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Re: Pat Musitano dead [Re: VitoCahill] #993708
07/12/20 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by VitoCahill
so i guess the luppino/violi r the #1 mafia group in hamilton as of now.


They've always been.


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Re: Pat Musitano dead [Re: Johnny_Pops] #993711
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Murdered mob boss Pat Musitano symbolized Ontario's Mafia with his gangster chic — and the mayhem that shadowed him

https://www.capebretonpost.com/news...and-the-mayhem-that-shadowed-him-472463/


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Re: Pat Musitano dead [Re: Johnny_Pops] #993713
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Anyone hear BS about Papalia from undercovers, like Sam Moore in Hamilton, guy used to be a Vice cop. He married a relative of a Speziale from Railway. Goes around spreading lies, and putting people in situations where they gotta make up lies to get people killed.

Guys like this help create these scenarios and are expecting a promotion or drug money? Or both lol


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Re: Pat Musitano dead [Re: Johnny_Pops] #993714
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Molochiolndiced, what are you going on about? What BS about Papalia? Are you talking about Johnny Pops? Are talking about the current Papalia family with Patrick "Nick" Papalia being Frank Bifulco favorite guy up in Canada? About the Papalia family being mad on a number of issues with the Musitano family and Buffalo. Joe Todaro Sr died so most of the beef they had with Buffalo died with Todaro. They were still mad about Johnny pops being killed by the Musitanos. They were in agreement with the Luppinos although Violi also was displeased with the Musitanos doing more business with the Sicilians in GTA. They were mad that the Musitanos pulled the rug from out under them in a multi million project. All of which is true. So again what BS are you talking about?


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Re: Pat Musitano dead [Re: Johnny_Pops] #993738
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‘Things are right up close, personal.’ Pat Musitano’s hitman shares tales of working for Hamilton mobster

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...of-working-for-the-hamilton-mobster.html

Re: Pat Musitano dead [Re: Giacomo_Vacari] #993743
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Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Molochiolndiced, what are you going on about? What BS about Papalia? Are you talking about Johnny Pops? Are talking about the current Papalia family with Patrick "Nick" Papalia being Frank Bifulco favorite guy up in Canada? About the Papalia family being mad on a number of issues with the Musitano family and Buffalo. Joe Todaro Sr died so most of the beef they had with Buffalo died with Todaro. They were still mad about Johnny pops being killed by the Musitanos. They were in agreement with the Luppinos although Violi also was displeased with the Musitanos doing more business with the Sicilians in GTA. They were mad that the Musitanos pulled the rug from out under them in a multi million project. All of which is true. So again what BS are you talking about?


None of that stuff, which all seems true. Ask that loser cop if you know him, and all his pussy buddies. See how guys like that fit into to all the stuff that has gone down in Hamilton since 2014, involving everyone around there.

Not implying anyone Papalia, Violi/Luppino are a Narc, just that people like that cop will say or make up anything for a dollar or a promotion.

They are an invisible part of business that never gets mentioned and are free to fan the flames and are never held responsible for the problems they start. Cops are a gang unto themselves, the worst of all IMO.

I apologize if it seemed I was implying anyone was somehow working with LE.

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Re: Pat Musitano dead [Re: Johnny_Pops] #993773
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Has Musitano family saga reached its end?
With the death of Pat Musitano, a chapter of the city’s colourful, criminal past may be over

https://www.pressreader.com/canada/the-hamilton-spectator/20200713/281552293157819

Re: Pat Musitano dead [Re: Johnny_Pops] #993776
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Pat Musitano killing opens the door for turnover in Hamilton Mafia underworld, expert says

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...milton-mafia-underworld-expert-says.html

Re: Pat Musitano dead [Re: Johnny_Pops] #993784
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Mafia experts say Burlington, Ont., shooting death of Hamilton’s Musitano ‘not suprising’

https://globalnews.ca/news/7173414/mafia-experts-shooting-of-hamiltons-musitano-not-suprising/

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Re: Pat Musitano dead [Re: Johnny_Pops] #993846
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https://gangsterreport.com/fat-pat-...ontreal-it-ultimately-led-to-his-murder/

Some interesting points here, didn't realize that a Papalia enforcer, Enio Mora, was also whacked back in '97 prior to Papalia. Also didn't know that the Violi brothers and members of the Luppino clan were next on the list. Must have been Fat Pat who arranged the murder of the Luppino son last year along with Iavarone.

Re: Pat Musitano dead [Re: mike68] #993863
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Originally Posted by mike68
Must have been Fat Pat who arranged the murder of the Luppino son last year along with Iavarone.



Had to have been

Re: Pat Musitano dead [Re: dixiemafia] #993888
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Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Originally Posted by mike68
Must have been Fat Pat who arranged the murder of the Luppino son last year along with Iavarone.



Had to have been


About a dozen murders have been linked to this feud, but it's probably more complex than just Musitano vs Luppino/Violi.


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Re: Pat Musitano dead [Re: Johnny_Pops] #993966
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They set pinos house on fire and spray painted the word rat

Re: Pat Musitano dead [Re: Johnny_Pops] #993983
07/17/20 07:21 PM
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What they are saying here is that the word 'rat' was painted on Avignone's garage door and 2 cars set on fire in the driveway. Not suprised really, it was the smart move. If Pino didn't help set up Pat he would be the next one wacked.


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Re: Pat Musitano dead [Re: Bobbybacala] #993997
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Originally Posted by Bobbybacala
They set pinos house on fire and spray painted the word rat


Home of Musitano family member has cars torched, garage painted with the word 'rat'

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/hamilton-police-fire-garage-rat-1.5653226

Re: Pat Musitano dead [Re: Johnny_Pops] #994122
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Canada, a 5-year mafia war
Gioacchino Criaco - 18 July 2020

Thirty deaths in the past five years in the Great Lakes region, Ontario, and from Montreal to Toronto. According to the official reports of the Red Jackets. In parallel, an unofficial relationship would greatly increase the killed victims, and in the murmurs of the underworld the river of the killed would have a longer, broader course. Formally there is, in Canada, a single large family of mafia: a hybrid born as a filiation of our American thing but formed above all by criminals from the province of Reggio Calabria, whose leaders over a century have all become Calabrian as well as the affiliation ceremony. The Canadian mafia is now considered alone 'ndrangheta , a single family with many places where there should be no conflict, and officially no one admits them, no one intends the dead except those accused of having attacked the lives of other affiliates.

But except for a few murders, the origin remains a mystery. Who kills who, and why, if we are all children of the same mother? The last to ask is lying on the lawn of a Burlington parking lot , a stone's throw from Hamilton: Pasquale "Fat Pat" Musitano got out of his armored suv with his trusted men, Pino Avignon and John Clary. He was a big man of 200 kilos, already survived two ambushes, he didn't trust anyone, yet a lone killer screwed him. It came from Aspromonte his blood shed on the ground, like that of Pino Avignone who is in intensive care. Perhaps he is now in the right place to understand the truth, he has reached his brother Angelo, who was also killed three years ago, almost inside the house, by someone who did not seem to be an enemy.

Thousands and thousands of kilometers away and the Aspromontan tragedy followed its bad boys: the art of deception, of attributing blame to those who do not really have it, of bringing others to kill each other considering themselves the victims of ambushes of others, and finally triumph over everyone's stupidity. Decades of murders among the Irish, the Latinos, the Jewish mafia, the motorcycle gangs, all subordinates and customers of the large 'Ndrangheta family. Wars, clarifications and truce, and nobody knows who really re-triggers the slaughter every time. The Musitano as ndrina no longer exist, erased from the plot, they who had erased the Papalia 'ndrina, driven by the same plot. The mafiosi in Canada kill each other, and nobody really knows why, every time they think they have identified the enemy, afterwards, they understand that they have fallen into yet another trap.

It is the strategy of the cuckoo, daughter of the Aspromontan Greece born before the Greek Greece. It is the song of the cuckoo, born long before the song of the goat, the tragedy. Fat Pat Avignone and the many gangsters who preceded him were thrown out of their nest by a bird of prey born from a foreign egg that someone put inside. Only at the end of the slaughter will the mystery be clarified.

https://www.ilriformista.it/canada-una-guerra-di-mafia-lunga-5-anni-132827/


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Re: Pat Musitano dead [Re: Johnny_Pops] #994201
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‘He knew he was a dead man walking’: The final days of Hamilton mobster Pat Musitano

https://www.pressreader.com/canada/toronto-star/20200721/281509343500226

Last edited by antimafia; 07/21/20 11:01 AM. Reason: I've moved my original post to the "Underworld in Ontario (other than GTA)" thread.
Re: Pat Musitano dead [Re: Johnny_Pops] #994261
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Police say man found in wooded lot in east London was victim of homicide

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/human-remains-grant-edward-norton-1.5658987

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Principal of company linked to Pat Musitano found murdered in London

https://www.thespec.com/news/crime/...t-musitano-found-murdered-in-london.html


Business partner of slain mobster Pat Musitano found dead in London

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...r-pat-musitano-found-dead-in-london.html

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Homicide victim reportedly had ties to slain Hamilton mob boss

http://ctv.news/ifpTU8h

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'THE SHARKS ARE CIRCLING': Pat Musitano associate on lam murdered in London, Ont.

https://torontosun.com/news/provinc...associate-on-lam-murdered-in-london-ont/

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Damn they wiping out everybody tied to Pat in Hamilton.

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Fuckin crazy shit but it’s come to
Be expected in Hamilton. So I guess we can say the luppinos/Violi clan is putting in major work
Right now with all these killings?

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London interesting any other mob activity in the city?

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Re: Pat Musitano dead [Re: Johnny_Pops] #994387
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Homicide victim found in London had ties to Pat Musitano, unclear if deaths are related

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hami...o-unclear-if-deaths-are-related-1.565983

Re: Pat Musitano dead [Re: Johnny_Pops] #994416
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Police say they have ‘very solid leads’ in identifying suspects in killing of former business partner of slain mobster Pat Musitano

https://www.thespec.com/ts/news/gta...rtner-of-slain-mobster-pat-musitano.html

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the HA and outlaws mc have chapters in london and there has been claimed an 'ndrangheta 'ndrine in the city but last info came from an initiation ceremont in 1987 i think.

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I'm always amazed at the level of gang wars and struggles for supremacy in Canada. Whether it be Montreal, Toronto, or elsewhere. In this day and age of 2020, they operate like it's 1950s New York or Chicago.

These N'dranghetista are wild. For that matter the Sicilian nationals aren't much better. If this was in the United States the justice department would have cracked down on them much the same as they did in NYC back in the early and mid-1990s during the "Third Colombo War".

And the multitude of factions operating there; Sicilian Mafia, Calabrian N'drangheta, Hells Angels, street gangs, drug gangs, Irish crew, Haitians, etc etc is mind boggling....truly a mixed bag up in Canada.

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Originally Posted by NYMafia
I'm always amazed at the level of gang wars and struggles for supremacy in Canada. Whether it be Montreal, Toronto, or elsewhere. In this day and age of 2020, they operate like it's 1950s New York or Chicago.

These N'dranghetista are wild. For that matter the Sicilian nationals aren't much better. If this was in the United States the justice department would have cracked down on them much the same as they did in NYC back in the early and mid-1990s during the "Third Colombo War".

And the multitude of factions operating there; Sicilian Mafia, Calabrian N'drangheta, Hells Angels, street gangs, drug gangs, Irish crew, Haitians, etc etc is mind boggling....truly a mixed bag up in Canada.


It's all about drugs in Canada.


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