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Re: South Philly Stands Up [Re: streetbossliborio] #992376
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Originally Posted by streetbossliborio
Myth #1
We have a problem with white supremists.. where are all these white supremists? Hiding by the Lochness monster?;

- You have literally just seen a video of a white policeman casually suffocating a black man to death. This is coming off the back of a redneck father and son chasing a black man down and shooting him dead. So you feel all black people have been given the same opportunity as white people in America to this day? And that they haven’t been held down and looked down upon by the majority white country? Bro get real. Even someone with half a brain cell can concede this point.

We have a problem with violents blacks with no fathers. Thats the true problem;

- poverty is rife in the black community due to a lack of opportunities over the last century since they were enslaved. Give more opportunities/less racism and crime lessens. Look at the Italians 100 years ago to now. Only the dumb Italians are still in crime as the community has got more opportunities. When they first got off the boat they were seen by racists as cousin shagging greasy semi-black people and they weren’t given opportunity. Now they are firmly white, feel safely white and get more opportunity from the community accordingly.

Myth #2
Cops are slaughtering blacks.
More whites are killed by cops each year than blacks;

- dumb statement. Proportionally way more blacks are killed than whites if you look at the race demographics of the country. It’s like saying more whites eat food in America so whites are fatter. Makes no sense.

Fact.
Over 90% of blacks that are killed are killed by other blacks;

- same for every culture. Italians kill Italians. If your community is a certain colour, any crime elements within those communities will obviously kill each other when disputes happen. What point are you actually making

Myth #3
There is systemic racism.
What does that even mean? Thats a twenty first century term liberals throw at us that no one can truly define;

- okay so where do i start with this. I would probably suggest you read something as me typing on my phone in bed on such a complex issue isn’t really going to do it justice my friend. Let me bite size it for you - black people since slavery ended have been given far less opportunities, funding and suffered horrific amounts of racism over the last century which filters down to now where things have improved but there is still a lot to do, whether it’s police discrimination, harsher jail terms, employment bias against blacks or just someone in the street looking down upon black people it’s still prevalent and experienced every day.

Myth #4
We are holding blacks down;

- (Who is we? Who are you? Let me know and I’ll give you an answer!)

Bs.. blacks hold themselves down. 77% of all blacks are born out of wedlock to young, unskilled, and mostly low income women;

- i don’t know this statistic. I am also not religious and don’t believe in weddings. Yet I’m certainly a lot more educated than you so go figure.

Thats not a recipe for success and thats not the white mans problem;

- nothing is a “white mans problem”. There is right and there is wrong. Everyone is equal and deserves the same opportunity. This has horrifically not happened over the last century and although things have undoubtedly improved there are still examples of it which when caught on camera it creates outrage as the wounds are still fresh.

The extremely high out of wedlock birth rate in the black community is BY FAR their biggest problem and its self inflicted,
Who pays for all these out of wedlock children? The american tax payer;

- in the U.K. this is prevalent in all races as I’m sure is the same in the US. Don’t you guys have rednecks! Our posh rich PM has kids everywhere! Anyway a single parent low income household is not a great life. I don’t begrudge some of my taxes going to help people with a few extra dollars a month to pay for food whether it’s for a white, black or brown household. There’ll always be the less fortunate, and always will be. God forbid you/I don’t lose our incomes and get divorced and then we would be more leeches to the system in your shady view..


Another fact, blacks are 13% of the population yet they commit over 51% of all violent crime. Thats part of their culture.
If anything, blacks are much more racist against whites;

- i don’t know if this statistic is true but I would add one thing and ask you a question - poverty equals crime. Why is there poverty in black community?!!

People from India are brown and they come to this country with no money but yet they commit no crime and their children do very well. Why, they have strong family values. This is what truly lacks in the black community. The black culture is not only irresponsible and violent, its immature. Stop blaming whites for the problem caused by blacks;

-load of absolute twaddle. Indians weren’t brought over as slaves, dehumanised, Segregated into poor ghettos, looked down upon, constantly beaten and hurt by police, subject to harsher jail terms, etc etc. How can you compare the 2 communities. Simplistic and dumb argument .



Indians have the highest average salary of any ethnic group in the US.

Now do Koreans and Chinese immigrants, who come here with nothing, and reach levels of hyper achievement in short amounts of time. They do all this with minimal political representation, unlike blacks, who dominate urban political circles.

It's amazing watching you bugmen jump through hoops to deny the obvious which is happening right in front of you. It must be nice to have the entire state apparatus on your side. I wonder what that feels like - to pretend to be fighting oppressive power whilst every corporation in the US and abroad kisses your post-modernist ass.

You sound like the product of 60 years of pathological social science. You offer no statistics and all anecdotes. The Floyd killing was a statistical anomaly. Police killing unarmed blacks is exceedingly rare, as Lenox mentioned.

All the institutional ops - deconstruction, critical theory, intersectionality, post-modernism - have warped the American psyche into a pathos.

Here's a few examples:
1. Michael Brown:
media had made it out to seem like he dindu nuffin. They pushed the narrative for months. Groups gathered and rioted (fostered by international NGO'S, funded by Soros).
Turns out the "angel" Michael Brown had just robbed a store and beat up the clerk.

2. Ahmad Arbery: media said - and still says - he was out jogging. In timberland boots? After having parused a construction site? All those miles from his home? After numerous arrests including several that were recent ( the media still used his 7 year old yearbook photo, rather than his widely available and more recent mugshot).

3. The birder: a gay, black man just happened to be birding in the ramble ? Perhaps the most well known fag spot in New York.? He wanted the dog gone so he could entertain other men in the bushes. That's what they do up there. He tacitly threatened the woman's dog, as well.

Still, ex-President Obama still refered to these folks as Birders and Joggers in his recent provocation/speech. He also still mentions Michael Brown.

Endless propaganda. No cognitive liberty.

Re: South Philly Stands Up [Re: Andragathia] #992402
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Originally Posted by Andragathia
Sorry dsd, you are incorrect. The Brits owned slaves when they occupied India. And the Dutch before and the Arabs before that. I guess you will tell me Pakistan and India are best friends too.



Can you show me a reputable source for this Indian slaves?
I'm Indian background and never heard of it.

Proof!

** Indentured is not slavery, if that's what you're going to say

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Inglorius Empire by Shashi Tharoor. You can make an arguement either way. Indentured servant or slave. Maybe India wouldn't be what it is today without British rule. I would contrast it with how Italy occupied Somalia. I bet it would be a more prosperous place if they had been there longer. The same with Libya. Italy has paid reperations to Libya for almost 100 years for occupying Libya. One can argue that too would be in better shape today if Italians had more time there.

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Originally Posted by Andragathia
Inglorius Empire by Shashi Tharoor. You can make an arguement either way. Indentured servant or slave. Maybe India wouldn't be what it is today without British rule. I would contrast it with how Italy occupied Somalia. I bet it would be a more prosperous place if they had been there longer. The same with Libya. Italy has paid reperations to Libya for almost 100 years for occupying Libya. One can argue that too would be in better shape today if Italians had more time there.


Wow, how quaint, some European trying to help us savages. Do you believe the Swedes should run Italy, I'm sure Italy would of prospered more. You wouldn't of needed to send your criminally minded hordes fleeing to the ' new world' with their degenerate Mafia ways.

"*** to (nearly) everyone else; I'm kidding

And still indentured isn't the same as slavery.


***Quick check to see if your Libya 100 years of reparations, stacks up. As I definitely found hard to believe. In 2008 , Italy agreed to pay 5bill. I bet this was a oil trade deal but Gadaffi made Italy kiss his / Libya's butt.

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Never called anyone a savage. Although the ganges looks worse than the Delaware river and putting cow piss on your face isn't very cosmopolitan. People left Italy to come to America because of commies and socialists destroying everthing the same way they want to destroy America. Ciminal minded, not really, some yes but most wanted to earn an honest living. Out of 20 million Italian Americans a small percentage commit crimes. And yes it was an oil deal that goes back way further than 2008 mandated by the allies after the war. You know less about Italian history than you do about your own. Anyway you want to convince yourself that Indians weren't British subjects is fine by me.

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Originally Posted by dsd
You wouldn't of needed to send your criminally minded hordes fleeing to the ' new world' with their degenerate Mafia ways.


Your comment was probably tongue-in-cheek, but organized crime isn't limited to Italians. In lots of places throughout the world some form of homegrown organized crime has taken root.
East Asia, former Soviet Union, the Balkans, Central America, South America, North Africa, West Africa, the Levant, the Caribbean...are all regions were plenty of nations have a strong indigenous organized crime element. Western Europe; the British, the Irish, the Dutch and the French (Corsicans) have their mobs and firms...biker gangs throughout the Netherlands, Germany, Scandinavia and Oceania...

In the USA the Mafia isn't the sole organized criminal element...the Blacks, the Hispanics, the Asians, the Natives, the Islanders, WASPS and Irish...all have their gangs unique to the USA. Whether it's street gangs, prison gangs or criminally minded biker gangs.
Organized crime was there in the USA was before the Italians set foot in the country. Like the crooked saloon operators and afterwards the Irish...

Italians are stereotyped for this, but organized crime isn't something that's exclusive to Italians. Italians just perfected it wink
Wasn't the Italians' fault they played the game and came out on top wink

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They also paid reperations to Yugoslavia, Greece, Albania and Ethiopia per the 1947 treaty of peace with Italy.

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Yeah,it wasn't meant just a response to some poster who now tells me that a ' subject' is a 'slave' . Big difference ask the African Americans on here.

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Re: South Philly Stands Up [Re: Andragathia] #992502
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well said. thankyou could not b better explained. i dont wanna throw any race under the bus but'.. i googled the arab was the one that sold the black man to Certain white people. but the blacks always wanna call the arabs thier brothers..? you are right italians never bought african slaves while in the states in the 1800-1900's. and i believe sweedish norigean russian austrialian and a few other countries were not involved.. when are blacks gonna realize this..

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i know i am amazed at what i saw all those college white women.. and most of them will never even interact with blacks socially or in business ever. rich white college bitches from subarbs who Never been to a big city until thier college exp. those pigs are verry blind.. i will stop there. Well then by 30 they get a job, move to subarbs in 300'000 $ house then turn republican And yes that cop derick was a verrry weak man.. bad move bro. The man at the pearly gates knows what he was thinking. And he probably gonna meet the devil

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many blacks go to college on the tax payers dime and their admission standards are much less than whites and asians.
example, a white or asian may need 1200 on their sat score while a black would require only 990. what winds up happening is the black cant keep up in class and invariably drops out. the ones that do graduate usually have ridiculous degrees that cannot be monetized such as black history and communications.
society bends over backwards for blacks and yet they manage to destroy everything handed to them. perhaps we stop handing them everything and they will appreciate what they have. i doubt it, just look at what they do to their own neighborhoods.

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What did you get on the SAT’s, Lenox? I’m imagining a score of 200 after you scrawled your name on the top of the exam with a crayon.

Re: South Philly Stands Up [Re: thebigfella] #992544
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500years? You don't mean america do you? Cus america isn't 500yrs old.


One thing about wiseguys...the hustle never ends.-tony soprano
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Originally Posted by NYMafia
What people fail to realized about Dr. King, and Big Fella, correct me if I'm wrong, is that in that peaceful photo of Dr. King everyone wants to show around is that five minute after that was taken, the police attacked the group of peaceful marchers.

Second, and this relates to Mafia actually, research Scarpa's black bag jobs for the FBI. He did stuff for the FBI against civil rights leaders. I can't remember all of the specifics.

You should actually look this up.scarpa kidnapped KKK members to find murdered civil rights leaders


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I saw the video of the officer killing George Floyd. I am white so I am not coming at this from any sort of a "Black Lives Matter" perspective. I just don't know how you kneel on a person's neck for 8 1/2 or 9 minutes if you have no intent to kill. And then I see the video of a cop in Buffalo knocking down a 75 year old white man who walks with a cane. These things make me think that maybe some police departments in this country could use some reform, for the good of all of us citizens.

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Guero he’s baiting just let him vent that garbage. The myths were embarrassing enough and highlighted his level of intelligence/ignorance. Funny how education keeps getting brought up lol. No need to insult him, his own words do that to himself.

Also all this talk about the family. If he has kids I hope he isn’t influencing them with this garbage for their sake..

The words used in this thread - Savages, white woman rapists, comparing the black experience in the US to Chinese & Indian, dindu nuffin etc etc. Your point of view & argument automatically means nothing when you talk this sh*t, and as time goes on these views are increasingly dying out with every passing generation thankfully.

And if you are countering an unarmed persons killing by mentioning their criminal history you are a moron and a bad person. Like that’s a reason to murder someone.

Any looters are also morons and should be arrested. Protesters should be commended. Two different things.

And there are issues in the black community (as there are in others) but there is a reason for this currently & even more so historically. Justice must be demanded and fought for, not sitting by hoping for a chance. Back the protesters, condemn the looters.



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Originally Posted by Fleming_Ave
I saw the video of the officer killing George Floyd. I am white so I am not coming at this from any sort of a "Black Lives Matter" perspective. I just don't know how you kneel on a person's neck for 8 1/2 or 9 minutes if you have no intent to kill. And then I see the video of a cop in Buffalo knocking down a 75 year old white man who walks with a cane. These things make me think that maybe some police departments in this country could use some reform, for the good of all of us citizens.


Definitely. I don't think anybody can honestly look at that video and tell that cop's actions were called for. Absolutely disgusting. I hope that dirtbag Chauvin hangs himself; he probably won't though, because going by that arrogant smirk on his face the smug is strong in that asshole.

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Everyone agree’s george floyd was killed and the cop is going to prison for a long time and he should. No one disagrees with that. The blacks are using that tragedy as an excuse for their irresponsible behavior and thats the problem mature, productive Americans have with blacks. The white man always picks up the tab for the black mans mess.
But that doesnt obscure the facts that blacks commit genocide against other blacks and as a whole lead incredibly irresponsible lifestyles. Thats up to them to change, not a white guy. The excuses just keep coming and America is sick of it. Their behavior during the rioting and robbing set them back over 50 years. Thats on them.
Many weak white liberals were destroying property with the blacks but the blacks commited the majority of looting all in the name of justice of course,, NOT...

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The statue of a slave trader from Bristol, England was recently destroyed by protesters.

Don't mention the fact that he bought black slaves from black slave traders.

If these people would read a book once in a while they might learn that slave trading wasn't exclusively the domain of white people.

But then again, these people cannot accept any responsibility for their own lives, it's always got to be someone else's fault.

George Floyd being deified is nothing new. Kobe Bryant's life was celebrated and put up on a pedestal even though he was a rapist. Black people cheered and threw parties when OJ Simpson got off for murdering Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman.

Apparently only white people can be prejudiced, despite the fact that the majority black jurors vowed to acquit OJ from the start, regardless of the facts, because of the colour of his skin and because they wanted to make a political statement.

At least Floyd is going to get more justice than Ron Goldman and Nicole Simpson.


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Lennox my friend you are literally venting grade D Aryan Brotherhood BS. Don’t worry about “the blacks” worry about yourself and get educated, lose the prejudice.

Moe no idea what your point is Lol it doesn’t matter if he bought slaves from a white, black, brown - there is a statue commemorating him as a hero in England. The statue obviously has to go. Serves no purpose keeping it there. Maybe put it in a museum for historical purposes but certainly not the centre of a city as a hero..

Who said George Floyd is being deified. The murder caught on camera of an unarmed man is causing serious outrage period. Kobe wasn’t a convicted rapist - BS comment. “These people” lol come off it mate. Odd rambling post.

Anyway that’ll do from me. Good luck & peace to all no matter how creepy your racial views are!

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Originally Posted by streetbossliborio
Lennox my friend you are literally venting grade D Aryan Brotherhood BS. Don’t worry about “the blacks” worry about yourself and get educated, lose the prejudice.

Moe no idea what your point is Lol it doesn’t matter if he bought slaves from a white, black, brown - there is a statue commemorating him as a hero in England. The statue obviously has to go. Serves no purpose keeping it there. Maybe put it in a museum for historical purposes but certainly not the centre of a city as a hero..

Who said George Floyd is being deified. The murder caught on camera of an unarmed man is causing serious outrage period. Kobe wasn’t a convicted rapist - BS comment. “These people” lol come off it mate. Odd rambling post.

Anyway that’ll do from me. Good luck & peace to all no matter how creepy your racial views are!


I've said my piece, Chrissy.


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Give the U.S.a break and send all the protesters on cruises and go take to protesting in the jungles.

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Jungles of Africa.

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Some factual history. Slavery has gone on from the beginning of time and included every society. Almost every culture was a victim of slavery at one time or another, the greeks, romans, slovs, jews, vikings, egyptians, you name it.
As far as the trans atlantic slave trade is concerned, only a small percentage were sent to the united states. The majority went to the carribean and south america. The media would have you think most came to north america. Thats simply not true.
Most slaves were sold by other africans, not captured by white men with nets. Various tribes engaged in war and the losers of those wars were used as slaves and sold or traded to europeans by africans.

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Irish and Scottish were brought to America by the British as indentured servants. It's a pervasive myth that all slaves were black.

You would swear that black people are incapable of being racist.

Tell the Jewish victims of the Crown Heights riot and the Korean victims of the LA riots that black people aren't racist.

If anything, it's racist and patronizing to keep acting like blacks simply cannot be racist because they are black.

Race relations are not a "black and white" issue, no pun intended.

And enough of this condescending crap about them being born disadvantaged because of the system. Poverty is an issue among every race in pockets of the US.

Of course black families are going to be at a financial disadvantage proportionately to white families when statistics bear out that white families are less likely to be broken up. That has nothing to do with systemic disadvantage.


I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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Modern slavery is still going on, look at the Gulf states.


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