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Mobsters that get long sentences and don't flipped #993289
06/30/20 01:24 PM
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Peter Casella get 40 y for heroin traffick but made only 17 y
Matthew Madonna get in 1976 30 for h traffick plus extra 528 days in 1981 for kept his mouth shout on the drug traffick activities in NY.
John Pappa a colombo associate get life in 1997 and was in his 20s but don't flipped
George Martorano in 1984 get life for drug traffick and was 34 y old,he was released in 2015 after 30 years in the can.

There are other examples of mobster maybe young that get harsh sentences but never flipped?

Re: Mobsters that get long sentences and don't flipped [Re: furio_from_naples] #993290
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Fat tony got 100 years
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Vincent Basciano

Re: Mobsters that get long sentences and don't flipped [Re: furio_from_naples] #993291
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Christopher Londonio - hassled for 4 years in jail, put in solitary confinement, bogus escape charges to push the issue, facing life. I think he's only 46.

Re: Mobsters that get long sentences and don't flipped [Re: furio_from_naples] #993307
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Louis Daidone, life without the possibility of parole. His two predecessors (DeArco and DeFede) both flipped. Although it can be said that Daidone didn't have a contract on his head like those two. Still though, he really took one for the team.

Michael DeSantis deserves a mention, 17 years in prison. He also messed up the DeArco hit and as a direct result DeArco flipped and his testimony put Amuso away for life. Amuso was jammed up good and probably would have gone down hard anyway but I'm surprised he didn't put a contract on DeSantis for fucking up that important hit. Amuso might have rationalized that none of that would have happened if he didn't get paranoid about DeArco stealing money from him.

@admin that spelling auto correct needs to go, it's driving me ducking crazy.


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Re: Mobsters that get long sentences and don't flipped [Re: furio_from_naples] #993338
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Joe "Chickie" Ciancaglini. Think he got a 45 year sentence in the mid 1980's. He ended up doing 30 years and got released. Kept his mouth shut.


He was possibly involved in the 1980 Angelo Bruno hit. (I took alot of heat on that topic). He's lucky to still be alive.

Lucky guy all around...

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Re: Mobsters that get long sentences and don't flipped [Re: furio_from_naples] #993341
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Well, Phil Leotardo did 20 years although he rarely mentions it...


On a more serious note, Gene Gotti and Faffy Iannarella did 29 years. It seems that Faffy went back to business (or at least he is in touch with the current administration in Philly) while Gene Gotti seems to be retired.

After that much prison time, you'd understand that neither of them would want to go back to the street. Especially Gene Gotti since he is so well known. The first move he'd make, FBI informants will be all over him.


Originally Posted by Neo


Michael DeSantis deserves a mention, 17 years in prison. He also messed up the DeArco hit and as a direct result DeArco flipped and his testimony put Amuso away for life. Amuso was jammed up good and probably would have gone down hard anyway but I'm surprised he didn't put a contract on DeSantis for fucking up that important hit. Amuso might have rationalized that none of that would have happened if he didn't get paranoid about DeArco stealing money from him.


I've never believed that D'Arco hit story. I think it was Little Al being paranoid.

Has it ever been confirmed ? I don't recall Casso talking about it in his testimony.

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Re: Mobsters that get long sentences and don't flipped [Re: Malavita] #993344
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[quote=Malavita]Well, Phil Leotardo did 20 years although he rarely mentions it...

Classis comment .

Peter Limone the guy wrongly convicted for murder, did a ton of time and never flipped.

Re: Mobsters that get long sentences and don't flipped [Re: Jimmybrown] #993345
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Originally Posted by Jimmybrown
[quote=Malavita]Well, Phil Leotardo did 20 years although he rarely mentions it...

Classis comment .

Peter Limone the guy wrongly convicted for murder, did a ton of time and never flipped.


Thanks Jimmy Brown I forget Limone that made 33 y and get milions by the State (20 milions if I dont mistake) but he turned to life.

Re: Mobsters that get long sentences and don't flipped [Re: furio_from_naples] #993347
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Ricca was hit with a couple long stretches. The one film one that Nitti ended up killing himself over. Also, another one where he got released for due to some behind the scenes moves. Then Luciano, pulls of the biggest scheme with the U.S. Gov and gets all those years knocked off. Point being, they were both going to serve and did serve plenty of time and didn't rat. But bosses didn't rat back then.

Re: Mobsters that get long sentences and don't flipped [Re: furio_from_naples] #993348
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Re: Mobsters that get long sentences and don't flipped [Re: Malavita] #993353
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Originally Posted by Malavita
Well, Phil Leotardo did 20 years although he rarely mentions it...


On a more serious note, Gene Gotti and Faffy Iannarella did 29 years. It seems that Faffy went back to business (or at least he is in touch with the current administration in Philly) while Gene Gotti seems to be retired.

After that much prison time, you'd understand that neither of them would want to go back to the street. Especially Gene Gotti since he is so well known. The first move he'd make, FBI informants will be all over him.


Originally Posted by Neo


Michael DeSantis deserves a mention, 17 years in prison. He also messed up the DeArco hit and as a direct result DeArco flipped and his testimony put Amuso away for life. Amuso was jammed up good and probably would have gone down hard anyway but I'm surprised he didn't put a contract on DeSantis for fucking up that important hit. Amuso might have rationalized that none of that would have happened if he didn't get paranoid about DeArco stealing money from him.


I've never believed that D'Arco hit story. I think it was Little Al being paranoid.

Has it ever been confirmed ? I don't recall Casso talking about it in his testimony.


DArco had long suspected he was in big trouble. The topics up for discussing at that meeting were trivial matters and according to DeArco not the sort of things you discuss at those sort of meetings.

From memory Casso only talked about scores he made when he was on the streets earning, and how he got hard done by with the feds. I doubt he would talk about the DArco mess, considering he put a hit on him for stealing money and then it turned out he wasn't stealing money.

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Re: Mobsters that get long sentences and don't flipped [Re: furio_from_naples] #993377
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I've read D'Arco's book and i know what you're talking about but to me it doesn't make sense. There were a lot of weird things happening that day but i doubt the Lucchese would hit D'Arco that way, in a hotel room where the main capos of the family have been all day as well as the acting boss of another family. I don't think that was the right circumstances.

That's just my opinion but as far as i know it has never been confirmed that D'Arco was indeed going to be hit that day.

Re: Mobsters that get long sentences and don't flipped [Re: furio_from_naples] #993383
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Louis "Bobby" Manna, I thinks he's done over 30 on an 80 year sentence, he's currently 90 years old. Not a word from him

Re: Mobsters that get long sentences and don't flipped [Re: Malavita] #993387
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Originally Posted by Malavita
I've read D'Arco's book and i know what you're talking about but to me it doesn't make sense. There were a lot of weird things happening that day but i doubt the Lucchese would hit D'Arco that way, in a hotel room where the main capos of the family have been all day as well as the acting boss of another family. I don't think that was the right circumstances.

That's just my opinion but as far as i know it has never been confirmed that D'Arco was indeed going to be hit that day.

It is a strange place for a hit. I haven't read the DArco book. I guess we'll have to leave it at unconfirmed attempted hit.

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Re: Mobsters that get long sentences and don't flipped [Re: majicrat] #993429
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Originally Posted by majicrat
Louis "Bobby" Manna, I thinks he's done over 30 on an 80 year sentence, he's currently 90 years old. Not a word from him


Meanwhile the government is releasing pedophiles half his age for Corona fears !!

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Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
Originally Posted by majicrat
Louis "Bobby" Manna, I thinks he's done over 30 on an 80 year sentence, he's currently 90 years old. Not a word from him


Meanwhile the government is releasing pedophiles half his age for Corona fears !!


You can’t bring up Bobby without mentioning Richie Desciscio his codefendant. Although he wasn’t made(at least I don’t believe he was) he got 70 and Bobby got 80. Both stand up guys.

Re: Mobsters that get long sentences and don't flipped [Re: Jshov31] #993439
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Originally Posted by Jshov31
Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
Originally Posted by majicrat
Louis "Bobby" Manna, I thinks he's done over 30 on an 80 year sentence, he's currently 90 years old. Not a word from him


Meanwhile the government is releasing pedophiles half his age for Corona fears !!


You can’t bring up Bobby without mentioning Richie Desciscio his codefendant. Although he wasn’t made(at least I don’t believe he was) he got 70 and Bobby got 80. Both stand up guys.


The Genovese family rarely recruit the wrong guys !!

Re: Mobsters that get long sentences and don't flipped [Re: furio_from_naples] #993835
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Freddy Geas is doing life for killing two rats, refused to cooperate, then killed another rat in prison.

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Re: Mobsters that get long sentences and don't flipped [Re: Neo] #993882
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Phillip Narducci , Faffy , Charlie White , Joe Pungitore , Ralph Staino , Joe Grande , Frank (windows) Narducci RIP...& now Scarfo jr....all young & all Philly dudes..did their time & kept their mouth shut......mind u..I am NOT glorifying these dudes..just contributing 2 the post..even though a few were nice 2 me when I was a kid..(in my early 20s). most were assholes. Tory Scafidi @ the top ASSHOLE 2 me personally ..some of the older posters will remember my long story about him & I..u can still find it if u have time 2 scan through my shit..Peace.


I didn't want to leave blood on your carpet...
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Originally Posted by hoodlum
Phillip Narducci , Faffy , Charlie White , Joe Pungitore , Ralph Staino , Joe Grande , Frank (windows) Narducci RIP...& now Scarfo jr....all young & all Philly dudes..did their time & kept their mouth shut......mind u..I am NOT glorifying these dudes..just contributing 2 the post..even though a few were nice 2 me when I was a kid..(in my early 20s). most were assholes. Tory Scafidi @ the top ASSHOLE 2 me personally ..some of the older posters will remember my long story about him & I..u can still find it if u have time 2 scan through my shit..Peace.

My bad..Charlie White was not young or Ralph Staino..& didnt Charlie just recently pass??..or was it Faffy?? ....whatever..


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Re: Mobsters that get long sentences and don't flipped [Re: furio_from_naples] #994077
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Gennaro Bruno a gambino associate get 21 y for murder and doesn’t flip.


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