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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #928131
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http://www.ozy.com/flashback/the-brief-brilliant-career-of-the-godfathers-weak-son/83159

Wasn't sure where else to put this. John Cazale, great article on the actor who played Fredo, and died so young.

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Ralph Natale’s book is the worst mob book I’ve ever read. He was Bruno’s best friend, no one would have dared kill him if he wasn’t in jail, Bruno’s wife saved seats for his family in the front row for his funeral, everyone was afraid of him, blah blah.

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It wasn’t hard to tell he lied his ass off. I don’t believe he was made by both Bruno and Gambino in his own private ceremony either

Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #929126
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No interest in either the Gigante or Natale books. One sounds like a rehash of newspaper articles everyone's already read and the other is a senile fart embellishing his importance.

Would kill for someone like a D'Arco or a Caramandi to write a book.

If only De Fede was still alive.

He could've filled in a few blanks on the post-Amuso era of the Lucchese family.


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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #929183
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Looks like there are new books on Frank Costello and Carmine Persico coming out

https://www.amazon.com/Top-Hoodlum-Frank-Costello-Minister/dp/0806538694/ref=sm_n_au_dka_NZ_pr_con_0_2?adId=0806538694&creativeASIN=0806538694&linkId=3031660630e51087f2d458d54f135f9c&tag=theofficiamariop&linkCode=w70&ref-refURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gangsterbb.net%2Fthreads%2Fubbthreads.php&slotNum=0&imprToken=u0gDlrOtsJnTKS6nVsmxoA&adType=smart&adMode=auto&adFormat=strip&impressionTimestamp=1518391977359

https://www.amazon.com/Carmine-Snak...mp;psc=1&refRID=DSNWHBGND8YR6XD89R8H

Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #929189
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Is Frank Di Matteo a good author?


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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #929205
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Is the Tommy Del book written by his wife and kids any good? Philly mob is always interesting

Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #929206
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greatest book wrote from a point of view besides the mobster. that book is great. tommy del i think talks to george in the book to or it might be from trials and george put it to paper. i bought it on amazon yrs back for like 5 bucks used paperback. shit i feel like i was amazons first customer . i heard if you invested 1000bucks in amazon 10 12 yrs ago youd be rich today what if. tommy del always kept it a secret from his mafia friends his mother was 100 percent polish his wife loves to dragg him threw the dirt and his kids. great book. tommy says frank sindone had the capos vote over phil testa to become boss also. he was well liked in philly that throws another twist in the whole bruno murder.

Re: Mafia Books [Re: JimmyIrons] #929284
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Originally Posted by JimmyIrons
Is the Tommy Del book written by his wife and kids any good? Philly mob is always interesting


Definitely check it out if you are interested in the Philly mob.

Re: Mafia Books [Re: MightyDR] #929308
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Originally Posted by MightyDR
Originally Posted by JimmyIrons
Is the Tommy Del book written by his wife and kids any good? Philly mob is always interesting


Definitely check it out if you are interested in the Philly mob.

There r actually 2 books written about Tommy Del..the 1 his x conspired with, & one written later on by his oldest child..I'm on my way 2 the shed 2 find it now ....will get back w/ name of book.


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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #929683
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New Jersey Mob: Memoirs of a Top Cop by Bob Buccino. Enjoyable, light reading about a New Jersey State Trooper who busted or dealt with many notable mobsters. Plenty of entertaining stories.

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Theres 2 tommy del books? I read mobfather by george a. Its cool its from the perspective of his ex wife and kids i believe tommy reach out to george to. Or it must be from courts. Its a great read it came out back in like 90 to. Way before mob wives were writting books. Tommy del wonder if hes still alive. He flipped young mid 40tys. Be like 73 now. He was a interesting guy sounds like a real [BadWord].

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Originally Posted by pmac
Theres 2 tommy del books? I read mobfather by george a. Its cool its from the perspective of his ex wife and kids i believe tommy reach out to george to. Or it must be from courts. Its a great read it came out back in like 90 to. Way before mob wives were writting books. Tommy del wonder if hes still alive. He flipped young mid 40tys. Be like 73 now. He was a interesting guy sounds like a real [BadWord].

Yes, Pmac..say it.. Tommy Del was a real prick..My pop knew him & could'nt stand him ,, a fuckin' cheapskate 2 say the least unless it came 2 his own family or children.Tried to extort my dad's comp.(Keebler Cookie Comp.) in the early 70s..that branch @least G & Hunting Park)


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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #931096
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Anyone read the Frank Sheerhan book? Worth a read?

Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #931114
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Out recently:

Garden State Gangland: The Rise of the Mob in New Jersey - Scott Deitche

The Mafia's President: Nixon and the Mob - Don Fulsom

Later this year:

Top Hoodlum: Frank Costello, Prime Minister of the Mafia - Anthony M. DeStefano

Carmine the Snake: Carmine Persico and His Murderous Mafia Family - Frank Dimatteo and Michael Benson

Scarface and the Untouchable: Al Capone, Eliot Ness, and the Battle for Chicago - Max Allen Collins

Murder Capital: Madison Wisconsin -The Mafia Under Siege - Gavin Schmitt

Chicago Heights: Little Joe College, the Outfit, and the Fall of Sam Giancana - Charles Hager

And, an expanded edition of Blood Covenant, by everyone's favorite, Michael Franzese.


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Thanks, ill be checking the Frank Costello book out for sure. Interesting character


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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #932006
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book on persico. they had some many trials if they get all of the court records and testimonys could be good read but it will probaly be a copy an paste book of old ny times and capeci articles.

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Yes, Top Hoodlum sounds good.


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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #932918
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The President Street Boys: Growing Up Mafia by Frank DiMatteo. Light reading with some entertaining mob related stories and perspective on the Gallos.

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the book stunk. listen your wriiting abook about organized crime either spill your guts or the books gonna suck. i give it to sammy the bull and nick the crow they let it all go im sure them didnt go the extra mile to throw firends under the bus but this guys book about gallo is copy an paste of old rabb articles from the 70tys then his spin on it after he joined a decav crew which he doesnt go into detail for whatever reason. im guessing the second you decide to write a book your mob life is done ala jr gotti.

Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #932926
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These are the following books on Cosa Nostra I have

Five Families by Selwyn Raab
Chin Gigante by Larry McShane
Underboss (Sammy Gravano) by Maas
Gaspipe by Philip Carlo
Anatomy of a butcher (Tommy karate) Philip Carlo
Richard Kuklinski by Carlo
The Johnny Martorano book
Murder Machine by Mustain and Capeci (my favorite)

All were interesting though Kuklinski was full of shit.

Is there any quality books about Vinny Gorgeous or Bruno Indelicato? I'd really enjoy a book about Vinny or Bruno.

Re: Mafia Books [Re: WhackWhack] #932947
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Originally Posted by WhackWhack
These are the following books on Cosa Nostra I have

Five Families by Selwyn Raab
Chin Gigante by Larry McShane
Underboss (Sammy Gravano) by Maas
Gaspipe by Philip Carlo
Anatomy of a butcher (Tommy karate) Philip Carlo
Richard Kuklinski by Carlo
The Johnny Martorano book
Murder Machine by Mustain and Capeci (my favorite)

All were interesting though Kuklinski was full of shit.

Is there any quality books about Vinny Gorgeous or Bruno Indelicato? I'd really enjoy a book about Vinny or Bruno.

Five Families..bing... ,have it,chin..bing...underboss..bing..Gaspipe ..bing( didnt think so much of it)..I would not even read anything about richard k...... Murder machine...bing check Cherry hill mall's (n.j.) bookshop 4 the Vinny G. Book..my wife says she saw a new publication on him...they also ship cheap.


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Re: Mafia Books [Re: MightyDR] #933460
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Originally Posted by MightyDR
The President Street Boys: Growing Up Mafia by Frank DiMatteo. Light reading with some entertaining mob related stories and perspective on the Gallos.



Just started reading this today, I like it, its good.


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Mr. Untouchable by Leroy "Nicky" Barnes. Autobiography of a major drug dealer in the 70s who bought his dope from the mob. Had interactions with mobsters such as Matthew Madonna, Joey Gallo, Carmine Galante and Mark Reiter from John Gotti's crew. This was a really well written and entertaining book. I powered through it in a few days. Barnes is an intelligent guy but also has a huge ego. Really interesting reading how things are at a boss level, breaking down how the whole organization works.

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There is book "Vinny Gorgeous" by Anthony M. DeStefano published by Lyons Press which details Basciano's rise and fall, as well as his relationship with Indelicato. Avail on Amazon, etc.

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Originally Posted by JimmyIrons
Anyone read the Frank Sheerhan book? Worth a read?


Yes. "I Heard You Paint Houses" by Charles Brandt is a fascinating account of Frank Sheeran's life and I truly believe he was the man who pulled the trigger, taking Jimmy Hoffa's life. Some people have doubted his story, but it's by far the most plausible and I have yet to find a discrepancy in the book. If you haven't heard it's also being turned into a movie starring Robert De Niro, Al Pacino and Joe Pesci called "The Irishman."

I just started reading that Chin book too. Pretty interesting since I didn't know a whole lot about Gigante before other than his Wikipedia biography and what a few documentaries covered.

Another book I recommend is "The Hammer Conspiracies" by Frank Aloi which tells the story about how a mob hit on Rochester family associate Jimmy "The Hammer" Massaro resulted in the convictions of the entire upper echelon of the crime family, a police scandal where fabricated evidence led to the mobster's release from prison and a resulting war the bloodied the streets of Rochester, NY in the late 1970s.

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The Hoffa Wars, by Dan Moldea, is a really good book about Hoffa and the mob, too. Mostly about rebels trying to reform the Teamsters, but it spares no details about Hoffa and the IBT's mob connections, from 1930's Detroit, to his fallout with Tony Pro, to currying favor with Galante in prison just before disappearing.


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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
The Hoffa Wars, by Dan Moldea, is a really good book about Hoffa and the mob, too. Mostly about rebels trying to reform the Teamsters, but it spares no details about Hoffa and the IBT's mob connections, from 1930's Detroit, to his fallout with Tony Pro, to currying favor with Galante in prison just before disappearing.

I have an issue of PLAYBOY ,JULY 1975 ,the PLAYBOY interview is Jimmy Hoffa & in the interview he says " I never had, nor will I never need bodyguards"...Ironically ,he disappeared THAT month the issue was published!


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The Life: A True Story About A Brooklyn Boy Seduced Into The Dark World Of The Mafia by Larry Mazza. I thought I had read all I could stand about Scarpa etc but this turned out to be really good. Pretty raunchy early on when he was banging Linda Scarpa, but later it gets into good, interesting details about being a wiseguy and the mob politics leading up to and throughout the Colombo war.

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Agreed,really goes into the school and war in great detail.


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