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Re: alliance b/Scoppa bros.&Violi bros.(2016-2017)??? [Re: MolochioInduced] #986161
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Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
Do you know who long he was in Mexico? Wonder if he planned the murders of Sollecito and Giordano from Mexico.


Not sure how long he also stayed in Peru for a while. But February 2017 he was back in Quebec, when he was shot by a gunman in the parking lot of a restaurant in Terrebonne, of which the alleged hitman Frédérick Silva is currently accused.


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Thanks bro. What a tight timeframe, these guys are/were pros. Either plotting to take someone out, or avoiding being taken out themselves.

It’s nearly impossible to chart the implications Internationally, since this started, to think at one point this is how people participate in the business of alcohol 🍺🍸🍷, it’s amazing!

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Re: alliance b/Scoppa bros.&Violi bros.(2016-2017)??? [Re: VitoCahill] #986166
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Also, strange thing about the Bacchus Patch, is that it represents some Boy Love or Brothers and Lovers from the Byzantine side of Rome???

Which is strange, because in certain beliefs systems, the split of Rome at Constantinople, under Emperor Constantine, was the separating of the Light vs Dark. The Gargoyle that represents the Joslin Martial Arts is in reference to the Dark Side (Byzantine), via the demon Belzeebub, Masonic stuff.

This stuff is little out there, and I take it with a grain of salt, but the people that I’m observing and chatting with, seem to know something related to all this.




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Re: alliance b/Scoppa bros.&Violi bros.(2016-2017)??? [Re: MolochioInduced] #986221
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Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
Thanks bro. What a tight timeframe, these guys are/were pros. Either plotting to take someone out, or avoiding being taken out themselves.


Vito before his death feared this would happen, but he liked Andrew Scoppa. Leo Rizzuto was also against hitting the Scoppa's but that probably changed when Spagnolo and Sollecito were eliminated.


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That’s interesting, I have heard that they were cool as well, until they weren’t. It’s understandable, considering the markets they’re in.

It makes people wonder more about Verducci, seems like he had a lot of influence, and that he was killed over gambling. I have heard that the consortium that was part of the Platinum, was also in on the Casino, in the sense of a very mini Vegas, with DeGroote. When Rizzuto died, that type of money available, as well as outstanding debt=massive leverage, can be worth killing for. Like Rizzuto, the removal of Verducci seemed to create instability, he must have been fairly important.

Francesco Acardi and Rocco Sollecito immigrated to Canada from Southern Italy , like most original Rizzuto. Did they have connections with Calabrese/Southern Italian in Woodbridge, good or bad? It’s like a fraternal order to itself lol

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i am having a hard time understanding this hamilton drug pipeline/jump off point business.
why would Vito Rizzuto who seemingly had total control over possibly the busiest drug port in all of north america import narcotics into hamilton,on???
furthermore why would any drug importer continually use the same city let alone what was it a mma gym to traffic drugs???

there are too many examples of all the different ways members of import networks use to bring there chosen cargo into the country.
port of MTL,port of valleyfield,by transport truck from buffalo,akwesasne/cornwall,sailboats,airplanes etc...

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Originally Posted by MolochioInduced

Francesco Acardi and Rocco Sollecito immigrated to Canada from Southern Italy , like most original Rizzuto. Did they have connections with Calabrese/Southern Italian in Woodbridge, good or bad? It’s like a fraternal order to itself lol



There are wiretaps of Acardi and Carmelo Bruzzese, influential 'ndrangheta leader. On October 2, 2015, Bruzzese was extradited to Rome.


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Drugs flow both way, from USA to Canada, and vice versa. I believe it was suppose to be some super fitness facility, martial arts was part of the operation. In theory it was suppose to be a very profitable front, it wasn’t in the end.

Hamilton I don’t believe is/was the final destination, or suppose to be the new metropolis, rather a major nexus, as well some symbolism/nostalgia. From what I gathered, it was another way to establish/take over Ontario for Rizzuto, but with his death, it fell apart quickly.

From this discussion and others, it appears that the Platinum, and other betting books are likely more important than a failed opportunity to flood a market, to all of this.

It’s the damage to people from Hamilton or associated with it that, that has been brought to my intention. It’s amazing that in the matter of 5 years, all this has happened, when for almost 20 years nothing.

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Thanks!


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I agree about martial arts lol.


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Originally Posted by Hollander
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Francesco Acardi and Rocco Sollecito immigrated to Canada from Southern Italy , like most original Rizzuto. Did they have connections with Calabrese/Southern Italian in Woodbridge, good or bad? It’s like a fraternal order to itself lol



There are wiretaps of Acardi and Carmelo Bruzzese, influential 'ndrangheta leader. On October 2, 2015, Bruzzese was extradited to Rome.

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Francesco Acardi and Rocco Sollecito immigrated to Canada from Southern Italy , like most original Rizzuto. Did they have connections with Calabrese/Southern Italian in Woodbridge, good or bad? It’s like a fraternal order to itself lol



There are wiretaps of Acardi and Carmelo Bruzzese, influential 'ndrangheta leader. On October 2, 2015, Bruzzese was extradited to Rome.


Do you know if Carmelo is related to Nicodemo Bruzzese who was arrested in a narcotics smuggling ring involving the Buffalo mob? The article said he, Carman Barillaro, and Dominic Vaccaro “were said to be "made members" of a Hamilton-based Mafia family that reports to Buffalo organized-crime leaders." Would they have been the Papalia family? Here is a link to the article: https://buffalonews.com/1990/09/07/...ught-canadian-arrests-tied-to-local-mob/

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The use of Hamilton as a major nexus for the distribution of narcotics and other illicit goods, at least over the course of history seems to have some validity.

It has been explained that any traffic at the Niagara Falls or Lewiston crossing, coming/going to Toronto must cross through Hamilton. It appears that the Windsor/Detroit crossing there is two Highway options, only one requires crossing through Hamilton. That makes Hamilton important, for contraband going both sides of the border. Also, once you get north of Toronto and keep going, you can cross into Quebec at Kirkland Lake, or drive right across the country in the other direction, all the way to BC.

The super sports facility was suppose to contain martial arts, as well as other things. I believe that after Rizzuto return, obtained Vendetta, and was back in charge, the market decided that this was doable, meetings, and subsequent promises/agreements formed. For Rizzuto it solidified his place, and gave major influence over Ontario. He died before the project got any traction.

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Also I believe that the HA killed in April 2019 was collecting betting debts, as well as the recent major Ndragheta and HA bust were gambling related, something I overlooked for sure.

It definitely helps to fill in gaps, as well, as probably ideas as where the deals have been struck to create the current stability.


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Boxing Clubs, at least in the past, was traditionally used as Mob fronts, and places to recruit talent/labor. I think there was a Genovese guy that was responsible for boxing, and that the mob tried to kill Don King.

Form what I’ve observed and have been told, MMA Clubs, provide a similar service to 1%er. I don’t know about Europe, but as far as North and South America is concerned that tends to be the case. In a distribution scenario, it’s not difficult to assume, that networks like that can make kilos of whatever flip over quickly, and discreetly. Hamilton and it’s long history of criminals and martial arts, in theory was a perfect pairing.

It’s part of the criminal subculture, from observations that seems to be prevalent in most ecosystems, prize fighting and crooks=$


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So who would have gave the order to wack Ranieri while he was in Mexico? Sorry just trying to follow all of this

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Originally Posted by NickleCity
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Francesco Acardi and Rocco Sollecito immigrated to Canada from Southern Italy , like most original Rizzuto. Did they have connections with Calabrese/Southern Italian in Woodbridge, good or bad? It’s like a fraternal order to itself lol



There are wiretaps of Acardi and Carmelo Bruzzese, influential 'ndrangheta leader. On October 2, 2015, Bruzzese was extradited to Rome.

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Francesco Acardi and Rocco Sollecito immigrated to Canada from Southern Italy , like most original Rizzuto. Did they have connections with Calabrese/Southern Italian in Woodbridge, good or bad? It’s like a fraternal order to itself lol



There are wiretaps of Acardi and Carmelo Bruzzese, influential 'ndrangheta leader. On October 2, 2015, Bruzzese was extradited to Rome.


Do you know if Carmelo is related to Nicodemo Bruzzese who was arrested in a narcotics smuggling ring involving the Buffalo mob? The article said he, Carman Barillaro, and Dominic Vaccaro “were said to be "made members" of a Hamilton-based Mafia family that reports to Buffalo organized-crime leaders." Would they have been the Papalia family? Here is a link to the article: https://buffalonews.com/1990/09/07/...ught-canadian-arrests-tied-to-local-mob/


Could well be a relative, but I didn't find more about Nick Bruzzese. Carmelo Bruzzese gained much of his credibility and influence with both organizations through his birthplace of Calabria and his marriage to a Sicilian woman.


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Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
Boxing Clubs, at least in the past, was traditionally used as Mob fronts, and places to recruit talent/labor. I think there was a Genovese guy that was responsible for boxing, and that the mob tried to kill Don King.


In Holland it was the same with kickboxing untill a few years ago, but the sport has become so mainstream and big now it's unlikely the underworld has the influence they used to have.

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Cool, I didn’t no for sure about Europa, K1 or Glory kickboxing, I assume is what you’re referring to.

MMA was only legalized in Ontario in 2010?? It was slated to be the MECCA of MMA, and described as the biggest consumer market in the world. It’s been a big failure as well, some government issue, I believe. Prior to that fights would occur on the 6 Nations Reserve, it was no surprise to see tables of full Patch HA and full Patch Red Devils(Bacchus) at the events.

More of a boxing guy myself, just because of age lol

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That a great question about Ranieri, since he was looking to be included in the attempted Serrano/murder of Musitano. Someone should ask the only arrested/surviving known member of the plot, Jabil Abdalla.

If he was only loyal to Bravo, and Bravo was killed 2013, could he of survived that long, as some renegades?? Maybe Wolfpack??


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Additional information about Vince Poole, seems he has a brother Chris Poole, who is an constable, interesting link between, cops and criminals, via family.

Another link, it’s in the Google, it’s not attained from LE, by myself.

https://vmcdn.ca/files/elliotlaketo...ign=sootoday.com&utm_medium=referral

Also the manager of the Sports Facility name was Jim Flood, high level 1%er associate, was fear in the 90’s up until a terrible car accident. He is a legendary martial arts, as well as successful franchiser, who sold over 15 martial arts schools. In February 2014 we was looking to get a loan of 100k + from the Musitano, I don’t know if he did, if there was a plan to kill them, getting a loan before it happens, would of made sense.

The rumour is that whoever were looking to kill Ang Musitano in April 2014, the only trigger that seems to prevent it, was the murder of Verducci??

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my guess would be the Rizzuto's who had ranieri murdered.
the Rizzuto's have the furthest global reach even still and had the contacts and ability to murder moreno gallo in mexico 2013.
ranieri was a threat to those loyal to the Rizzuto's having been so close to juan ramon fernandez.

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So this kid Abdalla who is the only remaining guy left in the musitano and serrano murder is sitting in jail in Canada. Is the government pressuring him to cooperate? If this took place in the US the feds would be pressuring the fuck out of him to flip. We havnt beard a word about him. He has to be scared for his life considering the other members of the plot have been murdered. He’s really in a bad position either he becomes a rat or he takes his chances on being stand up and hope he isn’t killed lol I wouldn’t wanna be in his shoes

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I don’t know how the Canadians do it, regarding, pressure on prisoner to talk. The police had multiple press conferences already.

Interesting point about these two murders is that the FBI, DEA and Homeland, helped solved the case. It seems in Canada, that didn’t set off any warnings. In the USA, if those agencies were involved people would want to know why????

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...itano-murder-police-hunt-for-two-others/


https://www.chch.com/accused-killers-bail-hearing/

It would great to hear the evidence, how are Musitano/Serrano related? Both targeted? The triggers from Hamilton? Also Serrano targeted before Musitano??

https://www.caledonenterprise.com/n...ter-daniele-ranieri-confirmed-dead-rcmp/

Article says Ranieri fled to Mexico 2015, found dead in 2018, if Rizzuto died in 2013, do you mean the remaining members of Rizzuto had Ranieri killed??

Would Desjardin have any influence to make street moves in the earlier part of this? Don’t know if powerful prisoners can still participate in business from prison, like Americans do. If so, could he of been working with Ranieri??

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yes i meant the Rizzuto/Sollecito faction of the MTL mafia could have been behind murder of ranieri.
as far as desjardins being involved from jail that is a possibility considering the state of prisons in Canada.

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The last confirmed sighting of Dark Danny Ranieri was in Havana, Cuba around Christmas in 2015.
“It’s definitely a Calabrian/’Ndrangheta Mafia War,” well-known mob observer James Dubro told The Toronto Sun. “It’s three or four cells competing for cocaine routes and power in the GTA. This is very big.”


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daniele ranieris name did come up in the trial of giuseppe ursino being mentioned by cosmin dracea in wiretaps.
have never been able to figure out who he was working with in toronto amongst the 'ndrangheta.

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That is wild, Ursino case had an informant??
Also could you elaborate on the prison system in Canada, plz?

Desjardin was target to be killed by Mom Boucher and Gregory Woolley, I believe? The removal of Woolley from the street, similar to Rizzuto and Verducci could also be a stimulus in all this.

Boucher was/is in prison and seems to be able to still make money and operate in the streets. I just assume he was an outlier for obvious reasons.

Would Desjardin be able to operate similarly? if so, then these men should never be not considered still involved in all this. What else do they have going for them.

Flying a kite in prison, is more than likely the same everywhere, makes sense.

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Also since Bravo was also well received in the 1% in Ontario, could Ranieri been working with them, only? or as well?

Seems like Ranieri had similar traction as Bravo, with those groups.


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When does Deajardins get out? I mean the guy has to be worried that he will be hit as soon as he sets foot out of prison. I think things will get very interesting when he gets out. Leonardo Rizzuto and those guy’s must hold him responsible for a lot of the damage/killings that the rizzutos have gone through. I don’t think there’s anyway they would make peace with him. Also I would love to know who is still backing/with desjardins.

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Ray will be released in the summer of '23.


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