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Re: Dream Cast of GF4 #206320
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that's what i said, the story is not fiction. the book is a historical fact with some liberties taken. the sicilians do not give a damn about the books, where the youth do not know much about giuliano the adults choose not to speak about it. he is a hero (giuliano) in some circles but really nothing more than who is a martyr for civil rights. like robin hood.


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Re: Dream Cast of GF4 #206321
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Quote:
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that's what i said, the story is not fiction. the book is a historical fact with some liberties taken. the sicilians do not give a damn about the books, where the youth do not know much about giuliano the adults choose not to speak about it. he is a hero (giuliano) in some circles but really nothing more than who is a martyr for civil rights. like robin hood.
What happened to Guilianos' REAL son/ aughter, an dwife Justina/Giovanna or whatever it was in the Movie.

How big is The Godfather in Italy/Sicily? Russia? Japan? Chinka? (that's an uncalled for misspelling!)

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It's funny that you ask, I was just speaking to a russian friend of mine today about the GF movies. She sais that it was quite popular there and that it had been translated into russian. As for Italy/Sicily, they all know of it but it has not reached the cult following that it has elsewhere. The Italians/Sicilians have a different view on life, cultural exchange is not a strong suit, and they do not believe in putting more than one type of meat on a sanguich! As for Japan and China, I have no idea, but in France and Germany, it is also quite popular, also in Cuba, as well as South America.


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Re: Dream Cast of GF4 #206323
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my favorite cast member have to be Angelina Jolie. It will be a good story line that Vincent falls for Angelina (playing a bad girl of course). He is so obsess in trying to get her he wants to steal her from her HUSBAND. He send out a contract to kill him (sort of a Richard III). Michael is doing to same thing with KAY.

the Flashback scenes will be the more violent part of the story.


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Re: Dream Cast of GF4 #206324
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Quote:
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my favorite cast member have to be Angelina Jolie. It will be a good story line that Vincent falls for Angelina (playing a bad girl of course). He is so obsess in trying to get her he wants to steal her from her HUSBAND. He send out a contract to kill him (sort of a Richard III). Michael is doing to same thing with KAY.

the Flashback scenes will be the more violent part of the story.
EXACTLY what Puzo wrot ein his script exceopt the girl is Grace Hamiltn and she seduces Anthony (Later Vincent), and gets both of them killed!

Re: Dream Cast of GF4 #206325
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Sonny-Ray Liota
Fredo-Michael Imperioli
Vito-Robert Deniro
Tessio-Frank Vincent


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Re: Dream Cast of GF4 #206326
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Sonny-Ray Liota
Fredo-Michael Imperioli
Vito-Robert Deniro
Tessio-Frank Vincent
DeNiro as Vito is a MUST!

Vincent as Tessio is a GREAT idea i never thought of, he would be perfect!

Re: Dream Cast of GF4 #206327
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ok, how old is ray liotta, probably a lot older than a teenage sonny, and why would we need a young kay? Mikey's gonna be about fifteen probably in the flashback bits, he wouldn't have known kay, and the flashbacks would hardly even focus on him at all as he would have very little to do with the family business at that stage, he's still in school.


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Re: Dream Cast of GF4 #206328
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Adam Sandler does not look Italian at all.Too much of a big nose.

Re: Dream Cast of GF4 #206329
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Re: Dream Cast of GF4 #206330
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I don't know what anyone else wrote but for characters like Luca Brasi and such there should be Italian actors.


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Re: Dream Cast of GF4 #206331
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Vito (young) - Adam Sandler
Vito (old) - Dom DeLuise
Michael - Keanu Reeves
Fredo - Tom Green
Clemenza (old) - Tom Arnold
Santino - Ice Cube
Kay - Pamela Anderson
Connie - Britney Spears
Tessio (old) - Kevin Costner
Mama (young) - Mariah Carey
Mama (old) - Jennifer Lopez
Johnny Fontaine - Eminem
Tom Hagen - Ben Affleck
Luca Brasi - Steve Guttenburg
Sollozzo - Jackie Chan
Cap'n McCluckey - Macauly Culkin
Barzini - Brendon Fraser
Tattaglia - Barbara Streisand
Carlo - Ice - T

They would be POIFECT!

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Re: Dream Cast of GF4 #206332
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Fredo - Tom Green
Connie - Britney Spears

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I hope you're kidding on the britney spears comment.

But as for Tom Green playing fredo. that would be perfect. A fool, playing a fool.


Re: Dream Cast of GF4 #206333
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Hi Guys,

I'm new here but how does this hit you?

Part 4 is so inviting to me because I want ot see how Vito made the family business what it was in the first part, before it starts to crumble. Now one big role is that of Brasi. I think Crowe would be a great Brasi with Clooney and Lopez playing Vito and his wife. Before you scoff! Think about it; who better than the Gladiator himself to install fear into the hearts of mobsters. And Clooney can play the thinking criminal. Not forgetting the chemistry between he and Lopez.

What do you think?

Salut

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Re: Dream Cast of GF4 #206334
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Welcome, paisano.

Crowe does not have the menace to play Brasi, in my opinion. Clooney could certainly play a "thoughtful criminal", but not the Don! I certainly would not want either in GF4.

As for Lopez, well, I'm unsure, but her part would be small anyway so I could let it ride.


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Gavin. Gavin. What have I ever done to make you show me so much disrespect?

Crowe is a great actor who could, I believe, capture the menace of Brasi. It's Bud White with no redeeming features except loyalty to the Don. And Clooney could be good. He has the looks, charm and ability to do it. He just needs to lose that happy look he has. But he can do it though. I remember him in thew perfect storm where he was very serious and that worked well.

Does anyone think that they have the technology to say take Brando from one of his earlier films and use his image from there. It would be brilliant if they could.

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Padrino 2002 wrote:

"Does anyone think that they have the technology to say take Brando from one of his earlier films and use his image from there. It would be brilliant if they could."

What?! Are you kidding?!


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Re: Dream Cast of GF4 #206337
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DiCaprio is a *** , he couldn't play a Corleone.

Re: Dream Cast of GF4 #206338
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Hi,

My ideas on a cast would be:

Vito Corleone-Robert DeNiro.
Vincent Corleone-Andy Garcia?
Young Santino Corleone-Scott Caan.
Young Fredo Corleone-Jason Cerbone.

Paul


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Re: Dream Cast of GF4 #206339
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I can see Russell Crowe as Tom Hagen perhaps. Also, for what it's worth, I wouldn't eliminate Leonardi DiCaprio either (I know most disagree). I think he could play a young Sonny.

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Re: Dream Cast of GF4 #206340
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Why would DiCaprio be a "given" for Sonny? I'd prefer someone else...anyone else. (ROCKY)

My thoughts exactly.


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Re: Dream Cast of GF4 #206341
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What about Heather Langenkamp portraying Connie?


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Re: Dream Cast of GF4 #206342
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I haven't sat and thought about this, but here are a few names-

The bloke that plays Chris in the Sopranos (for those who dont watch it, its the kid who Tommy (Peschi) shoots in the foot and later kills in Goodfellas). He could play Sonny but would he be to different looks-wise to Caan?

Also liked the Giovanni Ribisi and Gandolfini suggestions.

The movie, as a prequel, would be difficult to write and shoot I think, mainly because of the interchanging periods in GF2 with De Niro moving to America and raising a family.

De Niro would have to figure in the film somehow.

The only child-actor who I actually know the name of is that Haley Osmond (whatever!) from Sixth Sense.

How about Jude Law? He is a versatile actor but I'm not sure about the accent!

Michael Madsen was a good shout too.

Johnny Depp, perhaps? Ray Liotta?


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Hi,
A few other actors that can be used are:

Joe Pesci.
David Proval.
Vincent Pastore.
Armand Assante.

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Re: Dream Cast of GF4 #206344
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The story-ideas for a GF4 almost all are about the ‘happy years’, the Corleone family in the nineteen twenties and thirties, during prohibition. But they also see a sort of GF2 movie with two time-periods. The thirties and the modern time, which can variate from the early eighties, when GF3 ended, or late ninetees, when Michael died, till present time. No one really seems interested in the modern-time story, which would include Don Vincenzo.

Off course, now Mario Puzo is dead, this story will be the most difficult to make up. Large parts of II and all of III were written by FFC and Mario Puzo together, so who must come up with what, for a new, part IV story? Because we can all sort of make up something what would’ve happen in the thirties. By the way, not only for present time there must be new characters, but for the 30’s story as well, otherwise, everyone (like the heads of the other families etc.) would live throughout GF4. There are too many characters (I mean, from three previous movies) who could be part in the thirties story; that’s undoable, since Sonny and Vito got to kill a few mobsters too.

Since we kinda like a parralel between Sonny and Vincent, similar to GF2, there must be a resembling storyline. And what’s to tell about Sonny? We know he gets shot in part one, just after he unofficially taken over control over the family. That’s in the late fourties! What power did he have in the thirties, besides being a hotheaded teenager? And I don’t think there should be a large part for Vito, since the Robert DeNiro from today is 30 years older then the DeNiro from GF2, while the ‘new’ Vito is only ten years older (or less), nor would it be possible (considering his non cameo-appearing in part II) to have Brando come back, as a Vito even younger then he played before.
And does this mean Vincent will be extinguished this way as well, or something? Who will follow him up, or will the Family finally be destroyed after Mancini?

The storyline for the Vincent-regime is just as interesting. It would be the only ‘new’ thing to the Godfather Saga. How about new characters? Or even old ones, because I can’t remember Kay, Connie, Andrew or Anthony dying? And what about the beautiful twins:) ? Even Al Pacino can comeback for just a short flash for a segment based somewhere between 1980 and 1997. Pacino these days looks younger then Michael at the end of GF3, so he’d be the only actor who must look older again.
If there should be an actor getting a part in a IV, it should be Nicolas Cage. Not only can he play a part in the old-time story, but also a new character, competing or collaborating with Vincent. Cage is Coppola’s nephew and co-producer of Part 3 (why didn’t he co-star back then?). His appearance would keep the ‘family’ spirit of the Godfather films, as it did in the other films (for part 3, Francis Ford Coppola used his entire family, it seems, in any form). Sofia Coppola can even write or direct or something, if Francis decides not to really be involved so much, and she can also star in “flashback-scenes” of Vincent thinking of her. In the same way old footage was fitted into part III, some scenes from earlier movies, like the shooting of Mary, can be in IV.

Further more, I think Jean Reno can be a young Luca Brasi. He has the same expression on his face, is slitely younger and thinner, and is European! No Italian though, I admit. Jeanne Tripplehorn is a good Sandra, I think, while Kevin Pollak should be Tessio or something. Altough Tessio in 1 was very tall, and Pollak is not. Benicio del Toro is a bit taller, and has a similar skin-colour als Abe Vigoda’s version of Tessio.
Paul Walker has about the same age as DiCaprio and Scott Caan, would they be Sonny. This leaves the door open for Walker to play a minor Tom Hagen part.
Some people referred to James Gandolfini or Joe Pesci: how about if they played the characters of Maranzello and all, the “new” characters fitted in the old-time storyline, who then can be killed or something. We know Tattaglia and Barzini won’t be! Brendan Fehr can be a young Hyman Roth, since he looks a bit like the young Hyman Roth from the GF2 deleted scenes.

Jennifer Lopez as a young Carmella is quite good, lookwise, but she is in real life much younger then Robert DeNiro: how would this look on screen. Same thing for Salma Hayek.

Also I think that, like the older movies, a lot of (not so famous) real Italian actors shall play a lot of parts, if there would ever be a Godfather Four. So all suggestions about Russell Crowe, my own Jean Reno, Kirsten Dunst, George Clooney, Jennifer Lopez, basically ever not-Italian actor mentioned (Scott Caan of course too), would have less a chance of getting in.

If there will be a GF4, it will probably be based largely upon the already existing scripts and ideas once made by Puzo and Coppola themselves, with the Vincent-era based around drug cartels and all.

Finally, to the “Ricardo” who wrote two acts for a possible GFIV script; you base your story untill 1933 around Vito. No bad idea, yet the common plan was to make a parralel between Santino and Vincent, which would be probably easier to be done movie-technical. So far, Sonny has a very small part in your script.

By the way, I do like to see the rest of it, Ricardo (?) I loved the fact it started (as it should), with a big family-festivity, as it also has a street-festivity with killings and several meetings with the heads of all families. Well done!

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Jackie Chan??? Nice casting, Anton. :p Why don't we just have everyone in the cast played by Mike Myers in make-up? As for J-Lo... Carmella's butt wasn't THAT big. Besides, Jennifer "Big Booty" Lopez and Selma-Selma Hayek can't act.

If only the fountian of youth truely exsisted. Then we could have our favorites back. *sniffle*


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[QB Besides, Jennifer "Big Booty" Lopez and Selma-Selma Hayek can't act.
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I have to respectfully disagree...Jennifer was excellent in her portrayal of Selena in the movie of the same name.

And Salma was entertaining in Fools Rush In (hey, the character fit her to a "T"....) and very believeable in From Dusk to Dawn.

Maybe they are just not getting the good parts...!


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[/QB][/QUOTE]I have to respectfully disagree...Jennifer was excellent in her portrayal of Selena in the movie of the same name.

And Salma was entertaining and very believeable in From Dusk to Dawn.

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I agree with you on that LDV!!


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according to Imdb.com, a Canadian actor called Bruce Ramsay played the part of Young Joseph Bonanno, aged 17-27, in the 1999 TV-movie "Bonanno: A Godfather's Story" He was born in 1968, so this means that he was 31 years old when playing a teenager.

Now I have to admit I have never seen that movie, so I don't know if he pulled it of. But if he did it leaves some options open to actors for playing the parts of young Sonny and young Hagen in the never-to-happen-Godfather 4.

Personally, FFC should have recruited young, relatively unknown (Italian) actors with satisfying, realistic ages to play the Corleone youngsters, and a GF4 shouldn't tell to much of the known characters in their younger years, but should introduce some new big shot bad guys, for whom age and looks don't matter. I'm thinking FFC could invite his family again, with Nicolas Kim Coppola leading the pact (a guy we know better as awardwinning Nicolas Cage).

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