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The Patriarca Family of New England #993444
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The Patriarca Family of New England

One of the most interesting Mafia Families to have ever existed is the New England Family of Cosa Nostra. It’s rich origins and bloody history have been well documented over the years. And of all its leaders, Raymond L.S. Patriarca was unquestionably the most capable and deadly of its bosses. Here is their story!

https://thenewyorkmafia.com/raymond-patriarca-family

Re: The Patriarca Family of New England [Re: NYMafia] #993446
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Its strange that a family with such large recruitment pool had only
30-40 made men.

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Re: The Patriarca Family of New England [Re: furio_from_naples] #993833
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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Its strange that a family with such large recruitment pool had only
30-40 made men.


I did a bit of math.....

1 million Italians in New York. There is 400-500 made members in New York, or came from New York. There is 250,000 Italians in Rhode Island and Boston (New England family turf), so by my estimate, if we use New York as a measuring stick, there should be 100-125 made members in Boston and Rhode Island. But clearly this has never been the case. Very strange indeed.

Re: The Patriarca Family of New England [Re: Neo] #993836
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Originally Posted by Neo
Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Its strange that a family with such large recruitment pool had only
30-40 made men.


I did a bit of math.....

1 million Italians in New York. There is 400-500 made members in New York, or came from New York. There is 250,000 Italians in Rhode Island and Boston (New England family turf), so by my estimate, if we use New York as a measuring stick, there should be 100-125 made members in Boston and Rhode Island. But clearly this has never been the case. Very strange indeed.


At their peak the Patriarcas had 100 made men but after Patriarcas sr death in 1984 and thanks to Connolly and Bulger the hierarchy (Angiulo and Zannino) was arrested and wild bill grasso and salemme fighted for the take the family and so on.
With a better boss the family would have today if not 100 maybe 50-60 active members.

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Originally Posted by Neo
Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Its strange that a family with such large recruitment pool had only
30-40 made men.


I did a bit of math.....

1 million Italians in New York. There is 400-500 made members in New York, or came from New York. There is 250,000 Italians in Rhode Island and Boston (New England family turf), so by my estimate, if we use New York as a measuring stick, there should be 100-125 made members in Boston and Rhode Island. But clearly this has never been the case. Very strange indeed.


I don't think that was only 400-500 made men.

The Genoveses and Gambinos have both almost 200 made men,the Luccheses and Colombos had 100 made men each and Bonanno more than 100.
So almost 700 made men.

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Re: The Patriarca Family of New England [Re: NYMafia] #993849
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Realistically, how many making ceremonies have they really had since Sr passed? Two? The Medford ceremony and then a few years ago in Boston? No new blood. Thats why the numbers are way off


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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Originally Posted by Neo
Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Its strange that a family with such large recruitment pool had only
30-40 made men.


I did a bit of math.....

1 million Italians in New York. There is 400-500 made members in New York, or came from New York. There is 250,000 Italians in Rhode Island and Boston (New England family turf), so by my estimate, if we use New York as a measuring stick, there should be 100-125 made members in Boston and Rhode Island. But clearly this has never been the case. Very strange indeed.


I don't think that was only 400-500 made men.

The Genoveses and Gambinos have both almost 200 made men,the Luccheses and Colombos had 100 made men each and Bonanno more than 100.
So almost 700 made men.


The Lukes have 80 made guys with about 60 active made members according to turncoat Pennisi. The Colombo's have about 60 made guys with 40-50 active members, they are almost the same as the DeCavalcantes in terms of active made members.

The Genoveses have 12 crews and the Gambino's have 10 crews. I don't know their membership numbers but they don't have 200 made members each, at least not 200 active made members.

The Bonanno's possibly have 100 made guys but the amount of active members will be less than that.

The FBI estimated that the US Cosa Nostra has a total of 3000 members and associates nationwide.


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Re: The Patriarca Family of New England [Re: The_Marble_Guy] #993927
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Originally Posted by The_Marble_Guy
Realistically, how many making ceremonies have they really had since Sr passed? Two? The Medford ceremony and then a few years ago in Boston? No new blood. Thats why the numbers are way off


RI had one in 97 for a few guys. Whether it was recognized by all 5 families depends on who you talk to

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Re: The Patriarca Family of New England [Re: NYMafia] #993933
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There still making guys just very secretive cause they already was the first family to have the whole thing recorded by the fbi and used around the country in every federal rico trial in the 90tys to establish to a 12 man jury that la cosa nostra does exist just listen to this tape. Very embarrassing I would think. Now the just take guys in a bathroom and say repeat after me blah blah blah never snitch. Welcome to the family.

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Max they ever had was probaly around 1982 20 made guys in the boston area and 20 around rhode island west towns of boston and ct. Max 45 50. Gerry angulo and ray were recorded saying how easy it is running a small family not like the huge nyc family's were every crew is riding for the top spot. 100 associates but probaly not even 50 max

Re: The Patriarca Family of New England [Re: NYMafia] #993936
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3 making ceremonies in Boston but one of them only had one guy. Rhode Island, Medford, both recognized by New York, (RI 4 to 1). Rhode Island is rumored to have done a making ceremony in the last few years but not confirmed.


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The last documented "making" ceremony the New England crew had was the one that was "bugged" by the FBI.

To the best of my knowledge anyway.

Now, have they inducted a few more guys since then? probably. I'd certainly hope so! It has been several decades after all. But NOBODY can confirm that. Except the guys who were in the room. Or the few other goodfellas that may have been introduced to them since then... Not the FBI. Nor anyone else. Anything to the contrary would be total speculation.

It does stand to reason that they have "made" a few guys since then. But I'm sure that they are very hesitant and extra careful about it, if and when they do. Between being "outed" and embarrassed by the feds back back in 89' I think it was. On top of the long list of important guys who have become informers and flipped to the G in recent years, and the well documented friction between the factions in Providence and Boston, it's been a real shit show.

Re: The Patriarca Family of New England [Re: NYMafia] #994110
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It’s been extremely quiet in terms of current activity over the past few years. Yes, there was the old murder that sent Cadillac Frank away for life. But in terms of activity now, only Angelesco pinch has been in the news. Probably just how they like it.

That being said, the cheese man is supposed to have made a couple of young Boston guys in the past couple of years including his nephew.

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Re: The Patriarca Family of New England [Re: mike68] #994113
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I'm sure he has. They gotta keep rockin and rollin. less rackets means a smaller crew nowadays. And we're talking about a small crew to begin with here.

Still I wouldn't doubt they still have 35+/- members. Another 150 associates or so....they'll survive.

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Frank told the feds how he inducted a few guys inn92 93 94. He made the rosettes. Joe deluca testified he was inducted in 93 by frank and his brother in rhode island. Chippy s. Allocated he was made in 96. The feds threw it in his pre sentencing report Eddie lato to. When baby shacks took the family in 95 96 he made the dinunzio brothers. Like frank said to the Senate the family was so embarrassed for getting recorded they would just do quick inductions on the fly so they wouldn't get caught again. I'm guessing there's been numerous inducted guys in the last decade just isn't really that special of a thing anymore or doesn't hold the prestige it did 30 40 yrs ago. Other street guys dont give a fuck the mob isn't killing guys anymore

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Sometimes it feels like Boston may never see another mob hit. Way too bad for business. Not that it’s a bad thing. Meanwhile, up in Canada, with no RICO statutes, they are still whacking people in broad daylight in the middle of a pandemic. LOL

Re: The Patriarca Family of New England [Re: mike68] #994127
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All the crews are running the same way. The dictate came down. Nobody gets clipped.... very bad for business in a sense. Did CN lose their teeth? If so, then people in general won't fear them and that's a huge problem.

Because at their core Cosa Nostra runs on fear. But in todays day and age with the unbelievable sophistication of law enforcement, I do think it's the smarter way to go.

I also think that mentality will only take them so far. IMO you will see a few guys clipped down the road. But the best way is just to make them disappear. With no "body", its much harder to formulate a criminal case.

At the end of the day, there's gotta be the tool of enforcement, otherwise they'll be a "toothless tiger"

Re: The Patriarca Family of New England [Re: mike68] #994138
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Originally Posted by mike68
It’s been extremely quiet in terms of current activity over the past few years. Yes, there was the old murder that sent Cadillac Frank away for life. But in terms of activity now, only Angelesco pinch has been in the news. Probably just how they like it.

That being said, the cheese man is supposed to have made a couple of young Boston guys in the past couple of years including his nephew.


That's the last ceremony I thought to take place. When the nephew and 2 others got made.

But it could be the case of making guys on the go, that way theres no attention.


" If you're going to be bad, be good at it "

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Re: The Patriarca Family of New England [Re: NYMafia] #994139
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@NYMafia I saw that you have Bonafiglia listed as a made member on the current leadership chart. Has that been confirmed? I always saw him listed as an associate.


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Hi Marble Guy, thanks for reading and your interest in my expose. The more current membership list I provided at the bottom of the Pictorial chart on New England that I designed doesn't confirm that Bonafiglia is an "inducted" soldier per se, only that he is a more "current" player in the Family.

To the contrary I tried to qualify the list created by specifically stating above the list that "most" named were members or high ranking associates.

I wrote "Most listed are inducted, the balance are top-ranked associates. Informants are marked with an * asterisk"

My reason for that is that although I am generally familiar with NE, and much more familiar with the earlier wiseguys from there, without a doubt there are some that I am wholly unfamiliar with. So I wouldn't wanna make that judgement call understand?

I come from NYC. In my town I'm extremely familiar with who's who so to speak. Not as much with current NE guys.

In regards to Bonafiglia, are you saying you are relatively certain he's an "associate?" Because you may very well be correct. I am not the one to confirm his status one way or the other. Lol

Anyway, I'm happy that you read my articles on the Patriarca crew. I do hope you enjoyed them... I do try. lol

Stay well my friend....sincerely, "The Other Guy"

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@NYMafia I always like reading about my backyard. And I appreciate you for putting these articles together. Did pretty well for someone not from here. Idk what the status on someone like Richard is. I’ve alwAys been under the assumption he was an associate based on how he’s been identified in the past. But as mentioned in this thread there could have been a few quick makings over recent years. So who knows.


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Originally Posted by The_Marble_Guy
@NYMafia I always like reading about my backyard. And I appreciate you for putting these articles together. Did pretty well for someone not from here. Idk what the status on someone like Richard is. I’ve alwAys been under the assumption he was an associate based on how he’s been identified in the past. But as mentioned in this thread there could have been a few quick makings over recent years. So who knows.



I've always been interested the New England crew. Gotta tell ya that we've visited Providence and eaten up in Federal Hill. I enjoyed checking out the area.

And I've been up to Boston's North End several times. I really like their Little Italy. Obviously much smaller than what NYC had, but also much cleaner and quaint. Very historic, a nice restaurant row. I was there when they had they're annual feast, I think it might have been "St. Anthony of Padua" if I'm not mistaken.

Very enjoyable. I recommend it... my children who were young at the time really enjoyed it as well.

I thought Raymond always ran a small, tight crew......lot of blood split over the years, Lol, but a good little Family none the less.

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http://mafiamembershipcharts.blogspot.com/search/label/New%20England


1. Angelesco-William 1971 Boston
2. Ascenzia-Anthony The Beaver Connect.
3. Barone-Pasquale Patsy 1961 Prov. R.I.
4. Bonfiglia-Richard 1954 Prov. R.I.
5. Bufalino-Darin 1961-
6. Capasso-Dennis JJ. Coliseum 1958 Prov. R.I.
7. Capone-Vincent Boston
8. Carlo-Anthony Chuckie
9. Caruana-Salvatore 1938
10. Carozza-Robert Bobby Russo 1940
11. Cincotti-John 1939 Boston
12. Chiampa-Alfred Fred 1934
13. Colantoni-Frank
14. Costa-Gregory Fat Boy 1970 Boston
15. Cucinotta-Antonino Nino
16. D'Aquila-Salvatore Butch 1941- Connect.
17. DelSanto-William Billy Black 1943 Prov. R.I.
18. DeLuca-Robert Buddy 1946 Prov. R.I.
19. DiGiacomo-Biaggio Benny 1946
20. DiNunzio-Anthony 1958 N.Boston
21. DiNunzio-Carmen Big Cheese 1957 Boss Boston
22. DiNunzio-Louis 1987
23. Federico-Vincent Vinny Fed 1959- Medford
24. Ferrara-Vincent The Animal 1949
25. Folco-Rocco Rocky 1947 Prov. R.I.
26. Frisoli-Michael
27. Galea-Pasquale 1942 Prov. R.I.
28. Gambale-Richard The Pig 1942 Malden
29. Gioacchini-Vincent Dee Dee 1952 Boston
30. Grasso-Mariano Mario 1950 Connect.
31. Gugliemetti-Matthew Snr. Matty 1948 Prov. R.I.
32. Guglielmetti-Matt Jnr. Good-looking Matt 1948 Prov.,R.I.
33. Imbruglia-Frank 1931 Boston
34. LePore-Dennis Champagne 1946- Boston
35. Limone-Frank 195?- Boston
36. Mannocchio-Louis Baby Shanks 1927 Prov. R.I. (retired)
37. Marfeo-Blaize 1941- Prov.,R.I.
38. Martorano-James* 1945-
39. Milano-Carmelo Auto Man
40. Milano-Gaetano Costello 1951 Springfield
41. Parillo-Anthony Prov. RI
42. Paterno-Joseph 1962-
43. Paterno-Joseph Jnr. Prov. R.I.
44. Pingaro-Joseph Junior 1956 Boston
45. Proccillo-Michael
46. Quintina-Pryce Stretch Revere
47. Rizzo-Anthony 1963 Boston
48. Rosetti-Stephen 1959
49. Rossetti-Mark 1960 Boston
50. Ruggiero-Joseph 1949 Prov. R.I.
51. Salemme-Jack Action Jackson 1943 Prov. R.I.
52. Scudieri-John
53. Simone-Alfred Neighbour 1950 Boston
54. Simonelli-G ? Hartford, Connect.
55. Spagnolo-Anthony Spucky 1942 Capo 1980- Boston
56. Tortora-Carmen 1947 Boston
57. Vitello-John 1947

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Re: The Patriarca Family of New England [Re: NYMafia] #994214
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Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by The_Marble_Guy
@NYMafia I always like reading about my backyard. And I appreciate you for putting these articles together. Did pretty well for someone not from here. Idk what the status on someone like Richard is. I’ve alwAys been under the assumption he was an associate based on how he’s been identified in the past. But as mentioned in this thread there could have been a few quick makings over recent years. So who knows.



I've always been interested the New England crew. Gotta tell ya that we've visited Providence and eaten up in Federal Hill. I enjoyed checking out the area.

And I've been up to Boston's North End several times. I really like their Little Italy. Obviously much smaller than what NYC had, but also much cleaner and quaint. Very historic, a nice restaurant row. I was there when they had they're annual feast, I think it might have been "St. Anthony of Padua" if I'm not mistaken.

Very enjoyable. I recommend it... my children who were young at the time really enjoyed it as well.

I thought Raymond always ran a small, tight crew......lot of blood split over the years, Lol, but a good little Family none the less.


@nymafia agreed. They’ve always been an interesting subject to discuss. Not being bias cause I’m from there but from researching through the years they’ve always been fun to read about.

Yea federal hill isn’t what it was, same with mulberry. North end is the best imo. But they’re all fun in their ways.

Plus NY has always had good relations with us. And I’ve heard many stories of even guys like Gotti visiting every so often. He was friendly with Gerard and so on. So there’s always been that connection there. Makes for great convo.


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What about Albie Folcarelli, The providence guy who was pinched a few years ago and did time. I recall the articles at the time indicating that he may have been close to being made. What came of him?

Also, whatever happened with Patsy Barone after he got out.
I assume he is out of life at this point as he has never been in the news again. That was a strange one where the government apologized to him for prosecutor misconduct. Yet there was no doubt that he did shoot And kill his best friend Jimmy Limoli. He got out after 20 years I think.

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Good question Mike. Is he indeed an inducted guy?

I've gotta check him out.

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Up until the 80s you had 80 members in the family ..9 captains..Anguilo grossed roughly 250k a week ..outside of New York and Chicago..after the fall of Maggadino .them and Philly were the 2 most powerful ..you had roughly 25 made in Rhode Island ..50 in Boston and 8-10 in Connecticut and Springfield areas


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: The Patriarca Family of New England [Re: NYMafia] #994503
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anthony Ascenzia died at 61 y old of heart attack.

Re: The Patriarca Family of New England [Re: furio_from_naples] #994505
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Re: The Patriarca Family of New England [Re: NYMafia] #994650
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I have an interesting question for the forum.

Of all of New England's inducted members (soldiers) of the late-1940s through 1970s era, who would you say had the single most deadly reputation?

Who was the top "torpedo" under Raymond Patriarca?

Remember, there may have been guys; associates of that era, or men inducted in the last few decades who were stone killers. But THAT does not count. Only INDUCTED members of the late-1940s through late-1970s era - basically a 30 year span... the height of NE's power.
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For my money the Patriarca hoodlum who exemplified those qualities was "Soldier" Rudolph (Rudy Earl) Sciarra. He had a vicious and deadly reputation. And he was one of Raymond's top "go to" guys when it was time clip somebody.... there were many other "capable" mafioso as the saying goes, but Rudy Sciarra would be my pick if I could only choose one.

HOW BOUT YOU?....

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