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Re: GodFather 4 #206088
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I hope that they would not do it. I don't think the GF3 was needed.


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im not sure about having a gf4, if it was done right, id be all for it, but since Mario Puzo wouldnt be in on it, id have to say no...

but instead of gf4, how about having a prequil(sp??) like their doing with star wars, id prefere that to any gf4 that just had flashbacks. do the whole story based on vitos sire after killing don cicci. of course you would have to cast completly new people, i doubt people would buy it if deniro played a "young" vito.


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Wouldnt be hard to do as the parts the people would play would be older, and therefore viable. I think the film would hinge on the ability of Garcia to hold down an even more major part, and I am not sure if he could.


Cicci, a porta.

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Re: GodFather 4 #206091
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GF3 did suck, but some scenes kicked ass.. The Atlantic City Massacre, and The Joey Zaza killing scene...

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Re: GodFather 4 #206092
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why not just let andy garcia be the new godfather.... he is begining to look like micheal in real life....


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Re: GodFather 4 #206093
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but it still wouldnt be the same rafay....


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even if it isnt the same.... it will still be another installment to the godfather saga.... because the story never ended...


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"I am gonna make him an offer he can't refuse"
Re: GodFather 4 #206095
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Quote:
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why not just let andy garcia be the new godfather....


Because the further you get from Vito Corleone and his era, the further you get from the impact of the original Godfather story. Then what, dream up a son for Vincent to take over after him? And so on, and so on....??? It would mean absolutely nothing to depict a current-day descendant of Vito. It would be nothing more than a modern mob story. Puzo is dead. The story has ended. Let's appreciate the treasure we have. It's over.

Apple

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Re: GodFather 4 #206096
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Quote:
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Puzo is dead. The story has ended. Let's appreciate the treasure we have. It's over.

Apple

[ January 21, 2002: Message edited by: AppleOnYa ]


Could not have said it any better. It's the truth
puzo was the mastermind behind it all.


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Re: GodFather 4 #206097
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the story never ended..... just because mario puzu died doesnt mean that the legacy has to die with him


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Re: GodFather 4 #206098
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It is greedy to ask for another Godfather. It could be done but I would bet all the money I have on it being very inferior to the trilogy. I wouldnt even settle for a good Godfather film.


Cicci, a porta.

Could you get me off the hook Tom? For old times sake?
Re: GodFather 4 #206099
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just dont get your hopes up on a sequel thats all i got to say about that


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Re: GodFather 4 #206100
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thats true.. it probably wont happen


"You don't even think to call me Godfather"
"If anything in this life is certain, if history has taught us anything, it is that you can kill anyone."
"I am gonna make him an offer he can't refuse"
Re: GodFather 4 #206101
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Hi!

It shouldn't happen, I pray it won't: the circle is made, the story is over. What else could Puzo and Coppola tell us? I can't know.

But it's a definite mark of a piece of art that one's soul is sad to see that it all ends, and craves for more.

In fact, this long and delicious aftertaste is something to savour, to cherish, to warm to... just takes a while getting used to it.

But Coppola didn't say "no".

Best regards.

Alexander


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Re: GodFather 4 #206102
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... just because mario puzu died doesnt mean that the legacy has to die with him


The legacy never died, it lives on, particularly through boards like this one ... that is why it's a legacy. But the story itself DID end, in the only way it could - with the death of Michael Corleone.

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... it's a definite mark of a piece of art that one's soul is sad to see that it all ends, and craves for more.


That's absolutely true!! It's good that we crave more, but it would not be good if we got it, because what we do have is just enough. Hopefully, FFC will pay homage to the old show biz saying,..."Always leave 'em wanting more."

Apple


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Re: GodFather 4 #206103
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The Godfather Part IV would be overkill. I like the trilogy as it is, and even GFII was on the edge (although some people think it was over).

Who would write it? Puzo is dead. Who would play it? Andy Garcia? That's a possibility, what would be the story? Special event to open (marriage, first communion, order of San Sebastian), some gangsters plotting against Corleone, some special event in the end (baptism, opera) where all the crooks are killed?

No, the recipe of the Godfather is good, but another more movie would be a parody on itself. Sorry for those who are in favour, but it has ended in beauty.


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Re: GodFather 4 #206104
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francis... might have something to say... i mean we didnt know what he wanted to say in the other gf....


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"I am gonna make him an offer he can't refuse"
Re: GodFather 4 #206105
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"You don't even think to call me Godfather"
"If anything in this life is certain, if history has taught us anything, it is that you can kill anyone."
"I am gonna make him an offer he can't refuse"
Re: GodFather 4 #206106
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I don't consider Micheal to be the godfather. And Vincent never was nor will he ever be Godfather. Vito was the Godfather Micheal and Vincent were Dons. The Godfather and The Godfather Part 2, were about Vito, even though Mike was a BIG part in the first two. FFC and Puzo think the same way, GF3 wasn't Godfather because Vito was the godfather, and since Vito wasn't in it it wasn't godfather, they wanted it to be Death of Micheal Corleone. A later-on-in-life spinoff. Vincent never even MET the Godfather. So he has nothing to do with Godfather.

I think a spin-off would be cool tho. Did puzo actually write a GF4 script?

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i think he wrote half of it...


"You don't even think to call me Godfather"
"If anything in this life is certain, if history has taught us anything, it is that you can kill anyone."
"I am gonna make him an offer he can't refuse"
Re: GodFather 4 #206108
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"You don't even think to call me Godfather"
"If anything in this life is certain, if history has taught us anything, it is that you can kill anyone."
"I am gonna make him an offer he can't refuse"
Re: GodFather 4 #206109
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Beacause Paramount owns all the rights to the movies, couldnt they just decide one day to make a GF4 whether FFC wanted to or not? They could just hire a new director and writers. Or does Coppola have any say at all?


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Re: GodFather 4 #206110
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I didnt read every single reply but there is an unauthorized Godfather prequel film. I dont know whats the title but the main character is Vito Corleones father, a freedom fighter, and ends with a cop. Its an independent film they were showing in San Francisco.

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I'm curious to see what they do with Omerta as a movie. I know it wouldn't be a Godfather 4....but indirectly I suppose it'd be a sequel...set in our time. The Family trying to fold into legitimate society.
I reiterate that to do a Godfather 4 would be a bad idea...since Mario isn't around anymore. Not that I wouldn't like to see a Godfather 4...just don't know if the feel would be the same.

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I wih they'd turn GF4 script into book too. MP's daughter could finish off.

Somebody came up with the perfect title "The Godfather: The Lost Years". What a great Title!

Circumstances leading up to Antonio Andolini's death.
Genco Olive Oil's rise to the Corleone Family after Don Ciccio is assassinated.
Roth, Greene, Ola, Vito run molasses from Havana to Canada.
Moe Greene frontiers Las Vegas.
Sonny finds Tom.
Vito meets Luca.
Luca meets Johnny's bandleader.
Corleone Family moves to Long Island.
Clemenza's troubles with the Rosato brothers.
Las Vegas: Lucy Mancini and Jules Segal. Francesco Molinari teaches Fredo about gambling.
Fredo meets Deanna Dunn.
Tom Hagen's death.
Micheal's last years as Don in the 1970's.
The new Five Families: Albert Volpe, Frank Romano, Leo Cuneo, Marty Parisi, and Willi Cicci.
Rise of Joey Zasa, and Vincent Mancini.
Vincent Mancini continues the Family up to 1997 when Micheal dies, then its OVER, make sure the movie answers ALL of our questions.

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that would be a good read


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I think I might have mentioned it before, but far more interesting than the Sonny/Vincent parallel storyline would be a look at how and why Michael changed between Parts II and III.

Of course, this would be nigh on impossible from an artistic point of view (but then, who could have thought Part II could out-do Part I?), but it makes for a fascinating hypothesis.

You could be far more inventive coming up with a script for Part IV using the Sonny and Vincent idea, but the period between 1959 and 1979 needs to be insanely complex, mature and sophisticated. It would perhaps need to be better then the Part II script to be as successful, given what it has to acheive.

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Re: GodFather 4 #206115
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Quote:
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It is greedy to ask for another Godfather. It could be done but I would bet all the money I have on it being very inferior to the trilogy. I wouldnt even settle for a good Godfather film.


Sermanni, I wholeheartedly agree. Something tells me that each additional Godfather installment would follow the downward spiral pattern. That means that GF4 would be worse than GF3. But what do I know?


"Mio padre se chiamo Antonio Andolini, e questo è per te." - Robert De Niro to Giuseppe Sillato in The Godfather Part II.
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Well, I think somebody won't be casted again just in case. Oh wait a minute, she was shot, what else can be worse? hehehe


"Life is so beatiful" - Don Vito in The Godfather novel
"My name is Michael Corleone...There are people who'd pay a lot of money for that information" - The Godfather
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Quote:
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I think I might have mentioned it before, but far more interesting than the Sonny/Vincent parallel storyline would be a look at how and why Michael changed between Parts II and III.

Of course, this would be nigh on impossible from an artistic point of view (but then, who could have thought Part II could out-do Part I?), but it makes for a fascinating hypothesis.

You could be far more inventive coming up with a script for Part IV using the Sonny and Vincent idea, but the period between 1959 and 1979 needs to be insanely complex, mature and sophisticated. It would perhaps need to be better then the Part II script to be as successful, given what it has to acheive.
Bravo, PersianGodfather, exactly what i was going to say, the two years in between Gf1 and GF2 Nevada would be a possible mini-series with Clemenza and Rosatos and such. Not even anhour of film even. But as gor the post, If you read the book, you already know what happens between 1925 and 1945. What we DON'T know, where FFC or anybody else could create a whole new story is 1960-1978. THe Corleone children grow up, Tom Hagen dies, Joey Zasa rises to the top, Michael gets VERY old, THIS is a way to make a WHOLE NEW story, without it being another modern mob movie, post-1980.

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