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Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: Louiebynochi] #1003227
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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Barry Nichols...John Riggi and Chin Gigante had beef cause of the laborers union,that’s why they wouldn’t let they’re people do the hit....John riggi and his people were beefing w Mike Lorello,Frankie Lupo and Jimmy from Elizabeth Street

Good info Louie

Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: alicecooper] #1003233
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A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: alicecooper] #1003253
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John Pennisi mentions Barry in his podcast. He mentions a meeting with the west side in coney island.

Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: alicecooper] #1003289
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You won’t get a better YouTube channel with first hand experiences of organised crime right now, he’s just dropped his memories on Roy demeo...

People were screaming out for this exact thing here for years - Sammy the Bull talking like this - it happens, and I can’t believe some people are now questioning either how good it is, or how can we prove what he’s saying etc etc....ffs, just enjoy it for what it is...true crime recollections from a guy that was there..

This isn’t physics we’re dealing with where it’s a binary yes/no answer to every story you’ve ever heard...the guy obviously isn’t a bullshitter.

I think we are lucky (as OC interested people) to have this information directly from him. It’s never happened before...

Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: alicecooper] #1003293
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A lot of these stories are in Gravanos FBI 302s...


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: alicecooper] #1003294
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The Demeo story about the old people was in Gravano’s book. Other than that he didn’t mention anything we didn’t already know. Although I did laugh when he said Roy asked him to work out in the club while their captains were talking business

Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: alicecooper] #1003296
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Loving his channel, realy enjoyable. Feels totally bullshit free as well. How sincere he sounded on how weary he was of Demeo.

Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: alicecooper] #1003310
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If you had told me even a year ago this would be happening, I would’ve thought you were crazy...

People get used to good things very quickly, then start to disregard them...human nature

Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: alicecooper] #1003325
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That story about Demeo and his crew picking random guys off the street to kill and dismember them just to "keep the crew sharp" really took me aback. What a scumbag

Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: alicecooper] #1003327
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That was shocking

Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: TheKillingJoke] #1003328
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Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
That story about Demeo and his crew picking random guys off the street to kill and dismember them just to "keep the crew sharp" really took me aback. What a scumbag

There was also a story in Albert Demeo’s book that the crew went on a hunting trip upstate and as they were driving just shot a bunch of cows so yeah they they seemed to enjoy killing anything

Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: alicecooper] #1003332
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I think that was the twins with a full auto and roy had to pay off the farmer who owned the cows. One of the feds said that Castellano had nothing to worry about with Demeo ratting. They would never had made a deal with someone that sick. Fast forward six years and they give Gravano the deal of a lifetime. 20 vs 200 is still 20 more people that should be killed. The feds make up their own rules. The justice f system needs reform. Eye for an eye shit, public executions!

Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: alicecooper] #1003337
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1 thing i caught in gravanos new demeo video was when him in demeo where in jimmy browns club talking about the weights sammy says jimmy brown was a serious capo a heavy guy thats a 180 from all the personal shit sammy was talking about him in his book he wrote in 1996. he was talking alot of shit about jimmy brown more then anyone else in that book. i found out threw reading in the last few years jimmy brown was full boat going to kill sammy whole crew after he flipped and only gooti sr, stopped him so im guessing that all got back to sammy from informants or agents so he talked all that shit in the book about him. jimmy brown also went to gotti and gotti sided with brown when sammy was trying to get into his garbage racket

Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: alicecooper] #1003352
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Gravano didn't praise Jimmy Brown, he said he was a serious captain...which is the truth

Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: alicecooper] #1003364
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I've read sammy's book, all his 302 and everything in between. So far his YT vids are just regurgitating old stories with maybe a few tidbits extra. He's not as bad as Franzese who only speaks in generalities. But he's not giving us those gold nuggets we crave. We need an experienced mob buff asking him questions.

Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: alicecooper] #1003365
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He puts the Alite and Franzese to shame. They should pack up and go home. Franzese is critiquing mob movies and all his religious bs. Best bumper sticker ever. Born right the first time. And Alite the international gangster with his suits and cigars.

Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: blueracing347] #1003370
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Sammy's definitely the best storyteller out of the three. Franzese is a good speaker, but he doesn't know how to craft an interesting story and he barely provides anything.
Alite is just painful and even if he used to be a legit street guy in his videos comes across as a local wannabe actor who wants to get roles in B-grade low budget gangster flicks. He provides even less than Franzese does and the fact that he cliqued up with a wife-beating junkie bum like Borrello tells you all you need to know.

Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: alicecooper] #1003373
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Anyone know if he has discussed the details of how he lent the Bonannos usage of his club for the Three capo murders?

I haven’t listened to all of them yet and his topic for each video is vague

Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: alicecooper] #1003376
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@ItalianIrishMix. No not yet that I’m aware of. Most of the stories have been from his book although he goes into a bit more detail on them.

Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: TheKillingJoke] #1003382
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Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
Sammy's definitely the best storyteller out of the three. Franzese is a good speaker, but he doesn't know how to craft an interesting story and he barely provides anything.


I agree...Gravano is by far the best of them and the only one I subscribe too...Every video of his is intriguing...You almost know what Franzese is gonna say every video...He was the biggest money maker, he only got involved because of his father, his brother's a junkie, and of course, trying constantly to convince people he's not a rat, which a lot of suckers believe !!

Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: alicecooper] #1003387
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Which one does he talks about the big Paul hit?

Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: DiLorenzo] #1003388
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Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
[quote=TheKillingJoke]You almost know what Franzese is gonna say every video...He was the biggest money maker, he only got involved because of his father, his brother's a junkie, and of course, trying constantly to convince people he's not a rat, which a lot of suckers believe !!


Yep, that's Franzese's content in a nutshell.

The DJ Vlad interviews with Franzese are the absolute worst though. That Vlad guy is so clueless, it's comical. Almost like he's doing it on purpose.
"So a captain is above a capo, right?" Lol gtfo

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Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: alicecooper] #1003421
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Lol...What a great job of doing research before an interview !!

Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: TheKillingJoke] #1003427
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Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
That story about Demeo and his crew picking random guys off the street to kill and dismember them just to "keep the crew sharp" really took me aback. What a scumbag


Does anyone really believe that? These guys were evil enough without needing to make up stories like that.


I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: Moe_Tilden] #1003429
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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
That story about Demeo and his crew picking random guys off the street to kill and dismember them just to "keep the crew sharp" really took me aback. What a scumbag


Does anyone really believe that? These guys were evil enough without needing to make up stories like that.


I don't know if its true or not but that ex fbi agent, Ruffles said Demeo killed a lot of innocent people !!

Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: alicecooper] #1003717
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Another good video from Gravano today...

Even though it can be argued that he wasn't made when that Westchester scam went down...Gambino was still alive then, no ?? Gravano wasn't made till Castelanno was boss, right ??

Anyway's, its probably 90% accurate and again, more intriguing and a different story every day then a Franzese..

Btw, even if Fratianno was a stool pigeon, he's one of the best interviews there was...Just like you are Sammy


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Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: DiLorenzo] #1003723
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Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
Another good video from Gravano today...

Even though it can be argued that he wasn't made when that Westchester scam went down...Gambino was still alive then, no ?? Gravano wasn't made till Castelanno was boss, right ??

Anyway's, its probably 90% accurate and again, more intriguing and a different story every day then a Franzese..

Btw, even if Fratianno was a stool pigeon, he's one of the best interviews there was...Just like you are Sammy


Carlo died in October. Sammy was made after that in 76. Theater didn't go bankrupt until 77 so it's possible

Re: Sammy the Bull's new YouTube channel [Re: alicecooper] #1003728
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The trial for the Westchester Premier Theater was in late 78. Fratianno only had a year run as acting Boss. It's possible.

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