anthony doesn't go through with the hit. CIA try to kill Anthony but Tom dies instead! We later find out that Santino Junior is The Family traitor and set up the amilbomb with Barzini Junior. When Anthony finds out he murders Santino. (Echoing Mike being good until he is forced to kill to avnge his Father!) Thats' how Puzo ends the Trilogy.

Later on, Paramount decides to go through with this movie. Puzo adds on, Willy Cicci is whacked by Leo Cuneo to avenge HIS Father, Cuneo earns Mike's respect, Rosato's are whacked by Santino to help out Cuneo. Victor Rizzi is in Attica and vows to avenge the killing of his father. It turns out he ordered the hit with Santino on Mike.

Puzo writes an alternate script just in case. Connie knows about Fredo, she confronts Neri, Neri confesses to helping Fredo, Roth, Rocco, Ola Hit Mike in 1958. Connie blackmails him into poisoning hi scofee, after Mike dies, Neri is whacked by Victor. Connie gave the order! Anthony finds out and whacks Victor. He flees to Cuba to hide from Santino, meets Grace, she get shim inyo the CIA, they Hit Santino. Tom and Anthony "live" ahppily ever after. But there's still COnnie to worry about......

FFC says "We need Mike as a main character". Puzo changes it so Anthony is killed instead of Mike. (The death of a son which led to Mary's death). FFC: We need Anthony as another character.

Duvall can't come back so Puzo makes Tom get killed. Spinell dies, the Cicci/Cuneo line is gone. FFC doesn't think Tony Lucatorto (Santino Junior) is good enough actor to hold such an important role. FFC changes Santino Junior to Vincent Mancini. Puzo thinks Fans will feel ripped off after he explained how Lucy COULDn'T get pregnant, but Paramount backs the Mancini decision. Puzo writes out Sonny's other children, and write sin Lucy Mancini and Jules Segal.

FFC says NO Jules, and Lucy need s abit part only. Puzo writes tehm out. FFC says "No Tom, we need a Consigliere". Puzo writes in the "CLose Family member" Dom Abbandando (even though Gencio had TWO DAUGHTERS), and legal man B.J. Harrison. FFC writes them down, and emphasizes the daughter, Mary. Changes CIA to Vatican. Puzo writes in VIncenzo Pentangelli to kill Mike. he is replaced with Mosca. Mary is UPPED bigtime to fall in love with Vincent. Grace is written down, and saved for a future sequel. FFC says " NO more Sequels!" Puzo writes out Grace, bu tFFC writes Grace back in. Puzo writes Opera scene, and rest of movie. Mike is killed at the Opera in front of his family (Dom, Kay, Anthony, Mary, Dom, Andrew, B.J., Neri, Vincent, etc.). NO FFC thinks Mike deserve worse, and amkes Mary die!. Mike dies some years later in Sicily, during the funeral procession Connie confronts Neri about Fredo and the Hitmen. We find out Conni eblackmailed Neri into poisoning Mike! FFC writes the funeral out for length reasons. Then they need filler. Puzo writes in Family traitor Don Altobello, and Joe Colombo charcter Joey Zasa.

The rest is History.

Puzo DID wrie another script, he just hasn't shown FFC ait yet!

Coppola's vinyard was featured on Good Morning America. His crops looked good and he selling a lot of the ole bubbly. Darn! that's not a good sign that he need to do GF IV!

It's always such a BLAST to be surfing around in different topics out of boredom (when fellow members seem to be sleeping late, or maybe working )...and suddenly seeing my Screen Name pop up out of nowhere!!

Anyway, thanks fore the recommendation injektilo, you're not the first to encourage purchase of DVD trilogy. However, without a DVD player I gather it's kind've useless, and with a pre-school aged child running around, my priority at this point is investing toward a camcorder!!

Apple

It's always such a BLAST to be surfing around in different topics out of boredom (when fellow members seem to be sleeping late, or maybe working )...and suddenly seeing my Screen Name pop up out of nowhere!!

Anyway, thanks fore the recommendation injektilo, you're not the first to encourage purchase of DVD trilogy. However, without a DVD player I gather it's kind've useless, and with a pre-school aged child running around, my priority at this point is investing toward a camcorder!!

Apple[/b][/quote]As soon as we get a DVD Player, the very FIRST thing getting rented is The Godfather Trilogy, followed by saving 65$ and BUYING The Trilogy!

OK then. Lets start a Ricardo and Apple DVD player fund. We will all pass around the hat, then failing that, organise a charity benefit concert, with the aim of raising the money for them.

Surely no one should be without the DVD box set!

Think if all 1060 members put in $1 each, we would have change!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get it asap guys! It rocks!

I am truly touched.

But please...give the DVD to Ricardo, I'm sure he'd get MUCH more use out of it than I would.


Apple

Ys, I agree, it would hav ebeen a Nuice Mother's Day Gift tho.

I'll but the Set i just need someone to buy the DVD Player

I'd be content with the Video Trilogy but its out-of-Print!

I'll have to settle for taping teh Saga next time its on. it has MORE Scenes anyway.

A GOOD Editor could even repleace the Edited scenes with ther UnCut scenes. I'd get to see Moe Greene's bloody eye AND the other great TV scenes. I'd dub Geary's F*ing Family over Filthy Family.

The Only edited movie i dever contemplat ebuyng is Goosdfellas, BEst EDITINg EVER! You can't even tell they;re reall syaing f This, F That!

I for one, truly hope there is not another Godfather film made following the death of author, Mario Puzo. I feel this chapter of wishing for a fourth film should now be over.

I think FFC is a better screen adapter than attempting to tell an orginal story. Lets face it, All of his big screen successes are stories that he adapted from novels, ( Patton, Hearts of Darkness, Godfather, and Rainmaker). Puzo should have written the continuation in a novel, and FFC would adapted it into a movie.

I don't think there will ever be a Godfather IV....Why should there be...FFC is too busy now with his winery...I think it would never match the first two films