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Re: Mafia Books [Re: WhackWhack] #961150
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Originally Posted by WhackWhack
I got the book "Vinny Gorgeous: Ugly rise and fall of a NY mobster" by Anthony M DeStefano.

not much out there on Basciano so I loved it. Mainly talked about his reign as acting boss, Cicale, Pizzolo and Santoro murders and his trials. Also had a tiny bit on Bruno Indelicato. A must read for anyone who supports real men who do not fold.


And are there any in depth books about Bruno Indelicato? Cannot find much at all on him. Mainly just details on him in the commission trial for hitting Galante.

Would love a full book on Bruno. He is a legend. Son of a infamous powerful capo. Was a triggerman on one of the most infamous mob hits ever. Was one of the youngest capos in cosa nostra history. Was a defendant in the commission trial. Supposedly whacked dozens and dozens of guys. Convicted of murder twice and yet will be back on the streets in a couple years.

Wish could find more info and pics on Bruno.

Not to mention married Jimmy Burke's daughter in prison..but a "legend"?...I don't know about that one.


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Can you imagine what bruno has seen and been involved in would love a book.

Re: Mafia Books [Re: DiLorenzo] #961156
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Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
Russo wanted to date Victoria Gotti, and instead of telling him no herself, she had somebody tell him she was interested...She's friggin trash...He dodged a bullet !!

Oh..now I understand your post..that's interesting...she's ugly anyways...well , maybe not 30 yrs. ago....


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Originally Posted by hoodlum
Originally Posted by WhackWhack
I got the book "Vinny Gorgeous: Ugly rise and fall of a NY mobster" by Anthony M DeStefano.

not much out there on Basciano so I loved it. Mainly talked about his reign as acting boss, Cicale, Pizzolo and Santoro murders and his trials. Also had a tiny bit on Bruno Indelicato. A must read for anyone who supports real men who do not fold.


And are there any in depth books about Bruno Indelicato? Cannot find much at all on him. Mainly just details on him in the commission trial for hitting Galante.

Would love a full book on Bruno. He is a legend. Son of a infamous powerful capo. Was a triggerman on one of the most infamous mob hits ever. Was one of the youngest capos in cosa nostra history. Was a defendant in the commission trial. Supposedly whacked dozens and dozens of guys. Convicted of murder twice and yet will be back on the streets in a couple years.

Wish could find more info and pics on Bruno.

Not to mention married Jimmy Burke's daughter in prison..but a "legend"?...I don't know about that one.


Son in law of Jimmy Burke. Son of Sonny Red. He whacked Carmine Galante. Was one of the youngest capos in Cosa Nostra history. Tried whacking Gotti and Ruggiero while driving on the expressway. Hit so many people he got nicknamed whack whack...yes I think Bruno is a legend and definitely deserves a full.scale biography.

Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #961387
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I have been looking, but does anyone know a book where they talk about the Camorra war between the NCO and Nuova Famiglia? Any good autobiographies out there in general? I think the last one I read and loved was Leonetti’s.

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Yeah, Russo's a douche but I'd like to hear stories from anyone who was a) around the Godfather set and b) owned a restaurant in Vegas for many years, even if he's full of shit half the time. I think it was Robert Evans who said that when Sidney Korshak and those guys were negotiating with Colombo to back off the Godfather production, Russo was in the room and the meeting ended with him getting nothing. He actually had to say "what about me?" before everyone left. Then they agreed he'd play Carlo. I mean here's this guy who claims to be Frank Costello's godson or whatever and nobody even knew who he was. In some interview where he promotes the book he says he got in Brando's face, which I don't believe. Evidently Brando was pissed because some nobody with no acting experience had a role with as much screen time as Carlo.


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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #961959
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I heard the Russo story before. I don’t see why he’d be lying about it. Because I haven’t seen anybody dispute his claim yet.

Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #962004
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I could see several reasons why he'd lie about it. Whether he did or not, yay for Brando on speaking out for what I'm sure everyone on that set was thinking.


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Im watching a doc on jimmy breslin its good i forgot he died oh yaeh the book good rat is great

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This jimmy breslin doc is great marvin the torch klein the lawyer this needs a thread of its own

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Quiet dom cirillos daughter was his secretary. Never hears that before. Funny

Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #962768
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I'm reading the new one on Frank Costello by Anthony DeStefano. Okay but way too much on other people, especially bootleggers.

Speaking of Breslin, Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight needs a reboot.


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I'm reading Little Man, about Meyer Lansky. I appreciate it because it's a history book about the Eisenhower era (and the post WW1 era as well, there's a significant attention to detail about Rothstein as well). The book is about one ethnic group, rather it's about Meyer Lansky and who he was: the myth vs reality.

It's my opinion that Lansky operated effectively as a Costello family capo.

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Both sound good.

I just finished the profession of Violence ( the Kray Twins).
Really good, enjoyed it.

Just started
Carmine the Snake by Frank DiMetteo
I like the way he tells the story.


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Re: Mafia Books [Re: BarrettM] #964772
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Originally Posted by BarrettM
I'm reading Little Man, about Meyer Lansky. I appreciate it because it's a history book about the Eisenhower era (and the post WW1 era as well, there's a significant attention to detail about Rothstein as well). The book is about one ethnic group, rather it's about Meyer Lansky and who he was: the myth vs reality.

It's my opinion that Lansky operated effectively as a Costello family capo.

"Little Man - Meyer Lansky and the Gangster Life" is the best, and best researched, gangster bio ever. Costello was a Lansky ally and business partner, but Lansky never was a capo in his family, nor could he be. His Mafia partner and protector was Vincent (Jimmy Blue Eyes) Alo.


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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #964799
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Little Man had great first hand sources but the problem is the author seemed to buy into their obvious downplaying of what Lansky actually belonged to. The book purports that there was no real criminal syndicate, which is easily refuted by mountains of evidence.

Lanksy could never be made but he had more pull than most made guys. Lucky and Frank were probably the least adamant about Italian heritage. They turned the American mafia into a business enterprise. Is there any documentation of either them ever expressing concern over anyone's Italian lineage? I'm sure the only reason Lucky agreed to making it a requirement for membership was to appease the Sicilian hard liners, and put an end to the bad blood over what happened to Maranzano.


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I'm listening to D'Arco's audio book. I didn't know Paul Vario got a hold of Joe Namath's Super Bowl ring. I wonder what game Joe lost that on.


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Re: Mafia Books [Re: OakAsFan] #965360
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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
I'm listening to D'Arco's audio book. I didn't know Paul Vario got a hold of Joe Namath's Super Bowl ring. I wonder what game Joe lost that on.


I read that book, it was goo. I enjoyed it but I remember at the time I read it , it was getting slammed on the boards since many felt he was full of shit.

If so, who gives a crap, the guy was there, survived and gives some good stories.


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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #965405
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Yeah I seem to recall Namath showing off his super bowl ring in some interview recently. Maybe Vario did have it and he somehow got it back. lol. I mean it's Joe Namath.


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My understanding is that players, coaches and front office personnel get one and then there are others that can be purchased for "fans." I can bet you that Joe Namath did not give his Super Bowl ring to Vario or anyone.I sometime see Super Bowl rings on eBay for sale but I don't think Namath ever needed the money that bad.
https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/2/1/7923079/super-bowl-2015-rings-winner-loser

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And let's be honest, if Paulie told everyone in the neighborhood that it was Namath's ring, it was Namath's ring...even if it wasn't.


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Just curious. What are the things that D'Arco gets wrong? I'm telling you his book seems pretty interesting. A lay person like me wouldn't be able to tell if he's lying. I'm just getting to the Amuso-Gaspipe rampage right now. How much will there be on the Gambino situation at that time?


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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Little Man had great first hand sources but the problem is the author seemed to buy into their obvious downplaying of what Lansky actually belonged to.

Much as I respect Robert Lacey and the excellent scholarship he did with "Little Man," I'm skeptical of his claim that Lansky never dealt in drugs or was a party to murder. He was a gangster: If there was money to be made in drugs, or advantage to be gained from murder, he was part of it. Didn't Lansky arrange the hit squads that whacked Masseria and Maranzano?


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Little Man was a good book. I'm thinking that in order to get those contributors that were close to Lansky the author had to work under a premise that Lansky was a misunderstood hard nosed kid that made some mistakes but was never part of a large syndicate. As I understand it Lansky 100% backed anything and everything Luciano did so he had to have been instrumental in taking out Masseria and Maranzano.


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In the media release (link below) by New Metric Media about their three new TV development deals, I learned that Peter Edwards of the Toronto Star is writing a book titled The Wolfpack, to be published by Penguin Random House later this year.

https://www.tv-eh.com/2019/03/18/ne...deals-from-critically-acclaimed-authors/

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Mafia Spies is the definitive account of America’s most remarkable espionage plots ever—with CIA agents, mob hitmen, “kompromat” sex, presidential indiscretion, and James Bond-like killing devices together in a top-secret mystery full of surprise twists and deadly intrigue. In the early 1960s, two top gangsters, Johnny Roselli and Sam Giancana, were hired by the CIA to kill Cuba’s Communist leader, Fidel Castro, only to wind up murdered themselves amidst Congressional hearings and a national debate about the JFK assassination.

Mafia Spies revolves around the outlaw friendship of these two mob buddies and their fascinating world of CIA spies, fellow Mafioso in Chicago, Cuban exile commandos in Miami, beautiful Hollywood women, famous entertainers like Frank Sinatra’s Rat Pack in Las Vegas, Castro’s own spies in Havana and his double agents hidden in Florida, J. Edgar Hoover’s FBI snooping, and the Kennedy administration’s “Get Castro” obsession in Washington. Thomas Maier is among the first to take full advantage of the National Archives’ 2017–18 release of the long-suppressed JFK files, many of which deal with the CIA’s top secret anti-Castro operation in Florida and Cuba.

With several new investigative findings, Mafia Spies is a spy exposé, murder mystery, and shocking true story that recounts America’s first foray into the assassination business, a tale with profound impact for today’s Trump era. Who killed Johnny and Sam—and why wasn’t Castro assassinated despite the CIA’s many clandestine efforts?

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Originally Posted by JW24
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Mafia Spies is the definitive account of America’s most remarkable espionage plots ever—with CIA agents, mob hitmen, “kompromat” sex, presidential indiscretion, and James Bond-like killing devices together in a top-secret mystery full of surprise twists and deadly intrigue. In the early 1960s, two top gangsters, Johnny Roselli and Sam Giancana, were hired by the CIA to kill Cuba’s Communist leader, Fidel Castro, only to wind up murdered themselves amidst Congressional hearings and a national debate about the JFK assassination.

Mafia Spies revolves around the outlaw friendship of these two mob buddies and their fascinating world of CIA spies, fellow Mafioso in Chicago, Cuban exile commandos in Miami, beautiful Hollywood women, famous entertainers like Frank Sinatra’s Rat Pack in Las Vegas, Castro’s own spies in Havana and his double agents hidden in Florida, J. Edgar Hoover’s FBI snooping, and the Kennedy administration’s “Get Castro” obsession in Washington. Thomas Maier is among the first to take full advantage of the National Archives’ 2017–18 release of the long-suppressed JFK files, many of which deal with the CIA’s top secret anti-Castro operation in Florida and Cuba.

With several new investigative findings, Mafia Spies is a spy exposé, murder mystery, and shocking true story that recounts America’s first foray into the assassination business, a tale with profound impact for today’s Trump era. Who killed Johnny and Sam—and why wasn’t Castro assassinated despite the CIA’s many clandestine efforts?



Saw a write up on this book in my local Sunday paper.

Interesting


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I’m reading Carmine the snake, its good.

Enjoying the part at about 60% where he defending himself in court.

Guy had some balls to do that.


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I’ve been listening to al d’arco’s audiobook and he keeps saying ‘four families’. Why not 5?

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