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Who are the oldest Mafia members? FEB 2020 #986194
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Colombo family:

Sonny Franzese (103)
Albert Gallo (89)

Genovese family:

Larry Dentico (96)
Dom Cirillo (90)
Bobby Manna (90)
Charlie Tuzzo (86)

Gambino family:

Louis Ricco (91)
George DeCicco (90)
Thomas Gambino (90)
Frank Locascio (87)

Lucchese family:

Sal Avellino (84)
Matty Madonna (84)

Bonanno family:

Vinny Asaro (85)

DeCavalcante family:

Gaetano Vastola (91)

Patriarca family:

Luigi Manocchio (92)

Re: Who are the oldest Mafia members? FEB 2020 [Re: TheDon1999] #986213
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Frankie Locascio. Born in 1933(87). One of the last made prior to the books being closed in the 50s.

Re: Who are the oldest Mafia members? FEB 2020 [Re: TheDon1999] #986222
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Philadelphia family:

Dominic Rugnetta (96)
Vincent "Beepsie" Centorino (89)

Chicago Outfit

Joseph Andriacchi (88)
Marco d'Amico (84)
Lawrence Pettit (92)

Re: Who are the oldest Mafia members? FEB 2020 [Re: TheDon1999] #986224
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Larry Dentico is he still active Capo or is he retired?

Re: Who are the oldest Mafia members? FEB 2020 [Re: JimmyNapoli66] #986227
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Originally Posted by JimmyNapoli66
Larry Dentico is he still active Capo or is he retired?


What's he gonna do? Gum people to death?


I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
Re: Who are the oldest Mafia members? FEB 2020 [Re: Moe_Tilden] #986228
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Thomas "Sonny" Ciancutti, Pittsburgh (90)

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Re: Who are the oldest Mafia members? FEB 2020 [Re: Moe_Tilden] #986230
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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted by JimmyNapoli66
Larry Dentico is he still active Capo or is he retired?


What's he gonna do? Gum people to death?

You are funny guy.

Re: Who are the oldest Mafia members? FEB 2020 [Re: TheDon1999] #986233
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Al Gallo is with the Genovese not the Colombo’s.

Re: Who are the oldest Mafia members? FEB 2020 [Re: TheDon1999] #986246
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Did you hear about the 80 yr old mobster who'll make you an offer he can't remember?
How about the one who, Instead of sleeping with the fishes,sleeps with a hot water bottle.
He's always accompanied by at least 2 men,Ben Gay and Arthur Itis.
When one of his guys gives him an envelope, he has to use both hands to lift it.

Re: Who are the oldest Mafia members? FEB 2020 [Re: Moe_Tilden] #986387
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If the guy's a captain in an NYC family what does he need youth or physical strength for? No one is going to fuck with him without the boss's permission.


Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted by JimmyNapoli66
Larry Dentico is he still active Capo or is he retired?


What's he gonna do? Gum people to death?

Re: Who are the oldest Mafia members? FEB 2020 [Re: Fleming_Ave] #986706
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are you sure albert gallo is alive, the old gallo soldier that went with him to the genovese's is dead punchy illiano.



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
Re: Who are the oldest Mafia members? FEB 2020 [Re: TheDon1999] #986717
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How many of these guys were made prior to the books being closed in the late 50s? Sonny Franzese, Frank Locascio, Bobby Manna, possibly Luigi Manocchio?

Re: Who are the oldest Mafia members? FEB 2020 [Re: TheDon1999] #986721
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I bet every boss of each family has and knows the exact count of guys made pre 70ty books opening. Its probaly a good thing for the family. Say barney asks his consig how many guys we have made before 1975 the consig would probaly know. Im betting theres probaly a few in each family. Genovese probaly have the most. Some guys close to 100 made in the 50tys. Maybe a handfull

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Gambinos had that guy stephan grammuta or something hes probaly dead. That guy petey 17 died recently he was made back then. Probaly obscure guys never even got arrested. There was a genovese guys fro. Yonkers he was a hitman for fat tony his firat arrest came like in his 80tys a few years back. He was recorded saying he was inducted in 1947 when he was 18yrs old or close. I cant remeber the name think he died recently

Re: Who are the oldest Mafia members? FEB 2020 [Re: pmac] #986751
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Originally Posted by pmac
Gambinos had that guy stephan grammuta or something hes probaly dead. That guy petey 17 died recently he was made back then. Probaly obscure guys never even got arrested. There was a genovese guys fro. Yonkers he was a hitman for fat tony his firat arrest came like in his 80tys a few years back. He was recorded saying he was inducted in 1947 when he was 18yrs old or close. I cant remeber the name think he died recently


http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2011/01/feds-age-didnt-deter-mobster-suspect.html

Feds: Age didn’t deter mobster suspect Daniel Cilenti, 83

January 27, 2011 Dapper_Don
When most of his octogenarian compatriots might have long retired, 83-year-old Daniel Cilenti was still hard at work.

Too hard, federal prosecutors say.
Cilenti, prosecutors say, has been a Genovese family soldier since the Truman administration, and was accused of shaking down a construction industry figure, forcing him to pony up if he wanted any work in the metro area.
The Yonkers man was among the oldest of the 127 reputed mob members and associates charged last week in a historic crackdown by federal authorities.
Cilenti told a man who turned out to be a mob informant that he was formally inducted into the Genovese family in 1947
— the same year Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier in baseball and Perry Como's "Chi-Baba, Chi-Baba" topped the Billboard charts.
"Now that's real old, old school," said Jack Garcia, the retired FBI agent who infiltrated the Gambino crime family in Westchester County several years ago and helped bring down the entire hierarchy of that organization. "Guys like that never want to hear the word 'retirement.' "
Cilenti's arrest record goes back to 1961, the year Roger Maris broke Babe Ruth's single-season home run record and President John F. Kennedy took office.
Cilenti, whose nickname according to federal authorities is "Uncle Danny," pleaded not guilty to racketeering and extortion charges in federal court in Brooklyn. He was released on $1 million bond.
His lawyer, Joel Cohen, did not return calls.
"Cilenti has thus, by his own account, been a member of this notoriously violent and dangerous criminal enterprise for more than six decades," Assistant U.S. Attorney Stephen E. Frank wrote in court papers that revealed Cilenti's alleged mob membership.
His first conviction was in 1961 in the Bronx for possessing bookmaking records. He was arrested two more times in the next four years for the same crime, but both cases were dismissed.
He was charged again in 1975, this time in a gambling conspiracy case filed by federal prosecutors. But they dropped the prosecution.
In 1988, he pleaded guilty in federal court in New Jersey in a racketeering case that authorities said was a plot to extort $450,000 from a victim.
He received probation but was eventually jailed after twice violating that probation — including once for associating with known criminals, prosecutors said.
His next arrest came in 1994. That time he pleaded guilty to loansharking charges and was sentenced in 1998 to 30 months in prison.
He was released early from prison in 2000 at the age of 73 by the Federal Bureau of Prisons due, in part, to failing health caused by diabetes and heart disease.
"These guys know how to work the system," said Garcia, who worked his way into the inner circle of Gregory DePalma, another aging mobster who lightened his prison load due to poor health. "They're healthy as can be until it's time to appear in court. Then they look like death warmed over."
Five years later, Cilenti was charged in another major Genovese case, this time along with reputed one-time acting boss of the family Mathew "Matty the Horse" Ianniello.
Those charges stemmed from a plot to derail a federal probe into the family, including its alleged hooks into a school bus drivers' union.
Cilenti pleaded guilty in federal court to conspiracy and in 2007 received a sentence of probation that included electronic monitoring.
But just two hours after receiving the electronic ankle bracelet Nov. 15, 2007, in his Yonkers home, Cilenti was on the phone to his probation officer, complaining of pain and swelling in his legs.
A probation officer noted in court papers that Cilenti had stents in both legs and the bracelet was causing protrusions.
A federal judge ordered the ankle bracelet removed Dec. 17, 2007.
That same day Cilenti met with the construction industry executive he was extorting and discussed how he and another defendant, Peter Pace of Patterson, would arrange for trucking work for the victim if he paid them a kickback, prosecutors said.
Cilenti told the victim the job would go to him rather than a competitor, according to a partial transcript of a recording.
"I don't care, even if his prices are lower than yours. Understand?" Cilenti said, according to the transcript. "But we gotta know what we're doing."
Cilenti faces up to 20 years in prison if convicted.
But prison terms don't faze hard-core old-time mobsters, Garcia said.
"It's part of the life. Prison's like a spa to them," he said. "They're in it for life."

http://www.lohud.com/article/201101...deter-mobster-suspect-Daniel-Cilenti--83

Re: Who are the oldest Mafia members? FEB 2020 [Re: TheDon1999] #986752
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pkil modica still alive?

Re: Who are the oldest Mafia members? FEB 2020 [Re: Binnie_Coll] #986760
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Originally Posted by Binnie_Coll
are you sure albert gallo is alive, the old gallo soldier that went with him to the genovese's is dead punchy illiano.

Al Gallo is still alive

Re: Who are the oldest Mafia members? FEB 2020 [Re: pmac] #986780
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Originally Posted by pmac
Gambinos had that guy stephan grammuta or something hes probaly dead.


Stephen "Stevie Coogan" Grammauta. According to Wikipedia he died in 2016. He was rumored to be one of the shooters in the Anastasia hit in the barbershop. Also he was on the ruling panel of the Gambinos.

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Re: Who are the oldest Mafia members? FEB 2020 [Re: TheDon1999] #986788
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I know this is no comparrison. But i bet in any family if the guy was made before the 70tys hes some type of celeb in there circles. So every boss would know exactly who is and probaly there 1 or 2 here n there.sonny franzese is one

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Louis Ricco died sometime last year if we are talking about Louie braciole Ricco

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Mario Gigante is 96


"It wasn't very good parsley to begin with, and then the cat went and peed on it." -Sicilian proverb
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I remember Dom Montiglio saying he went to the funeral of Frank Scalise as a kid and dom goes back to nino gaggi, roy demeo carlo Gambino and paul castellano.

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Originally Posted by Stubbs
Mario Gigante is 96


Recent pic

https://www.facebook.com/1145032825...lder-brother-of-the-lat/245279166161159/


"The king is dead, long live the king!"
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he looked well in the picture hes rich to

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Mario's lawyer was Roy Cohn.


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thats crazy roy cohn. i cant get into the doc but i will give it a second chane i was drunk the first go or on coke

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i just looked up gerald shargel he retired 2 yrs back i wonder whose the number 1 mob lawyer today. the lcuchese guys had some of the best they lost on a easy case i thought

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Genovese capo Charlie Tuzzo passed away in July.


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Originally Posted by Hollander
Genovese capo Charlie Tuzzo passed away in July.


Do you know how old Chuckie was? Had to be in his late 80's early 90's? I think he was born around 1931, 32. something like that

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