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Re: Vito Genovese allies
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According to Peter Maas' book The Valachi Papers, when Genovese came back from Italy, he had the support of two crews out of the six that made up the family. The crews headed by Tony Bender and Mike Miranda. According to Valachi, Genovese was pissed off at Bender because he felt like Bender let Costello's guys take over everything.
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Re: Vito Genovese allies
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I'll tackle the Alleged Barney position first, He would have come out of the Vito Genovese line by Coppola crew and virtue of being blessed by Vinnie Chin.
Sceond, the power that Costello wielded was partly because Luciano was still in the picture in the late 40's when Genovese returned to U.S. Once Willie Moretti who was Costello's muscle got clipped, the power within started to shift back to Vito the main players Costello side: Willie Moretti/Jerry Catena Joe Adonis/Jimmy Blue Eyes Alo Little Augie Pisano Carfano Joe Socks Lanza Genovese Side: Tony Bender Strollo Trigger Mike Coppola Mike Miranda
On the fence guys: Tommy Greco Rocco Pellegrino possibly more
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"Joe Bananas went after Carlo Gambino, the war went on for seven years..... When guys go to the mattresses, they're not out earning" -Tony Soprano
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Re: Vito Genovese allies
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The old mob books are always better after more years of researching information. I'm more of a Bonanno guy(obviously ) myself and I've reread "Man of Honor" joe bonanno's autobiography, I had way more understanding and context reading the second time around, making it more interesting. It was pretty boring the first time. Genovese's influence was definite until his death because of the people that he had in place and the power to remove potential rivals within the Family (Tony Bender, Tommy Eboli, Mike Miranda, Benny Squint, Frank Tieri etc). Gambino made stragetic maneuvers to eliminate his opponent but he wasn't bloodthirsty. And he inherited alot of his power from his alliance with Tommy Lucchese, fter his death.
Last edited by Dob_Peppino; 05/05/20 05:31 AM.
"Joe Bananas went after Carlo Gambino, the war went on for seven years..... When guys go to the mattresses, they're not out earning" -Tony Soprano
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