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Re: Phil Leonetti valutainment interview [Re: fergie] #990304
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phil is very interesting imo. i would like to see all the rats get together and see what happens. you could have phil leonetti and ralph natale and nicky crow rub shoulders ha ha.

Re: Phil Leonetti valutainment interview [Re: Zavattoni] #990309
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You just posed a question thats been asked before but needs to be reevaluated. Was Angelo Bruno a Good Boss?

I've always been of the thought process that logically, if you get clipped or end up spending the rest of your life in the can, you were automatically not a great boss... I have in the past considered Bruno a good Boss but this is before certain information. I've gave him lots of credit in longevity and being considered a big earner in gambling before being Boss. But his leadership style was counter-productive.


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Re: Phil Leonetti valutainment interview [Re: Dob_Peppino] #990316
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Originally Posted by Dob_Peppino
You just posed a question thats been asked before but needs to be reevaluated. Was Angelo Bruno a Good Boss?

I've always been of the thought process that logically, if you get clipped or end up spending the rest of your life in the can, you were automatically not a great boss... I have in the past considered Bruno a good Boss but this is before certain information. I've gave him lots of credit in longevity and being considered a big earner in gambling before being Boss. But his leadership style was counter-productive.


Definitely counter-productive. His guys were starving financially and trying to make money. Bruno wasn't having it.... Shit; His own cousin John Scimone turnt on him. I'm curious to see why he did. He died like a man though; Gravano let him take his shoes off before he was shot in the head.


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Re: Phil Leonetti valutainment interview [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #990317
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Originally Posted by DanteMoltisanti
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And here is another thing ... Phil didn’t get a change in his appearance.... he got a face lift .... they say it was reconstructive....but it was a glorified face lift .

I hear guys are using all my info other places and saying stuff they should not know ..... but they are putting a little spin on it like they herd from a third cousin or some shit .

But yeah that face lift is and was done with a year later and now its just Phil and yeah like someone said he doesn’t want the neighbors to see him now and of course its been 30 years he looks older .... but trust me he is same.


Serp, with all due respect everyone associated with the old Ducktown neighborhood knows that Phil had "Plastic Surgery" to alter his appearance when he was really playing the FBI to look better and younger. I am really close with a relative of Phil's through marriage, she tells me Phil comes back to AC several times a year and told me about his new appearance. He really wont have any problems as long as he stays out of Margate in the summer and the AC casinos. I said this on the other board as well.



Yeah but you are around here ... others just spin shit ...... you knew he had a face lift because two or three years back when i seen him and told you and many other things that nobody knows and you didn’t repost , and then say i was not from here or similar ....but like i said you are here....others read and tell people that i am not even from here that i only read his book ...... got to love it .... only person that gave more info is Phil himself .... and feds.

Just saying you cant say i am not from here , and read my post , and repost in different words and then still say i am not from here . Lol got to love it !

I dot look at other sites or listen to all these pod casts ..... but i guess after folks reading my posts here then go on a chat or pod cast or website they repeat everything they remember.

Don’t care but they cant say i dont know shit then use all my info as like they were there....lol...internet i

There were only five people in the restaurant that day other then employees and employees were there for 30 plus years.

And like i said Phil should do something or stop saying shit about Skinny because of the people you speak of .... kind of important dont you think .

Had a guy years ago ask some stuff so i gave him some stuff nobody knew ..... then he comes back and asks me about a name or two ....i said I didn’t know them .... i did know them they are cousins.....but of course i am not telling a word about them......this cat goes and PM a shit load of people saying i have no clue who so and so is .... so SERP can’t be real ..... internet.....lol

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Re: Phil Leonetti valutainment interview [Re: Zavattoni] #990318
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Originally Posted by Zavattoni
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They definitely did make a example out Caponigro. Tieri screwed him over big time.... Poor guy got $20 doller bills stuck in his a** and was tortured.

Response to Castellano and Bruno relationship; Castellano could care less about Bruno. Castellano was greedy. He prolly had alot to gain by Bruno being dead. The Gambino's were walking all over Bruno and selling coke and heroin in South Jersey. The bars and pizza places. I'm pretty sure Castellano didnt care;, He did lose a vote by proxy on commission decisions though. Someone could prolly elaborate about that.

Bruno gets alot of leeway with being a good boss but was he really???? He seems greedy and cheap like Paul. Guys from different factions was plotting against him


Really? If I was the first cop on the scene I would've taken that.

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Re: Phil Leonetti valutainment interview [Re: fergie] #990346
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Serp your the real deal you have nothing to prove to anyone!


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Re: Phil Leonetti valutainment interview [Re: fergie] #990352
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I’m surprised Scarfo doesn’t get the same hate as Gotti, a lot of people on here seem to glorify Scarfo.

According to all the turncoats, Scarfo LOVED being in the limelight, especially if he or his gang made the papers. He figured it’d send fear throughout the underworld, and NY would respect him. What he didn’t work out was (along with Gotti) was that being so public was bad for business and eventually bought down the entire mob.

Not saying they wouldn’t have been bought down, but at lease be secretive about it. When you’re throwing boat parties and having every soldier and capo turn up, just like Gotti did at the Ravenite, it just made things easier for the Feds.

I know people are in awe of him because he’s so trigger happy and was fearless but he was still stupid and let his ego run afoul

Re: Phil Leonetti valutainment interview [Re: Serpiente] #990353
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Originally Posted by Serpiente
Don’t know what happened above ^^^^^

Tony : that’s exactly how we were raised , many now will never understand.

Salvie knew when he first thought that it wasn’t going to work out him marrying Chuckies kid that it may cost him his life..... no doubt about it !!!

Salvie knew that he was in big trouble..... but he put all his trust in Nick and in that life you never do that . Salvie should of married her and sucked up his bad decision and did like thousands of mob guys did.





Exactly Serp, Salvie could have still married her and just like most mob guys, still have his piece on the side. Unless you’re a stupid Fuk like Castellano’s son in law who was cheating and abusing connie

Even Gotti’s son in law was cheating on Angela. Never a good move but getting married was better than calling off the engagement.

Again, say Chuckie saw it, Salvie asked him for permission. He gave it, dude screwed his daughter. Then took off.

Chuckie also wanted Salvie to step down, but I think Salvie didn’t go that route either so things just escalated

Re: Phil Leonetti valutainment interview [Re: fergie] #990358
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I think it's time we cut the current Philly admin some slack. The bruno/testa admin was wracked with murders of top people. Almost the whole Philly family under scarfo went to jail for 20+ years, and so did the admin that followed; ligambi and the guys basically had to rebuild from scratch.


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Re: Phil Leonetti valutainment interview [Re: JCrusher] #990359
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Interesting how he said out of the crew it was just Yogi that liked his women..

Joey took after his uncle eh! (Not in the rat department tho!)

. I think Salvie did too. Obviously everybody knows about Maria Merlino but there was also Rosina Rucci who he was on/off with until he died. I also think there was another girl he was with too until he died

Rosina wrote a heartfelt book about their relationship , & I always believed she was part of the reason he dropped Maria...there is a picture of them 2gether floating around.


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Re: Phil Leonetti valutainment interview [Re: fergie] #990372
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I am glad Phil cleared up the fact that it was Chuckie who wouldn't marry Rugnetta's daughter. I have read many people in here and news articles that have said it was Nicky. Trying to tell people they are wrong, and then having them say ohhh but Anastasia, and Mayoface said it it has to be true has been exhausting.

Re: Phil Leonetti valutainment interview [Re: mchang93] #990373
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I was around when Salvie was in town twice other then Georgia ave ...(and no I didn’t know him only by site and a knod ).... And it was at private party’s and he had zero problems with girls .... matter fact the problem was to many girls and he was putting it in Chuckie and others faces , you have to remember he was the underboss so there were plenty of pissed off guys that she shot down for Salvie ... Sal was a catch ,so this was a big problem.

Lawrence was same as Sal but Sal was much better looking and had plenty of cash from his dad . It didn’t matter if Yogi had a new girl at every bar , because there father was not the underboss of your family.

Yeah Chang its funny how these legends in the reporting field get most of there info from Feds and rats and the top two reporters have been saying shit that all wrong !!!!

Those guys would be better off here .

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Re: Phil Leonetti valutainment interview [Re: Moe_Tilden] #990375
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Re: Phil Leonetti valutainment interview [Re: Moe_Tilden] #990376
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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
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They definitely did make a example out Caponigro. Tieri screwed him over big time.... Poor guy got $20 doller bills stuck in his a** and was tortured.

Response to Castellano and Bruno relationship; Castellano could care less about Bruno. Castellano was greedy. He prolly had alot to gain by Bruno being dead. The Gambino's were walking all over Bruno and selling coke and heroin in South Jersey. The bars and pizza places. I'm pretty sure Castellano didnt care;, He did lose a vote by proxy on commission decisions though. Someone could prolly elaborate about that.

Bruno gets alot of leeway with being a good boss but was he really???? He seems greedy and cheap like Paul. Guys from different factions was plotting against him


Really? If I was the first cop on the scene I would've taken that.

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I read first line of this and knew it had to be moe posting this

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Re: Phil Leonetti valutainment interview [Re: fergie] #990377
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Serp- I know and people will say about Phil well he only ratted after he lost case,(which I'm glad he cleared up here how the tragedy with his cousin played into it) but when you think about it a guy who has been promised nothing and knows 40 years is waiting is easier to beleive then someone who is giving info based on a deal they are negotiating.

Re: Phil Leonetti valutainment interview [Re: fergie] #990385
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my first post on here was about that beef exactlyif I remember correctly.i started an account to explain Nicky was in his crew and chuckie insulted his daughter then went on to type Nicky was part of his crew and Nicky insulted his daughter by accident like a dumb ass.

Re: Phil Leonetti valutainment interview [Re: fergie] #990485
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Hey Serp. Did know about Phil's other nickname Jose for Merlino ? Lol

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Originally Posted by flamingokid123
Hey Serp. Did know about Phil's other nickname Jose for Merlino ? Lol


No “ but it’s strange how young many here must be because they didn’t know Skinny as a late teen early to mid-twenty’s it was a very different time for him , not that he was the only cat to act like that . We all have someone in the neighborhood , but with a guy like that “ its just lots worse when its a kid of a underboss and the kid pushes everyone and everything.

Look the guy has nine fucken lives ... should of been killed five times or more .... should of been put away for life at least five times .... got to give to the little guy .

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Re: Phil Leonetti valutainment interview [Re: Serpiente] #990682
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This Joey Merlino is the biggest scumbag in Philly by far. He has disrespected more guys than anyone ever. He keeps a bunch of brown losers around him for reasons that are unknown. Still can not believe that none off them flipped and joined the FBI yet??? Anyway this guy besides robbing the Pungitur house also robbed his father while his father was in prison. Hundreds of thousands off dollars. He also fucked his fathers goomad who lived in Drexel Hill. His father was in love with her and he was fucking her. What kind of man of honor is this. He was in business with Black Mafia members. Whatever anyone could do wrong this guy did it. For people to want to give this douchebag any respect than they must not have a clue about this way of life. But the saying what comes around goes around usually happens. While he was in jail his Asian wife became impregnated by a BLACK football player who played with either the Giants or Jets. She was also fucking a guy who had one leg. You do what you don in life and you get what you get. The only reason why he ever rose up was because the FBI took the Stanfa crew out. When Stanfa was on the street Joey and his guys would not even go out at night because they were worried about Stanfa's guys getting them. Is this what Gangsters do??? They are the biggest joke in the USA.

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Well if that's only reason they ran shit someone woulda took it over by now huh? Alot guys do dumb shit when they are young. Even more guys get cheated on when they do 5 plus years. Joey was in media at a very young age for the life and yea he fucked up alof buf it amazes me how many people say he was a punk or worst person ever or him and his boys aint shit and my response to anyone saying that is why are you or someone else running Philly after all this time then?

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@phillyguy39 so mafia bosses can hang around jewish, irish, Asian and Russian gangsters but they can't hang around black gangster???? Yo must be joking, merlino and crew literally shot thier way to the top, all the ex stands and scarfo guys that's on the streets gives merlino an envelope, c'mon.


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When you cheat on your partner you also cheat on your family, if my father's side chick looks good, I would fuck her too just to show my father he betrayed the family for a whore


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Hey Serp,, ran into a few guys down still close to ur way..yrs. ago u said I (might ) know some dudes cause I mentioned Vince Sausto...does Michael Barbere from Liberty Terrace ring an old bell??..or I know u gotta know Frank Formica...u grew up w/ him...or maybe a certain spanish old head Adam Santos..& of course ur good friend Alan Angeloni...all good ppl....Liberty Terrace not as good looking as 10 yrs. ago.. but Frank think's there is still hope 4 good ol' Ducktown.& ..Frank said he hung out w/ you & Phillip as alter boys & so on up till surfing late in the yrs...Frank is now some kind of A.C.Treasure or minor politico...Never lites his cigar..but likes 2 know it's a big one.....LOL...


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Frank is same as a boy ... that Michael he was much younger then us but a good kid always doing someone’s floor in there house .. and i think Frank just has a love affair for Ducktown....it’s never coming back.


Frank has the pictures of back then and back to the days when our families used animals horse and buggy type stuff.

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Originally Posted by Serpiente
Frank is same as a boy ... that Michael he was much younger then us but a good kid always doing someone’s floor in there house .. and i think Frank just has a love affair for Ducktown....it’s never coming back.


Frank has the pictures of back then and back to the days when our families used animals horse and buggy type stuff.

Your older than Mike B,,,??get the fuck outta here....I did not know....also saw where bidabeep lost in those games & the Blade came in & took over so the poor guy coulnt lose no more...Thanx 4 ur input Serp!!!


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Hood i am in my late 60’s and hate to say it , but
still feel 40 .

Did you all catch who Phil said his best friend was and who his friend was ?

I knew he was tight with two guys that were not made other then guys in neighborhood he grew up with and trusted . This is just one of many things he slipped saying or didn’t realize what he was saying didn’t mix with his book .

Them of course i would say stuff that did or didn’t jive with his book and people would point fingers saying that i was wrong , but fact is he didn’t tell it or he twisted it or his editor mixed up something but no doubt he left tons of stuff .

Between his book and O.C. Bars you would think he told it all but no way he still says something new each time he does a interview and they really need someone to ask real questions.

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Hey Serp,thanks for insight. Interested to hear what you didn't believe about Phil's book ,with all autobiographies there is always some level of exaggeration but Phil's book I always thought was more believable then the majority I have read.I give him credit because he speaks very highly of Chuckie and yogi to the point he was gonna take out Nicky ,no need to lie they are all dead but speaks poorly of Skinny who is still alive and can reach family etc.Also a couple of questions if you don't mind ,any yogi stories seemed like he spent alot of time on Georgia ave and was character/ likeable guy.Also any stories about the King of the jews .
Thank you.

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He speaks about them like that because they were tight and Phil knows they fucked up killing guys and he knows if not for all those murders the heat would not of been so bad and all the little shit guys did wouldn’t of been so bad like Chuckie when drinking ... that should of been just a big deal not what it was.

If you are talking about Saul he was pretty popular and would see him at Teddy’s talking with Teddy and Sherry at corner of the bar often. It’s wasn’t like it is now....we had no clue anyone knew about what was what or that any of this would matter .



There was no internet and when shit hit papers it was just normal so we didn’t pay any attention to anyone that we knew...it was just another day on the block.

Yogi was around but around more then most ... it was the 70’s and 80’s and we were doing same shit everyone was doing good and bad and the endless comps we had back then was unbelievable.... Yogi would disappear when he was in the doghouse with Nick or his wife , but the drinking got him out and all the other stuff kept him out .... think you can read between lines.

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Originally Posted by Malavita

Finally, in the itw, he said Phil Testa made Pete Casella Underboss and not Scarfo because Casella was Sicilian like Testa (Scarfo being Calabrian). I don't think that was the reason. My guess is that Testa knew Scarfo had a lot of power and was close to NY so makin him the Nr.2 would have threatened his leadership. We all know what happen then.


I disagree for a couple of reasons.

I think if Testa seriously considered Scarfo a threat rather than an ally we would know about it already through Leonetti (either in his book, interviews or in the information he provided to reports from the NJ SCI). We haven't seen any information to lead us to believe that Testa and Scarfo's relationship was strained at this point and in fact, the evidence we do have points to the contrary.

I.e., Scarfo pushing for Testa to become boss in the mid-late 1970s; Testa wanting Scarfo to replace Joe Rugnetta as consigliere; Scarfo siding with Testa in his dispute with Bruno; Scarfo promoting Testa to take over following Bruno's murder; their joint involvement in killing threats to their new leadership (John Simone, Frank Sindone).

Regarding the Sicilian and Calabrian factions, Leonetti's claim is supported. From 1959 to 1981 you have an uninterrupted pattern when it comes to the top administration positions. Angelo Bruno and Phil Testa were Sicilians and they chose fellow Sicilians as their underbosses (Ignazio Denaro and Testa for Bruno; Casella for Testa). The consigliere on the other hand was always Calabrian (Rugnetta, Caponigro, Scarfo). In the case of the Philadelphia family, the position of consigliere in the 1960s and 1970s was viewed as not simply the number three man in the hierarchy but as the head of the Calabrian faction. When Joe Rugnetta died in 1977, the only serious* contenders to replace him were all Calabrians (Testa wanted Scarfo, others speculated that Nicholas Piccolo would get it and, finally, the Calabrian faction chose Caponigro for the position). One could make the argument that, while the consigliere is often generalised as the number three role in the family, the consigliere can hold more influence than the underboss at any time (e.g., Philip Rastelli considered Stefano Cannone, his consigliere, as his number two). The general consensus appears to be that Scarfo, as consigliere, carried more weight in the family than Casella did as underboss.

Casella also didn't come out of nowhere. His appointment was a surprise and, ultimately, a very bad decision but it wasn't without reason. Casella was a long-time member who had done considerable prison time for the family and he had also set up a couple of meetings for Testa in New York after Bruno was killed.



*while not seriously considered for the role, the Sicilian Antonio Pollina made it known he wanted to be consigliere after Rugnetta and was politely turned down by Bruno


People from the southern most point of Calabria are very similar to the people of Sicily and vice versa. While the people from northern Calabria are more similar to Neapolitans. I just wanted to throw that in there.

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