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Re: Mafia Books [Re: dsd] #994641
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Originally Posted by dsd

^^^^. that's a great starter book.

Reading, THE BROTHERHOODS, at the moment.
It says the NYPD had a squad; SLATS. safes, lofts and trucks. I get 2 of them but what's the LOFT part about?


Businesses would store goods in lofts so thieves would break in a steal them.

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I am reading the Brotherhoods too. Read the Kindle book, The Columbo's thought it was 1 of the best Mafia books I read. Read the new book , I got a monster by Baynard Woods, Good book about Baltimore p.d. corruption. reread Joe Dogs, and the Family Secrets by Jeff Coen and Line of blood , Akindle book on Murder inc, All very good.

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^^^^^. Good book.

just read the bit in THE BROTHERHOODS where it says that Gaspipes failed assassin Hydell murdered a made guy called Jack D'angelo in 1986.
That wouldn't be the guy from Gravanos crew would it?
Murdered around that time says UNDERBOSS book.
Had a rat son

Anyone read MAFIA COP by Eppolitto?
I couldn't believe the passages mentioned in brotherhood's.
Psycho cop more like.

*** Never knew Dan Marino's real name is Corrado.



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Re: Mafia Books [Re: jjpuppet] #994741
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Originally Posted by jjpuppet
I am reading the Brotherhoods too. Read the Kindle book, [[u]b]The Columbo's thought it was 1 of the[/u] best Mafia books I[/b] read. Read the new book , I got a monster by Baynard Woods, Good book about Baltimore p.d. corruption. reread Joe Dogs, and the Family Secrets by Jeff Coen and Line of blood , Akindle book on Murder inc, All very good.


The Colombo book,is it the one with a plain green(??) cover?
I only get my books from 1 site and they haven't got any second hand copies. I checked a week ago.
Does it have good info on the pre 90's?
As there's a lot of info post 80s already.
@pmac, mentioned that Colombo family site recently, I checked it out and just the Tommy Shots page was half a book. Good stuff, can't believe how active that crew was

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Re: Mafia Books [Re: dsd] #994787
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Yes, Its a detailed history of the family. Very well written. Read the book Mafia made, was a decent read but if I would guess the authors full of shit. He makes himself out as the super gangster.

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What's the specific title and author's name of the Colombo book?

Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #994893
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Here are some books that i've read these past weeks :

- The Life by Larry Mazza : I was reluctant to read it because his story is so well known but i was pleasantly suprised. I thought the book gave a pretty interesting account of the Scarpa crew and the Persico/Orena war.

- The Mafia hitman's daughter by Linda Scarpa : I read it in order to complete the Scarpa story but it wasn't worth it. There's nothing really new or interesting.

- La Mafia non lascia tempo by Gaspare Mutolo : it's the story of famous sicilian informant Gaspare Mutolo (made guy in one of the Palermo families and a one time close associate of Toto Riina). It was a good read but i wish he 'd have talked more about his day to day life within his family. He covers a lot of subject, especially the links between Cosa Nostra and Italian politics. He was the first informant to give a detailed testimony on that matter. He also talked about his business with the Gambino family (The FBI actually brought him to America to testify against John Gambino).

- Rat Bastards by John Shea : Shea was a mid-level member of the Boston Irish Mob. He was running a big drug network for Whitey Bulger and the Winter Hill Gang. It's your typical South Boston story. It's rather similar to other southie mob books (Kevin Weeks, Eddie Mackenzie, Pat Nee...) except Shea was the only Bulger's lieutenant not to turn informant. He talks about his life in jail where he befriended Ray Patriarca Jr and Carmen Tortora.

- Repenti by Claude Chossat : Chossat is the first ever Mafia informant in France. He was the enforcer of one of the main Bosses of the Corsican Mafia and when he became an informant, the French justice, for the first time, had to create some sort of Witness protection program. So he is kind of the French Joe Valachi or Tommaso Buscetta if you will, because he made the French public and authorities realized the extent and the power of the Corsican Mafia. His book, which was published last year, is a detailed account of the way the main Corsican criminal clan operate and control legal and illegal businesses in Paris, Marseille, the French Riviera and Africa.

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Columbo family by Petepiece

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Originally Posted by jjpuppet
Columbo family by Petepiece


Just downloaded this to my kindle for 7 bucks.
The hard copy goes for $20

Plan on starting it this week after finishing the last few chapters of “Double Cross” the Giancanna Book.

Thanks J


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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #1000050
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Bill O'Reilly is coming out with his book in May 2021.

https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Mob-Against-Organized-OReillys/dp/125027365X
Killing the Mob: The Fight Against Organized Crime in America

Re: Mafia Books [Re: Njein] #1000211
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Originally Posted by Njein
Bill O'Reilly is coming out with his book in May 2021.

https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Mob-Against-Organized-OReillys/dp/125027365X
Killing the Mob: The Fight Against Organized Crime in America


O' Reilly , the fox moron?? Surely not him, is it?


Just starting on Lance's Deal with the devil book.
But in the first 10 pages he keeps saying Valachi was under Bonnano.
I think they were both with Maranzano at first.
But I thought Valachi was in the Genovese's

Also few pages later says Scarpa was a captain by 1961.
Wiki says born 1928. So very young if true. I'm dubious.
Too be fair ,the author does cast doubt on this.
In the Mafia son book, doesn't it say some Scappy guy is his capo

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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted by DuesPaid
Just downloaded the Double Cross ( Sam Giancanna) - its on deck once I finish The Chin.

I’m about 70% through The Chin so its wrapping up.


Nothing new in the Gigante book that would make it worth seeking out, right? Covers common ground and is basically like a load of old newspaper articles rehashed and extended into a book, yes?


Exactly what I thought of the book. It's an interview with his priest brother and general information. You'd do better reading this site. Although I think that of a lot of mob books.
Still,I read it quickly and thought it was ok . Wish it had more on his administration and capos . Virtually zilch.

OT: how do you qoute 1 reply not the others?
Like here, how can I qoute Moe but not Dues?

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Re: Mafia Books [Re: dsd] #1000228
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Originally Posted by dsd
Originally Posted by Njein
Bill O'Reilly is coming out with his book in May 2021.

https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Mob-Against-Organized-OReillys/dp/125027365X
Killing the Mob: The Fight Against Organized Crime in America


O' Reilly , the fox moron?? Surely not him, is it?


Just starting on Lance's Deal with the devil book.
But in the first 10 pages he keeps saying Valachi was under Bonnano.
I think they were both with Maranzano at first.
But I thought Valachi was in the Genovese's

Also few pages later says Scarpa was a captain by 1961.
Wiki says born 1928. So very young if true. I'm dubious.
Too be fair ,the author does cast doubt on this.
In the Mafia son book, doesn't it say some Scappy guy is his capo


IIRC, Valachi said he was made by Joe Bonanno, but then he ended up in the Reina (Lucchese) family. Pretty sure at some point he switched to Maranzano, then when Maranzano was killed Genovese took him in.

From what I remember by reading Scarpa's FBI files, the Colombo's went through a lot of leadership shuffles in the 60s and Scarpa was a captain at one point. Pretty sure he was a soldier direct with Colombo for a while too. That's all according to Scarpa though. Scappy didn't become a captain until Persico's reign.

The Deal with the Devil book is good, a lot of information. But the author does make it seem like Scarpa was behind everything.

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Reading Made Men , the Decav book. It's very good so far, but who is
JOEY SMASH, apparently he was a fearsome gambino guy. Known as the " ugly guy" behind his back it says.
Nothing came up on a web search.

Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #1000335
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I take it no such person as Joey Smash in the 1990's gambinos?

Someone on this board would know if it was an actual .member.

It's on p44 of the Smith Decav book

Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #1000519
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Reading Mobfather by George Anastasia. Very good so far.

It couldn't be any more obvious that John Stanfa was in on the Angelo Bruno whacking. Book theorizes that Frank Sindone was the triggerman.

It's honestly hard to keep up with that era of LCN history in Philadelphia. So much deception and backstabbing among the bosses, underbosses, consiglieres and capos. Even the subject of the book, Tommy Del Giorno, crawled over bodies to get to capo.


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Re: Mafia Books [Re: Turi Giuliano] #1000793
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Just finishing up Cantalupo's book..

I find most is probably authentic, but...

He seems likes a nice guy in those old videos right ?? But who brags about robbing a woman's estate who just died, leaving her kids with nothing towards her funeral expenses...At least he admitted it, but then added that he had no remorse stealing the money

I remember him being on Geraldo many years back, he had a sense of humor and was making the audience laugh and Geraldo said, lets not forget the crimes he's confessed too...Back the when I was a kid, I said Geraldo's no f*****g good, puerto rican/jew hating italians ...but looking back on it, he was right...Cantalupo hurt a lot of innocent italians and then whined when he got treated the same way by made guys

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Originally Posted by Malavita
Here are some books that i've read these past weeks :

- The Life by Larry Mazza : I was reluctant to read it because his story is so well known but i was pleasantly suprised. I thought the book gave a pretty interesting account of the Scarpa crew and the Persico/Orena war.



With shipping and handling they want like $40 for a nobody, who, just like you said, will be repeating most of what we already know...

I don't like politics, but Obama's book is cheaper...

No thanks...I'll wait for it to hit the thrift shop book store..Can find good books there guy's for cheap prices

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Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
Just finishing up Cantalupo's book..

I find most is probably authentic, but...

He seems likes a nice guy in those old videos right ?? But who brags about robbing a woman's estate who just died, leaving her kids with nothing towards her funeral expenses...At least he admitted it, but then added that he had no remorse stealing the money

I remember him being on Geraldo many years back, he had a sense of humor and was making the audience laugh and Geraldo said, lets not forget the crimes he's confessed too...Back the when I was a kid, I said Geraldo's no f*****g good, puerto rican/jew hating italians ...but looking back on it, he was right...Cantalupo hurt a lot of innocent italians and then whined when he got treated the same way by made guys


These people completely lack empathy. They may possess surface level charm, they might buy you a drink or crack a joke with you, but make no mistake - they have no remorse about the pain they put other people through, whether they're in the life or not, if they have something they want and feel they can hustle.

Nick Caramandi could talk the hindlegs off a donkey as well but he talked about driving a pharmacist he scammed into committing suicide as if it was a hysterical joke.

Right now I'm reading Mobfather by George Anastasia and Anastasia completely glosses over the fact that Nicky Scarfo and two others provoked a fight with a longshoreman and stabbed him to death over nothing. Don't get me wrong, he talks about how much of a renegade Scarfo was and how fundamental this was in Scarfo being "banished" to Atlantic City, but you'd almost swear the person he killed was just another criminal and not an innocent civilian.


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I have both book's & happily return to them from time 2 time..but Blood & Honor is my fav...Caramandi is a good storyteller..it's like ur sitting on a barstool next 2 him.


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Read a philly mob book years back & there was quotes from leonetti being exposed for wanting salvie dead just as bad as scarfo wanted em dead, can’t remember the title for the life of me, help me out fellas

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Originally Posted by Kese123
Read a philly mob book years back & there was quotes from leonetti being exposed for wanting salvie dead just as bad as scarfo wanted em dead, can’t remember the title for the life of me, help me out fellas

Philip didn't want Salvie gone...ppl. misunderstand him when he said that Salvie made him "sick" when he was around him b-4 he got hit....Philip was "sick" b-cause , it was Salvie who close to him.....& the fact that he could not do anything about the hit....which made him more "sick"...after the hit , Philip's mother Nancy (Scarfo's sister) badgered Phil about how he (Phil) could have let this happen...Salvie's death was the seed that brought that whole regime down...everyone was putting their antenna's up & knew that if Scarfo could hit Salvie , he could hit any one of his own ppl.


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i personally agree with you & thank you the clarification. know the title of the book im referring too? its been awhile since i read it otherwise id provide more detail... want to get back up with reading all the philly books during the holidays

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Originally Posted by Kese123
i personally agree with you & thank you the clarification. know the title of the book im referring too? its been awhile since i read it otherwise id provide more detail... want to get back up with reading all the philly books during the holidays

Maybe "Blood & Honor" ?...I have a milllion books about the Scarfo regime so I can't pinpoint it 4 u....also maybe a book written by former FED & since passed away Frank Friel...cant remember the title of the book but alot of it centered on Salvies demise...Bringing Down the Mob I think it was...,There is very , VERY knowledgeable poster on here named Serpiente who might b able 2 help u more...cheers..


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yes, I have read VINITTA. it was very good at describing early Italian organized crime in DETROIT and its evolution into LCN. it's well worth a read.

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Re reading Blum's Gangland book about Gotti/FBI.
There's a part with the P . Rican woman informant Easter.
Sets up a diamond robbery with her lover . A guy who " is bigger than Mr D' Amico"
"A capo, one of John's closet goombata""

You think it's that guy called Handsome Jack Gio*******(?)

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Good morning. I am new here, but I just finished the book "The Butcher: Anatomy of a Mafia Psychopath" by Phillip Carlo.
About Tommy "Karate" Pitera.
This was a great read, very captivating - how true to life was the story? Anyone here have details? Thanks.

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Cosa Nostra News: The Cicale Files, Vol. 1: Inside the Last Great Mafia Empire by Dominick Cicale


Anyone read this? Cicale is annoying though

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Originally Posted by MonsterUSMC
Good morning. I am new here, but I just finished the book "The Butcher: Anatomy of a Mafia Psychopath" by Phillip Carlo.
About Tommy "Karate" Pitera.
This was a great read, very captivating - how true to life was the story? Anyone here have details? Thanks.


I think the constant high pitched voice allegations was bullshit. I read Carlo was upset because Pitera wouldn't co operate.

His book on gaspipe is also decent.
The iceman book is fantasy, can't believe that kuklinski has had a book, big budget movie and a whole load of TV crap about him.

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