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Re: The alleged Jr Gotti proffer [Re: ColonelReb] #995484
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Originally Posted by ColonelReb
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Also after watching the new Johnny and Gene Show and see Alite start choking up over a 19 yr old that was just killed in a drive bye and talk about the need for More police especially in the inner cities. It dawns on me that alite has really turned his life around and truly is trying to make a difference in these kids lives vs Junior Gotti who has a even bigger platform and is also a father and instead of really trying to help kids stay away from that life and the evil and heartbreak that comes w it but instead just glorifys his days in the mob and his father ..it really dawns on me that Junior is just a murderous drug dealing scumbag who lives off blood money and murdered an innocent kid and should be in prison for the rest of his life


Ha. That's a laugh. He still revels in guests talking about what a wild killer he was and how wiseguys closed their windows and boarded up their clubs when he came to the neighborhood. Watch the episode featuring guest HOOTIE. Delusional at best.


And besides that the fact that wise guys who are supposed to be so tough boarded up they’re clubs and hid from one man should tell you how pussy and how fake these so called “men” of honor really are Atleast most of them..the real ones wouldn’t have done that. Becuase the real ones and alite had mutual respect for each other ..Vito Guzzo wouldn’t do that..John Gotti Sr wouldn’t have done that ..Chin wouldn’t have done that..but these pussy bullies who hid behind they’re “badge”did ..time and time again..they must have heard the song “the bitch in yoo” and related to it haha

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A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: The alleged Jr Gotti proffer [Re: Lenox] #995489
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Alite should concentrate on helping kids rather than constantly talking about how tough he was and how many times he beat guys with bats. Im sure the mother and the fathers of the kids Alite is supposedly helping dont want to hear that nonsense.
He talks more about fighting than 100 pro boxers put together. Why ?????
He should end the bullshit and focus on helping kids, they dont need to hear about him sneaking up on drug addicts and beating them with pipes or bats or stabbing a guy in the throat at a night club. What does that even prove anyway? Why does he always find a way to make a dig at Gotti Jr, they havent been friends for almost 30 years.
Im not saying he wasnt a tough kid but so were thousands of others. I do think he is sincere about helping kids so i give him credit.

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Re: The alleged Jr Gotti proffer [Re: Lenox] #995490
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At the end of the day both Alite and Gotti jr are liars in some form. Both have been caught in lies. I don’t like either guy. However if I had to choose which guy was tougher it’s Alite for sure

Re: The alleged Jr Gotti proffer [Re: JCrusher] #995491
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Originally Posted by JCrusher
At the end of the day both Alite and Gotti jr are liars in some form. Both have been caught in lies. I don’t like either guy. However if I had to choose which guy was tougher it’s Alite for sure


How do you know he was tougher? Based on what? Was he a golden gloves or amateur boxer who actually faught against legitimate boxers?
Was he a wrestler? What legitimate fighters did he fight? Im just curious. You are basing his toughness on guys he abused that might not of been fighters.
Im not saying Jr Gotti did, he didnt. But you mentioned Alite, thats why I ask.

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Re: The alleged Jr Gotti proffer [Re: Lenox] #995492
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Originally Posted by Lenox
Originally Posted by JCrusher
At the end of the day both Alite and Gotti jr are liars in some form. Both have been caught in lies. I don’t like either guy. However if I had to choose which guy was tougher it’s Alite for sure


How do you know he was tougher? Based on what? Was he a golden gloves or amateur boxer who actually faught against legitimate boxers?
Was he a wrestler? What legitimate fighters did he fight? Im just curious. You are basing his toughness on guys he abused that might not of been fighters.
Im not saying Jr Gotti did, he didnt. But you mentioned Alite, thats why I ask


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Had a feeling you would say that 😂 This is my personal opinion. If you don’t like it that fine I could care less

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Re: The alleged Jr Gotti proffer [Re: Lenox] #995494
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I understand its your opinion but i just think its strange that Alite constantly talks about how tough he was while a pro boxer , mma fighter, or wrestler never mention anything about how tough they were or how feared they were.
Again, im not saying Gotti jr was tough either.. where are Gotti jrs credentials??? Im just making a point, that is all.
I will say this , you dont do weeks or months in witsec without some form of toughness and you dont spend time in a brazilian prison without some toughness. No doubt about it.

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Re: The alleged Jr Gotti proffer [Re: Lenox] #995497
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Originally Posted by Lenox
I understand its your opinion but i just think its strange that Alite constantly talks about how tough he was while a pro boxer , mma fighter, or wrestler never mention anything about how tough they were or how feared they were.
Again, im not saying Gotti jr was tough either.. where are Gotti jrs credentials??? Im just making a point, that is all.
I will say this , you dont do weeks or months in witsec without some form of toughness and you dont spend time in a brazilian prison without some toughness. No doubt about it.



Or get into a bar fight where it’s you against 3 people and 1 you stab in the throat and the other 2 you smash them in the face w glass


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: The alleged Jr Gotti proffer [Re: Lenox] #995498
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Originally Posted by Lenox
I understand its your opinion but i just think its strange that Alite constantly talks about how tough he was while a pro boxer , mma fighter, or wrestler never mention anything about how tough they were or how feared they were.
Again, im not saying Gotti jr was tough either.. where are Gotti jrs credentials??? Im just making a point, that is all.
I will say this , you dont do weeks or months in witsec without some form of toughness and you dont spend time in a brazilian prison without some toughness. No doubt about it.

Originally Posted by Lenox
I understand its your opinion but i just think its strange that Alite constantly talks about how tough he was while a pro boxer , mma fighter, or wrestler never mention anything about how tough they were or how feared they were.
Again, im not saying Gotti jr was tough either.. where are Gotti jrs credentials??? Im just making a point, that is all.
I will say this , you dont do weeks or months in witsec without some form of toughness and you dont spend time in a brazilian prison without some toughness. No doubt about it.

It’s not like I’m praising Alite lol. I do t like either guy but all the research I’ve done and heard Alite was a legit tough guy.

Re: The alleged Jr Gotti proffer [Re: Lenox] #995499
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i know he fought Lou A. ( genovese associate) in i think fairton.
i forget the circumstances. Aliite may have been asked by Charlie C to do it.. I forget, but i remember someone telling me. it was in the 90's.

Re: The alleged Jr Gotti proffer [Re: Louiebynochi] #995500
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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Gotti jr is afraid of alite. Back in the 80s junior had the Gambino family behind him That’s why now when it’s just him he calls the cops


Yup...Alite is walking around the streets of Queens mocking Junior and the best Junior can do is troll him on YouTube...He's pathetic

Most of what Alite says is laughable but he's no different then any other rats out there like Franzese etc..They're trying to make a buck !!

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Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Gotti jr is afraid of alite. Back in the 80s junior had the Gambino family behind him That’s why now when it’s just him he calls the cops


Yup...Alite is walking around the streets of Queens mocking Junior and the best Junior can do is troll him on YouTube...He's pathetic

Most of what Alite says is laughable but he's no different then any other rats out there like Franzese etc..They're trying to make a buck !!


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Gotti jr is 56 years old. Whats he supposed to do, challenge Alite to a street fight!! Its ridiculous.Gotti jr basically ignores it and seldom mentions Alite. You are saying a 56 or 57 year old man is afraid of Alite because he wont fight him. Thats actually funny.
If he was in the life that would be different but he is not. He is at home with his wife and children. What do you think the feds would do if Gotti jr attacked or threatened Alite . They would be all over Gotti jr. However, Alite is basically a protected witness and the fbi probably likes that Alite is egging Jr on.

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Originally Posted by Lenox
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Gotti jr is afraid of alite. Back in the 80s junior had the Gambino family behind him That’s why now when it’s just him he calls the cops


Yup...Alite is walking around the streets of Queens mocking Junior and the best Junior can do is troll him on YouTube...He's pathetic

Most of what Alite says is laughable but he's no different then any other rats out there like Franzese etc..They're trying to make a buck !!


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Gotti jr is 56 years old. Whats he supposed to do, challenge Alite to a street fight!! Its ridiculous.
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Less ridiculous then going on YouTube like a 16 year old and having a cat fight, or making a website to bad mouth the guy !!

I wish I could says that's funny !!

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Originally Posted by Lenox
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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Gotti jr is afraid of alite. Back in the 80s junior had the Gambino family behind him That’s why now when it’s just him he calls the cops


Yup...Alite is walking around the streets of Queens mocking Junior and the best Junior can do is troll him on YouTube...He's pathetic

Most of what Alite says is laughable but he's no different then any other rats out there like Franzese etc..They're trying to make a buck !!


DiLorenzo
Gotti jr is 56 years old. Whats he supposed to do, challenge Alite to a street fight!! Its ridiculous.Gotti jr basically ignores it and seldom mentions Alite. You are saying a 56 or 57 year old man is afraid of Alite because he wont fight him. Thats actually funny.
If he was in the life that would be different but he is not. He is at home with his wife and children. What do you think the feds would do if Gotti jr attacked or threatened Alite . They would be all over Gotti jr. However, Alite is basically a protected witness and the fbi probably likes that Alite is egging Jr on.
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The FBI is probably working with both of them still. They hate Gotti... I wouldn’t put anything past FBI.

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Gotti was screaming at his underlings to fix his hair, he was crying uncontrollably...

Junior: My father was soldier who couldn't cry till he came home lol

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Junior in his book:my father wasn’t racist
...que the gotti Sr prison tapes


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Junior in his book:my father wasn’t racist
...que the gotti Sr prison tapes

Agreed. He also claims his father despised the selling of drugs despite the fact that his crew was selling which he knew about and was profiting from. I think my favorite is that Junior claims his father Personally killed McBratney even though it has long Been proven it was Ralph Galione who shot him

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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Not sure how he “reveled” in it. Cause he smiled..and he literally followed that up with that “they were younger and that was just they’re perception of him” ..the Jr gotti fan boys are ridiculous..maybe if Danny Silva was your son or your brother you would feel different ..alite spent his entire life in the mob..it’s what he’s known for and he may get a kick out of the stories but that has nothing to do w his genuine desire to help kids..name me one thing Jr gotti has done for kids? As Jr gotti tells Steve Croft “you like the way la cosa nostra flows off your tounge”. Jr Gotti was just a spoiled rich kid who went to the same millitary school as Donald Trump..like Anthony Ruggiano said “one day jr is in his little millitary uniform , standing at attention, the next day I’m at a party and suddenly he’s a Wiseguy”

I didn't say a word About Jr Gotti in my post. Not sure why you felt the need to go on that tirade instead of just defend Alite. I watch all the Johnny and Gene Show Podcasts. I don't buy their "Help the Kids" schtick. That story about Alite recently going to a club, dude slapping him and him jumping in a creek to hide from the guys after he called the cops and his son to come get him was hilarious though.

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Re: The alleged Jr Gotti proffer [Re: JCrusher] #995615
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Originally Posted by JCrusher
Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Junior in his book:my father wasn’t racist
...que the gotti Sr prison tapes

Agreed. He also claims his father despised the selling of drugs despite the fact that his crew was selling which he knew about and was profiting from. I think my favorite is that Junior claims his father Personally killed McBratney even though it has long Been proven it was Ralph Galione who shot him


Remember when he said he was gonna write children's books ?? Lol..This guy's a terrible liar !!

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Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
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Junior in his book:my father wasn’t racist
...que the gotti Sr prison tapes

Agreed. He also claims his father despised the selling of drugs despite the fact that his crew was selling which he knew about and was profiting from. I think my favorite is that Junior claims his father Personally killed McBratney even though it has long Been proven it was Ralph Galione who shot him


Remember when he said he was gonna write children's books ?? Lol..This guy's a terrible liar !!


I think Junior's book may have the Guinness record for amount of lies. It's just a whitewash from start to finish. Not saying rats like Alite are always truthful but the people with the most to lose usually lie a lot more. Gotti Sr was most certainly a fucking racist and he was fully aware of what Ange and Gene were doing too. I think Junior even went as far as to say that Gene had nothing to do with heroin trafficking lol They had the motherfuckers on tape

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Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
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Originally Posted by JCrusher
Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Junior in his book:my father wasn’t racist
...que the gotti Sr prison tapes

Agreed. He also claims his father despised the selling of drugs despite the fact that his crew was selling which he knew about and was profiting from. I think my favorite is that Junior claims his father Personally killed McBratney even though it has long Been proven it was Ralph Galione who shot him


Remember when he said he was gonna write children's books ?? Lol..This guy's a terrible liar !!


I think Junior's book may have the Guinness record for amount of lies. It's just a whitewash from start to finish. Not saying rats like Alite are always truthful but the people with the most to lose usually lie a lot more. Gotti Sr was most certainly a fucking racist and he was fully aware of what Ange and Gene were doing too. I think Junior even went as far as to say that Gene had nothing to do with heroin trafficking lol They had the motherfuckers on tape

Agreed.

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