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Does anyone seriously think #993553
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That with the sudden hatred for police and silliness of defunding law enforcement that the families will make a come back with less scrutiny on them now? Just wondering

Re: Does anyone seriously think [Re: majicrat] #993554
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No. The wise guy that gets pinched for a running a shy business and bookmaking will get 20 years, but these Fucking animals defacing the nation are walking free. As evidenced by this weekend, these idiots will keep killing themselves at a faster rate with the "changes" they want.

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I don’t think so. The mafia will never every be anywhere close to what they were back in the 80’s. Technology alone makes it impossible for them to make a huge comeback.

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My feelings are basically the same, I just don’t see it but my reasoning is the lack of real candidates to choose from. The grooming just doesn’t exist, there’s zero immigration for Italians, zero street toughs to choose from and let’s face it these suburb raised kids are really glorified wannabes from an era gone by. They’re in no way street smart, raised in places like East Hanover, NJ I’m sure they get schooled (sarcasm), they’re not wanting for anything so they’re not “hungry” and honestly, does anyone think they’re capable to Carry out a hit and really do the time without turning states witness? That’s my reasoning unless they import desperate hungry guys from overseas.

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I think it will help the families in this one regard. With decreased police spending, more small businesses will turn to organized crime for protection.

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Good point.

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Originally Posted by majicrat
That with the sudden hatred for police and silliness of defunding law enforcement that the families will make a come back with less scrutiny on them now? Just wondering


For sure will be more cops that will accept a bribes for cover crimes so maybe will be a another eppolito and caracappa.

Re: Does anyone seriously think [Re: majicrat] #993636
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The police are not going to be defunded. It will never happen. Schools and hospitals get defunded in this country, but not police. Usually it's not local police that get organized crime anyway. Normally it's the FBI, DEA or special state police organized crime units who investigate and arrest mobsters. I think up until prosecutors got the hang of applying RICO, big city police were often on the pad anyway.

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Dead on Fleming :

The money will be moved from department to department , town to town , city to city . Americans better wake up if police ever took one step back total chaos would ensue quick.

This is not the way to make changes, from what i see it fractured right down color lines .


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Fleming, the thing is, it has and will likely continue to happen. One billion cut from NYPD. The beat cop who patrols the block at night checking on businesses will no longer be funded. Let's say you're a small business owner in Brooklyn. What do you do after the third burglary? Petty thieves and organized crime will also be mindful of this.

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The Italians are NOT up for, or prepared to protect anyone against the street thugs that control the streets these days. The thugs out there will shoot, you, me a cop or anyone in their way in a second without hesitation. The Italians aren’t in the neighborhoods that will be effected and just don’t have the violence in them to protect anyone. There may be a few that do, but not enough to make a difference. A guy kills Cali in front of his family, nothing happens. Years ago this guy would have been taken out, or a family member would’ve been hit. You kill a boss nothing happens, no way they provide protection like implied above to some store owner being robbed by these street criminals.

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Originally Posted by majicrat
That with the sudden hatred for police and silliness of defunding law enforcement that the families will make a come back with less scrutiny on them now? Just wondering


Nobody is going to defund the Police. You have obviously been following Donald Trump's Twitter.

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Originally Posted by majicrat
The Italians are NOT up for, or prepared to protect anyone against the street thugs that control the streets these days. The thugs out there will shoot, you, me a cop or anyone in their way in a second without hesitation. The Italians aren’t in the neighborhoods that will be effected and just don’t have the violence in them to protect anyone. There may be a few that do, but not enough to make a difference. A guy kills Cali in front of his family, nothing happens. Years ago this guy would have been taken out, or a family member would’ve been hit. You kill a boss nothing happens, no way they provide protection like implied above to some store owner being robbed by these street criminals.

If so then there is no mafia anymore...
They are just a bunch of dirty White collar criminals

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Didn’t NYC just agree to shift 1bn from the police?

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Jimmy_two_times, yes they did. I ignore blatant attempts by those who want to start a political argument with ignorant comments. But NYC did just that and more city councils are doing the same.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy_Two_Times
Didn’t NYC just agree to shift 1bn from the police?


Correct. "Shift" not "defund".

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"Defund" is an inflammatory word because it implies punishing police departments by taking away budget and firing officers. Repurpose or refocus might be better terms. I heard a professor from NYC's John Jay College say that police departments increasingly have to deal with homeless people, mentally ill people, addicts and others that society doesn't care about--the prof called it "mission-creep." He said that police would welcome it if those people were shifted to social workers, paramedics and others trained to deal with them--it would let police concentrate on law enforcement and crime prevention.


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Originally Posted by majicrat
Jimmy_two_times, yes they did. I ignore blatant attempts by those who want to start a political argument with ignorant comments. But NYC did just that and more city councils are doing the same.

This fucking guy smh

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Originally Posted by Turnbull
"Defund" is an inflammatory word because it implies punishing police departments by taking away budget and firing officers. Repurpose or refocus might be better terms. I heard a professor from NYC's John Jay College say that police departments increasingly have to deal with homeless people, mentally ill people, addicts and others that society doesn't care about--the prof called it "mission-creep." He said that police would welcome it if those people were shifted to social workers, paramedics and others trained to deal with them--it would let police concentrate on law enforcement and crime prevention.


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Originally Posted by majicrat
A guy kills Cali in front of his family, nothing happens. Years ago this guy would have been taken out, or a family member would’ve been hit. You kill a boss nothing happens


Cali's killer will be in protective custody, there is no way to get to him. Cefalu would have been warned by the feds not to try to retaliate. If the kid gets clipped, the law will rain down a shit storm on the Gambino's.

It's not a good look for the Gambino's letting a underboss get hit with no retaliation but for now it's okay because they can't be expected to get to him while he's in PC.






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I'll attempt to enlighten some of you with FACTS:

Portland: 15 Million cut from PD budget
Baltimore: 22.4 million cut from PD budget
Hartford: 2 Million cut form Budget

And many more city councils considering and bringing to a vote. If I'm wrong state the facts that prove I'm wrong, I'm not against being shown my error just don't say I'm mistaken without showing where/how or worse posting a sarcastic comment without merit.

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Originally Posted by majicrat
I'll attempt to enlighten some of you with FACTS:

Portland: 15 Million cut from PD budget
Baltimore: 22.4 million cut from PD budget
Hartford: 2 Million cut form Budget

And many more city councils considering and bringing to a vote. If I'm wrong state the facts that prove I'm wrong, I'm not against being shown my error just don't say I'm mistaken without showing where/how or worse posting a sarcastic comment without merit.


form?

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I'm taking a shot in the dark here but I think majicrat meant from. That's good Neo, you know that the word form was out of place in that statistic. Kudos old sport.

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Originally Posted by blueracing347
I'm taking a shot in the dark here but I think majicrat meant from.



I also guessed 'majicrat' meant "from". I was just making sure that is indeed what he meant in that rubbish post he tried to pass off as facts.






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Originally Posted by TheLittleMan
Fleming, the thing is, it has and will likely continue to happen. One billion cut from NYPD. The beat cop who patrols the block at night checking on businesses will no longer be funded. Let's say you're a small business owner in Brooklyn. What do you do after the third burglary? Petty thieves and organized crime will also be mindful of this.


You seem to think I want them defunded. That's not really the case. I think some police departments could use some improvement. I don't know if defunding is the way to go about it, and I don't think defunding will happen in most places. At least not for long. I think if it does happen it will be under the guise of "privatization".

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Neo, you're correct I made it up, you caught me. What gave it away the typo? On a serious note, those are facts which you did not dispute with a fact just sarcasm accusing them of being made up. Believe what you want. Defunding the police is real, it's happening and it will be a disaster. The only question is does it allow a resurgence in the MOB, I don't think it will. Only the loss of property and lives.

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Originally Posted by majicrat
The only question is does it allow a resurgence in the MOB, I don't think it will. Only the loss of property and lives.



I think it is mostly the FBI that target the mob. The local Police are more like the support team.

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Originally Posted by majicrat
My feelings are basically the same, I just don’t see it but my reasoning is the lack of real candidates to choose from. The grooming just doesn’t exist, there’s zero immigration for Italians, zero street toughs to choose from and let’s face it these suburb raised kids are really glorified wannabes from an era gone by. They’re in no way street smart, raised in places like East Hanover, NJ I’m sure they get schooled (sarcasm), they’re not wanting for anything so they’re not “hungry” and honestly, does anyone think they’re capable to Carry out a hit and really do the time without turning states witness? That’s my reasoning unless they import desperate hungry guys from overseas.

That is a very good synopsis..I agree.

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Originally Posted by hoodlum
Originally Posted by majicrat
My feelings are basically the same, I just don’t see it but my reasoning is the lack of real candidates to choose from. The grooming just doesn’t exist, there’s zero immigration for Italians, zero street toughs to choose from and let’s face it these suburb raised kids are really glorified wannabes from an era gone by. They’re in no way street smart, raised in places like East Hanover, NJ I’m sure they get schooled (sarcasm), they’re not wanting for anything so they’re not “hungry” and honestly, does anyone think they’re capable to Carry out a hit and really do the time without turning states witness? That’s my reasoning unless they import desperate hungry guys from overseas.

That is a very good synopsis..I agree.


Biagio Adornetto was a zip imported by Stanfa that flipped,isnt the fact that there are no hungry people but the fact that in the usa the laws are more harsh and its more easy to flip that risk long sentences and to import zips doesnt means that they couldnt flip.

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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
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Originally Posted by majicrat
My feelings are basically the same, I just don’t see it but my reasoning is the lack of real candidates to choose from. The grooming just doesn’t exist, there’s zero immigration for Italians, zero street toughs to choose from and let’s face it these suburb raised kids are really glorified wannabes from an era gone by. They’re in no way street smart, raised in places like East Hanover, NJ I’m sure they get schooled (sarcasm), they’re not wanting for anything so they’re not “hungry” and honestly, does anyone think they’re capable to Carry out a hit and really do the time without turning states witness? That’s my reasoning unless they import desperate hungry guys from overseas.

That is a very good synopsis..I agree.


Biagio Adornetto was a zip imported by Stanfa that flipped,isnt the fact that there are no hungry people but the fact that in the usa the laws are more harsh and its more easy to flip that risk long sentences and to import zips doesnt means that they couldnt flip.
Yes, Furio, but zips r more dangerous b-cause they tend 2 b more violent , & will kill innocent ppl.and law enforcement , also use bombs..which makes them more attractive 2 L.E.


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