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Re: Buffalo Mob [Re: furio_from_naples] #999204
11/04/20 08:06 AM
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Todaro’s nephew Anthony Greece pleads guilty to gun possession in furtherance of drug trafficking.

Press Release: https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdny/p...arms-furtherance-drug-trafficking-crimes

Scott Bernstein article: https://gangsterreport.com/an-uncle...-nephew-pleads-out-in-drug-firearm-case/

Re: Buffalo Mob [Re: furio_from_naples] #999205
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If we consider Buffalo LCN is still alive. We can definitive say they get some hard hits in recent years.

2018 ?Massimigliano Carfagna? get 10 years
2018 Domenico and Giuseppe "Joe" Violi gets 8 years.
2019 Raid in Pete Gerace, Jr. Strip Club
2019 Bongiovanni, get busted
2019 Michael Masecchia arrested
2020 - Anthony Gerace,guilty
2020 - Bifulco died

----------------Maybe connected maybe not---------
2018 Louis Ciminelli Jr.,get 2 years.


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Re: Buffalo Mob [Re: Nitro] #999208
11/04/20 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitro
If we consider Buffalo LCN is still alive. We can definitive say they get some hard hits in recent years.

2018 ?Massimigliano Carfagna? get 10 years
2018 Domenico and Giuseppe "Joe" Violi gets 8 years.
2019 Raid in Pete Gerace, Jr. Strip Club
2019 Bongiovanni, get busted
2019 Michael Masecchia arrested
2020 - Anthony Gerace,guilty
2020 - Bifulco died

----------------Maybe connected maybe not---------
2018 Louis Ciminelli Jr.,get 2 years.



Hit so hard some attempt to keep the current narrative alive.

Re: Buffalo Mob [Re: furio_from_naples] #999210
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Do you hear about more arrest on local level ?

In Chicago we see this year some arrest with LCN background but LE never speak about it. So maybe some kind of strategy.

Re: Buffalo Mob [Re: furio_from_naples] #999212
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Yes, Joe Bella III was arested on criminal complaint by Homeland Security Investigationson narcotics trafficking and firearms charges this Past April.

Here is a Buffalo News article: https://buffalonews.com/news/local/...9304cca-3104-5b14-9bf1-e4362ebd2427.html

Here is the WDNY press release: https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdny/pr/buffalo-man-arrested-and-charged-multiple-drug-and-gun-charges

It will be interesting to see if a grand jury delivers an indictment anytime soon.

Re: Buffalo Mob [Re: furio_from_naples] #999213
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Do you know more about him ?

Re: Buffalo Mob [Re: furio_from_naples] #999223
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Originally Posted by Nitro
Do you know more about him ?

Close to Sam Capitano, involved in debt collection schemes:

See NY Attorney General: https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/201...s-165k-settlement-debt-collector-buffalo

See Buffalo News: https://buffalonews.com/2016/11/02/buffalo-debt-collector-accused-harassing-consumers/

See: https://www.insidearm.com/news/00013565-new-york-court-halts-debt-collectors-oper/

Telemarketing scams going back to 2002.

See NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/04/...ays-pill-seller-invoked-terror-case.html

Re: Buffalo Mob [Re: furio_from_naples] #1003570
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Lawyer for Ex-DEA Agent: Charges Mired in Anti-Italian Bias
The attorney for a former federal agent charged with pocketing $250,000 in bribes to protect the Mafia in Buffalo, New York, says the indictment is rooted in a racial animus toward Italian Americans.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...agent-charges-mired-in-anti-italian-bias


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Re: Buffalo Mob [Re: furio_from_naples] #1003607
01/23/21 09:19 PM
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Here is one thing to consider, Joe Todaro Jr, has spent considerable amount of resources building his image up in the media as a straight laced, hard working businessman, who the feds and the media are blaming him for the sins of his father.

We see that the Buffalo LCN or whoever is left has a way of corrupting local and federal L.E.

What I mean by that is that you the DEA agent that was recently indicted however, we also see in Hamilton, there are recent cases of a few L.E. officers actually indicted and a bunch more accused of being on the take.

To help foster the squeaky clean businessman image insulation from the crimes on the street would be very helpful.

Somewhere along the line, the decision was made NOT to induct, the sons, nephews and cousins etc.. (Let them be involved with the rackets however, NO BUTTON).

One of the things we have seen in Buffalo, is traditional LCN, rackets, with people that were associates of the LCN, family or their relatives however, no direct tie. (INSULATION)
I.E. in some pretty big construction and/or union projects.

When the indictment hits there is NO direct tie to the LCN, family, that is the guys that are put out front to take the hit are one or two layers removed from the LCN.

Take a look at the Gambino's and the Campos, case you have a typical kick back scheme for work being awarded to companies paying kick-backs, this happens every day in the construction industry however, if you are LCN, this ends up being a racketeering case.

The difference is these companies are owned/controlled by members of the Gambino family.

Most of you know once you tie R.I.C.O. to these cases a couple of things happen:

1) The prison sentences go way up. (Easier to get people to flip)
2) To convict on a R.I.C.O. case you only need preponderance of evidence, which is way EASIER than beyond a reasonable doubt. (Easier to convict a trial)
3) R.I.C.O. extends the statue of limitations.

Its just a smarted way of doing things with layers of insulation.

Nickel, knows the Buffalo, cases I am referring to and could probably post the links.

So what I am saying is that some of this could be by design.

It could be the elders looking out for their kin, just adapting to the new world we live in, the world has changed in so many ways since Luciano, put this together, so for these guys to survive they need to change with the times and for the ones that do NOT, they surely will be extinct.

Look at Jack Tocco, from Detroit he was one of the longest sitting LCN, bosses he spent I think a year in jail died at 87, of natural causes surrounded by family.
He too cultivated the businessman image, he too had political protection.

Re: Buffalo Mob [Re: furio_from_naples] #1003624
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Was there ever a "line" drawn between the Buffalo-Niagara guys and the Canadian buffalo guys culturally, or socially? Even in NYC mobsters team up based on borough and even kill each other. I always thought it was interested that the country's border never stopped Magaddino from consolidated his family in such a large territory. Many square miles

NickleCity we never met but I appreciate your posts

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Re: Buffalo Mob [Re: furio_from_naples] #1003663
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Nickel, can better elaborate however, he told me a story about a wake of a Buffalo, LCN member a few years back and If I remember correctly he said guys from Canada, had attended.

I would imagine back in the day it was pretty easy to go across the border obviously not as easy today.




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Re: Buffalo Mob [Re: furio_from_naples] #1003771
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current info/structure of buffalo/todaro crime family
(jan.1 2021-
BOSS/senior advisor
JOSEPH TODARO JR.

Joseph Todaro III (son)-no evidence of being made but is Todaro Jr.'s only son.
-married to daughter of Donald "the Turtle" Panepinto.

Peter Gerace Sr. (brother-in-law to Todaro Jr.)
sons
Peter Gerace Jr.
-owner of Pharoh's strip club in Cheektowaga,NY which was raided Dec.17 2019.
Anthony Gerace
-plead guilty to drug,firearm and gambling charges.

Robert Panaro Jr. (soldier)-from all media accounts he lives in Las Vegas and is inactive.

Joseph C. Bella III (associate)
-no info who Bella works for but he is involved in a lot of criminal activity.

UNDERBOSS
DOMENICO VIOLI (imprisoned)
-based in Hamilton,ON.
Giuseppe Violi (brother)(imprisoned)

Luppino cell
Leader
Rocco Luppino

Natale Luppino (soldier)
Antonio Iavarone (soldier)

-i have checked online for info on most of the oft mentioned capo/soldiers of the buffalo family and cannot find any current proof of criminal activity.
so either the family is now operating as a small tight operation or there is no family left.
-the list above might show a total of 5 made men 3 of which are based in Hamilton,ON.
-there is no info either of mafia activity in other parts of upstate NY:rochester,utica,syracuse show no current indictments involving mafia.
-don't know where the DEA agent bongiovanni and masecchia line up in all this no reference to known mafia members in indictments.

Re: Buffalo Mob [Re: furio_from_naples] #1003784
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Re: Buffalo Mob [Re: NickleCity] #1003785
01/27/21 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by NickleCity
A high school teacher in Buffalo Public Schools arrested last year may be a member of the mob according to new Buffalo News article on DEA agent Bongiovanni and Masecchia: https://buffalonews.com/2020/06/22/feds-tie-former-dea-agent-to-drug-dealer-and-mob/

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A new grand jury indictment against the former agent also names Michael Masecchia, a former Buffalo school teacher described in court papers as a longtime drug dealer and member or associate of "Italian Organized Crime...

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..."Masecchia’s is an associate and possible made member of the Buffalo LCN family," the email said, according to court papers. LCN was a reference to La Cosa Nostra.


Michael Masecchia is married to made man Bart Mazzara’s (deceased) daughter. His wife’s uncles are/were made men Vic and Dan (deceased) Sansanese.

Re: Buffalo Mob [Re: VitoCahill] #1003817
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In NYC we don't see any cases lately does that mean there is no mob, i dont think so. The same with Buffalo.


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not that we don't see cases lately in nyc which we do but there hasn't been a significant mafia bust in the buffalo area for close to 20 years.
every 6 months there is a case connected to 1 of the other active families on east coast (5 families,decav,philly,new england) not to mention MTL mafia groups and 'ndrangheta in toronto.
not trying to start an argument i have very little knowledge of the buffalo family to begin with. but with most OC groups every now and then they take a bust.

Re: Buffalo Mob [Re: VitoCahill] #1003849
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Originally Posted by VitoCahill
not that we don't see cases lately in nyc which we do but there hasn't been a significant mafia bust in the buffalo area for close to 20 years.
every 6 months there is a case connected to 1 of the other active families on east coast (5 families,decav,philly,new england) not to mention MTL mafia groups and 'ndrangheta in toronto.
not trying to start an argument i have very little knowledge of the buffalo family to begin with. but with most OC groups every now and then they take a bust.


During the time period 2006-present have identified 28 different incidents where those involved in criminal complaints, indictments, and arrests appear to have connections to people who are/were in or have had associations with the Buffalo crime family. This doesn’t mean their activity is mob related. It could certainly just be remnants of a dead family. But with these numbers I wouldn’t rule out the possibility of an active family in Buffalo. Here is the issue: When people think a family is dead, they may overlook activity indicating the family is alive and active. Of course people who think the family is active may find activity where there is not.

Re: Buffalo Mob [Re: furio_from_naples] #1003857
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The fact that Domenico violi a Canadian was made underboss may be the best indication of what's going on in Buffalo. Todaro jr may see the future of the family in Hamilton where from what I can tell there is a more active faction of the family.

Re: Buffalo Mob [Re: NickleCity] #1003869
01/28/21 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NickleCity
Originally Posted by VitoCahill
not that we don't see cases lately in nyc which we do but there hasn't been a significant mafia bust in the buffalo area for close to 20 years.
every 6 months there is a case connected to 1 of the other active families on east coast (5 families,decav,philly,new england) not to mention MTL mafia groups and 'ndrangheta in toronto.
not trying to start an argument i have very little knowledge of the buffalo family to begin with. but with most OC groups every now and then they take a bust.


During the time period 2006-present have identified 28 different incidents where those involved in criminal complaints, indictments, and arrests appear to have connections to people who are/were in or have had associations with the Buffalo crime family. This doesn’t mean their activity is mob related. It could certainly just be remnants of a dead family. But with these numbers I wouldn’t rule out the possibility of an active family in Buffalo. Here is the issue: When people think a family is dead, they may overlook activity indicating the family is alive and active. Of course people who think the family is active may find activity where there is not.


But if there are only few men active that is not a family its a glorified crew.

Re: Buffalo Mob [Re: furio_from_naples] #1003873
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This argument has been going on for years, does the family exist or not. I think it does. And I think its a money making family at that. Small in numbers and definitely on the down low the way it should be. What difference does it make if it's 20, 30 or 50 guys? It's organized, disciplined and making money. Just my opinion.

Re: Buffalo Mob [Re: furio_from_naples] #1003875
01/28/21 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Originally Posted by NickleCity
Originally Posted by VitoCahill
not that we don't see cases lately in nyc which we do but there hasn't been a significant mafia bust in the buffalo area for close to 20 years.
every 6 months there is a case connected to 1 of the other active families on east coast (5 families,decav,philly,new england) not to mention MTL mafia groups and 'ndrangheta in toronto.
not trying to start an argument i have very little knowledge of the buffalo family to begin with. but with most OC groups every now and then they take a bust.


During the time period 2006-present have identified 28 different incidents where those involved in criminal complaints, indictments, and arrests appear to have connections to people who are/were in or have had associations with the Buffalo crime family. This doesn’t mean their activity is mob related. It could certainly just be remnants of a dead family. But with these numbers I wouldn’t rule out the possibility of an active family in Buffalo. Here is the issue: When people think a family is dead, they may overlook activity indicating the family is alive and active. Of course people who think the family is active may find activity where there is not.


But if there are only few men active that is not a family its a glorified crew.


My questions: 1. Does your statement assume Buffalo has not made any men? 2. If so, is that assumption based on the assumption that the crime family is dead? 3. How do you handle the information regarding an alleged making ceremony in 2015 when Dominic was made? 4. If number 3 is true, maybe the ongoing assumption has been wrong and there have been other making ceremonies--I recognize this is an assumption on my part. 5. If my assumption is right, how many making ceremonies did they have in the supposed "dead years?" 7. How do we handle the LE statement that Masecchia may be a made member of the Buffalo LCN? 8. Do we assume this is false because we've assumed the family is dead? 9. If it is true that Masecchia is a made man, does point to the validity of the 2015 making ceremony or another ceremony we are unaware of? Again, number 9 would be be an assumption on my part. 10. Some will point to the FBI statement that only remnants remain form March 2017 and say this proves the family is dead, but this is an assumption that the FBI still believes the family is dead. Is that assumption true? Or has it changed with the new information that has been revealed from Nov. 2017 forward.

I could keep going but my point is this: We all make assumptions base on the presuppositions we cary with us.

The question is can one identify his or her presuppositions and be prepared to change them when new data is available?

I try to do this, but currently, with the information available to me, I still lean to an active Buffalo family. I think the prevailing presuppositions have been wrong. But again, I may be wrong--I recognize the presuppositions I bring to my understanding of this situation.

Re: Buffalo Mob [Re: furio_from_naples] #1003884
01/28/21 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by NickleCity
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Originally Posted by NickleCity
Originally Posted by VitoCahill
not that we don't see cases lately in nyc which we do but there hasn't been a significant mafia bust in the buffalo area for close to 20 years.
every 6 months there is a case connected to 1 of the other active families on east coast (5 families,decav,philly,new england) not to mention MTL mafia groups and 'ndrangheta in toronto.
not trying to start an argument i have very little knowledge of the buffalo family to begin with. but with most OC groups every now and then they take a bust.


During the time period 2006-present have identified 28 different incidents where those involved in criminal complaints, indictments, and arrests appear to have connections to people who are/were in or have had associations with the Buffalo crime family. This doesn’t mean their activity is mob related. It could certainly just be remnants of a dead family. But with these numbers I wouldn’t rule out the possibility of an active family in Buffalo. Here is the issue: When people think a family is dead, they may overlook activity indicating the family is alive and active. Of course people who think the family is active may find activity where there is not.


But if there are only few men active that is not a family its a glorified crew.


My questions: 1. Does your statement assume Buffalo has not made any men? 2. If so, is that assumption based on the assumption that the crime family is dead? 3. How do you handle the information regarding an alleged making ceremony in 2015 when Dominic was made? 4. If number 3 is true, maybe the ongoing assumption has been wrong and there have been other making ceremonies--I recognize this is an assumption on my part. 5. If my assumption is right, how many making ceremonies did they have in the supposed "dead years?" 7. How do we handle the LE statement that Masecchia may be a made member of the Buffalo LCN? 8. Do we assume this is false because we've assumed the family is dead? 9. If it is true that Masecchia is a made man, does point to the validity of the 2015 making ceremony or another ceremony we are unaware of? Again, number 9 would be be an assumption on my part. 10. Some will point to the FBI statement that only remnants remain form March 2017 and say this proves the family is dead, but this is an assumption that the FBI still believes the family is dead. Is that assumption true? Or has it changed with the new information that has been revealed from Nov. 2017 forward.

I could keep going but my point is this: We all make assumptions base on the presuppositions we cary with us.

The question is can one identify his or her presuppositions and be prepared to change them when new data is available?

I try to do this, but currently, with the information available to me, I still lean to an active Buffalo family. I think the prevailing presuppositions have been wrong. But again, I may be wrong--I recognize the presuppositions I bring to my understanding of this situation.


I think that could have a dozen or less of made men and speaking frankly this is not a family but a bunch of old times and wannabes that make money,are organized ecc but still a glorified crew. I dont think that if really made a canadian guy as underboss this mean that have no men in Us for the rule,if the whole thing is true.

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the "chart" i posted was not meant to be the definitive evidence of the status of the mafia in buffalo.
many posters on here over the years and on other sites have regurgitated the same "charts" from all over the net showing a very basic list which usually contains a lot of names of dead or inactive or not even made men.
i do not know a lot about the mafia in buffalo and have only recently begun to research it because of its long time connections to canada.
by posting the names i did i was trying to get a more accurate street presence of the family.

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lets not forget either about the tobacco trafficking cell led by domenico agostino (now deceased) and domenico cocullo based in montreal/quebec.
it was revealed by rcmp that this cell was paying a tribute or part of profits to the violi bros.
this would show the reach of violi bros and by extension the buffalo crime family.

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Originally Posted by VitoCahill
not that we don't see cases lately in nyc which we do but there hasn't been a significant mafia bust in the buffalo area for close to 20 years.
every 6 months there is a case connected to 1 of the other active families on east coast (5 families,decav,philly,new england) not to mention MTL mafia groups and 'ndrangheta in toronto.
not trying to start an argument i have very little knowledge of the buffalo family to begin with. but with most OC groups every now and then they take a bust.



A DEA agent in bed with LCN, in 2021 isn't significant?


The Violi's case wasn't significant?
The one brother got 16 years if he was charged in the US he would have gotten double that 32 Years+

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Originally Posted by VitoCahill
lets not forget either about the tobacco trafficking cell led by domenico agostino (now deceased) and domenico cocullo based in montreal/quebec.
it was revealed by rcmp that this cell was paying a tribute or part of profits to the violi bros.
this would show the reach of violi bros and by extension the buffalo crime family.


That’s interesting, I read an article about the Monture family from the 6 Nations Reservation, it mentioned business with local mobsters, specifically related to tobacco.

I think this is it, mentioned Monture, the mob, etc. Also goes in deep to the murder of the Racco.

https://reports.thespec.io/category/railroaded/

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Is there any evidence yet that bongiovanni had connections to the Mafia in Buffalo.
And the violi bros arrest in project otremens is significant but all based in Hamilton Ontario not Buffalo. I have never doubted the existence of Mafia groups in Hamilton.

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Originally Posted by VitoCahill
Is there any evidence yet that bongiovanni had connections to the Mafia in Buffalo.
And the violi bros arrest in project otremens is significant but all based in Hamilton Ontario not Buffalo. I have never doubted the existence of Mafia groups in Hamilton.


Only Violi said that was made underboss and the Commission approved. But the Commission doesnt exist anymore.

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Originally Posted by VitoCahill
Is there any evidence yet that bongiovanni had connections to the Mafia in Buffalo.
And the violi bros arrest in project otremens is significant but all based in Hamilton Ontario not Buffalo. I have never doubted the existence of Mafia groups in Hamilton.


Right before bodies started dropping in Hamilton, the consensus was nothing was going on....

The consensus was/is on Buffalo that because lack of criminal indictments is evidence they no longer exist.

Let's apply that to Hamilton before the Violo's what was the last major mafia event?

The Mustiano's going to jail?
Was that in 1997?

I believe it's a shell of what it was.
I think there a couple/ few crews left.

I believe the structure is loose.

I believe the Heirarchy is layers removed.
Heavily into legit business and not taking any chances.

I also think they have started to rebuild as their is evidence that new members have been inducted.

For the feds to leak to the press that the teacher may be a member that has to be based on something......

I never understood why anyone would be calling Violi's wire taps in to question?

Why would he be lying or considered a liar?
It appears that he is well respected I have never read anything negative about him.

So if he says he is U.B. I have no reason not to believe him.
Also to support that claim the feds in Canada, came out and said that Buffalo LCN, still exists. That leads me to believe they have more evidence to suggest that.

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Originally Posted by BensonHURST
Originally Posted by VitoCahill
Is there any evidence yet that bongiovanni had connections to the Mafia in Buffalo.
And the violi bros arrest in project otremens is significant but all based in Hamilton Ontario not Buffalo. I have never doubted the existence of Mafia groups in Hamilton.


Let's apply that to Hamilton before the Violo's what was the last major mafia event?

The Mustiano's going to jail?
Was that in 1997?



The Musitanos, I believe were arrested in 1998, when the hitman they used ended up rattling on them. You have to wonder what would of came of them, if they murdered Ken Murdock, after he killed Papalia and Barrillaro?

I have been speaking with people in Ontario, since the death of Rizzuto, and by March of 2014, the faint mention of Buffalo was already being spoken. Then as if by magic, people start to get killed, as well as people start mentioning Buffalo.

Basically, I started hearing about Buffalo, right before Frank Papalia died.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hami...-rock-of-hamilton-mafia-family-1.2615254

I still find it confusing lol

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