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Most mob controlled industry #983398
12/26/19 01:47 AM
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In your opinions which industry did the mafia most dominate in its heyday? Which industry do they still have a strong presence?

Trucking? Garment center? Construction? Drugs?

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I’d say construction & Garment.

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Originally Posted by Shellackhead
I’d say construction & Garment.


Also the waterfront. The Mafia in New York and New Jersey remains a force on the Waterfront according to recent Commission cases.

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Garbage collection, waterfront, and gambling.

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Originally Posted by Hollander
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I’d say construction & Garment.


Also the waterfront. The Mafia in New York and New Jersey remains a force on the Waterfront according to recent Commission cases.


Wasn’t aware of that, I thought most Waterfront unions have been taken over and supervised by the Federal Government.

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Originally Posted by Shellackhead
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I’d say construction & Garment.


Also the waterfront. The Mafia in New York and New Jersey remains a force on the Waterfront according to recent Commission cases.


Wasn’t aware of that, I thought most Waterfront unions have been taken over and supervised by the Federal Government.


All five of the New York City crime families, plus the New Jersey DeCavalcantes and the Philadelphia mob have people placed in the port, according to Walter Arsenault, executive director of the Waterfront Commission of New York Harbor. The Genovese family controls the New Jersey side, according to Arsenault.


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Agency created to fight organized crime on New York, New Jersey docks may be pushed out
UPDATED ON: JUNE 22, 2018 / 12:10 PM / CBS NEWS

Marlon Brando starred in the 1954 movie "On the Waterfront" as a dockworker who turned against corruption. Sixty-four years later, the agency created to clean up organized crime on the real waterfront is fighting to survive.

The Port of New York and New Jersey processes nearly seven million cargo containers a year, delivering more than $200 billion in goods across America. New Jersey recently passed a law to close the Waterfront Commission of New York Harbor, a historic anti-corruption force.

It's already the busiest port on the East Coast, and now the cranes and docks of New York Harbor are poised to get even busier as giant new ships arrive from around the world, reports CBS News correspondent Tony Dokoupil. But the modern waterfront still hasn't shaken its criminal past, according to the watchdog group responsible for fighting organized crime on the docks.

"I like to say if you watch 'On the Waterfront,' not much has changed, except the waterfront is now in color," Walter Arsenault said.

Arsenault is executive director of the Waterfront Commission of New York Harbor, a special bi-state agency created in 1953 to fight the type of institutional corruption that was prevalent back when his grandfather worked there.

"New York is blessed, if that's the right word, in quotes, with five organized crime families," Arsenault said, adding all the families are in some ways "absolutely" connected to the port.

As a choke point in the global economy, the port has historically been exploited by criminals who force payoffs and other kickbacks by controlling who unloads the ships and how quickly. That's still the case, Arsenault said.

"The crazy thing about the waterfront is you tell people about it, and they look at you and say, 'Now that can't be true. There's no way that's true,'" Arsenault said.

His organization has identified some 400 longshoremen getting special deals from the shipping companies worth $117 million a year – some for work they rarely do.

"There are people who, under the agreement, are getting paid 24 hours a day?" Dokoupil asked.

"Twenty-seven hours a day because they miss meals allegedly. They get an hour meal credit for breakfast, lunch and dinner. So they're actually paid 27 hours a day, 365 days a year," Arsenault said.

Longshoreman Paul Moe held one such job, earning $493,000 a year, until he was convicted of fraud and sentenced to federal prison in March.

"He collected his weekly salary when he was in Aruba. He collected his weekly salary when he was in Florida," Arsenault said. "He collected his salary when he was at the movies, when he was with his girlfriend. He collected his salary mostly when he wasn't there."

The commission said these special jobs are "almost always filled with favored individuals... and connected to union leaders or organized crime." They also increase the cost of everything from coffee to cars.

"Who pays those costs?" Dokoupil asked.

"The consumers. It gets passed onto the consumers," Arsenault said.

"Are we talking about tens of millions?"

"Easily," Arsenault responded.

Former New Jersey state Sen. Ray Lesniak led the effort to shut down the commission.

"They sound like the good guys," Dokoupil said.

"They do sound like the good guys. But they're not," Lesniak said. "Because they are corrupting the legitimate business practices and trying to interfere with them. That's un-American."

Lesniak's father became a longshoreman before they had the protection of organized labor, which he says is the commission now threatens.

"They're tryin' to break the union. The unions have made America strong. My Dad didn't get the benefits because he didn't have a strong union. You do not need to break the back of labor unions in order to drive out corruption anywhere," Lesniak said.

As a state senator, he led the push to transfer the Waterfront Commission's responsibilities to the New Jersey State Police.

"I want the money that's the– going to the Waterfront Commission, $12 million a year, to go to the New Jersey attorney general's office, where they have better tools to do what the Waterfront Commission is doing, without interfering with the legitimate business practices," Lesniak said.

"How is it legitimate for somebody to not show up at work and be paid 24 or even 27 hours a day?" Dokoupil asked.

"It's wrong," Lesniak said. "What are you gonna do about – how're you gonna stop that? That's times--"

"That's the Waterfront Commission's mission."

"No it's not. No it's not," Lesniak said. "They have no authority over the labor agreement. That's between the terminal operators, the shipping assoc– see, that's the problem."

Asked whether this is a labor, not criminal issue, Arsenault said, "Our enabling statute is to end corrupt hiring practices. And I can't think of a more corrupt hiring practice than discriminatory hiring."

Over the past year the Waterfront Commission has revoked, denied or forced the withdrawal of work applications from people associated with all five of New York's notorious crime families. Arsenault said he's not worried about taking this issue on.

"I've been a prosecutor. In my past life when I was at the Department of Investigation, I did political corruption and organized crime. When I was at the Manhattan D.A.'s office, I specialized in violent drug gangs," Arsenault said. "It's what I do."


The associations representing the shipping companies and dockworkers declined to comment. So did the largest terminal operators.

The Waterfront Commission said many dockworkers are angry about the special dealing but are afraid that if they complain, they'll end up out of work or worse. As for the bill to close the Waterfront Commission, it passed the New Jersey Legislature nearly unanimously but was recently blocked by a federal judge.

First published on June 22, 2018 / 7:46 AM
https://www.google.it/amp/s/www.cbs...york-new-jersey-docks-may-be-pushed-out/

Re: Most mob controlled industry [Re: Krsheely] #983424
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The mob had majority control over the pornography industry nationwide at one point.

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Neo, they still have their fingers there but not like it was back in the 50s through 80s. They are still big in many forms of adult entertainment especially when gambling and drugs are near by.

The waterfront, unions, waste management, sanitation. They have their fingers in many industries.


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I won't say they controlled Wall Street, but they made millions with stocks.


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My guess would be trash in nyc nj. They ownes that shit. Turned garbage into gold then they got in ahead of the recycling boom. There making money off of peoples throw away card board and shit. Crazy. Maybe not today but in the past

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Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Neo, they still have their fingers there but not like it was back in the 50s through 80s. They are still big in many forms of adult entertainment especially when gambling and drugs are near by.

The waterfront, unions, waste management, sanitation. They have their fingers in many industries.

Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Neo, they still have their fingers there but not like it was back in the 50s through 80s. They are still big in many forms of adult entertainment especially when gambling and drugs are near by.

The waterfront, unions, waste management, sanitation. They have their fingers in many industries.


Everyone knows this are you a retarded fagot?

Re: Most mob controlled industry [Re: Neo] #983628
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Originally Posted by Neo
The mob had majority control over the pornography industry nationwide at one point.


I was just reading about Salvatore Locascio and his pornography scheme. I read that his operation grossed anywhere from $230 million to $650 million. Almost sounds as big as the money Franzese was allegedly bringing in for the Colombos with the gas scam.

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Originally Posted by Revis_Knicks
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The mob had majority control over the pornography industry nationwide at one point.


I was just reading about Salvatore Locascio and his pornography scheme. I read that his operation grossed anywhere from $230 million to $650 million. Almost sounds as big as the money Franzese was allegedly bringing in for the Colombos with the gas scam.


Yeah Salvatore was a monster earner and he also wasn't afraid to order hits. Ordered a hit on the son of a Genovese capo, the poor son had nothing to do with the mob, he was killed because his father pissed off Salvatore.

My guess is Sal is a bit of an asshole.

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Originally Posted by Neo
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The mob had majority control over the pornography industry nationwide at one point.


I was just reading about Salvatore Locascio and his pornography scheme. I read that his operation grossed anywhere from $230 million to $650 million. Almost sounds as big as the money Franzese was allegedly bringing in for the Colombos with the gas scam.


Yeah Salvatore was a monster earner and he also wasn't afraid to order hits. Ordered a hit on the son of a Genovese capo, the poor son had nothing to do with the mob, he was killed because his father pissed off Salvatore.

My guess is Sal is a bit of an asshole.


If that story is true then bit of an asshole is an understatement.

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Is he still active in the gambino family? He got out in 08 but seems to be keeping a low profile much like Bellomo is.

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Originally Posted by Neo
The mob had majority control over the pornography industry nationwide at one point.

At one time... absolutely. But between the Internet and Rudy and Bloomberg turning Times Square into Disney World, that's pretty much over in terms of it being a cash cow for them. I loved it when it first came on but have a hard time watching it now because I can't fk'n stand Maggie Gyllenhaal, but HBO's "The Deuce" is a pretty spot-on depiction of the area during the '70s. The writers really did their homework.


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Originally Posted by pizzaboy
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The mob had majority control over the pornography industry nationwide at one point.

At one time... absolutely. But between the Internet and Rudy and Bloomberg turning Times Square into Disney World, that's pretty much over in terms of it being a cash cow for them. I loved it when it first came on but have a hard time watching it now because I can't fk'n stand Maggie Gyllenhaal, but HBO's "The Deuce" is a pretty spot-on depiction of the area during the '70s. The writers really did their homework.


Did not get there much but the 70’s were the shit ! The entire east coast cities were open and fun and a good grooming ground for a young male for the years to come.


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The mob had majority control over the pornography industry nationwide at one point.

At one time... absolutely. But between the Internet and Rudy and Bloomberg turning Times Square into Disney World, that's pretty much over in terms of it being a cash cow for them. I loved it when it first came on but have a hard time watching it now because I can't fk'n stand Maggie Gyllenhaal, but HBO's "The Deuce" is a pretty spot-on depiction of the area during the '70s. The writers really did their homework.


Did not get there much but the 70’s were the shit ! The entire east coast cities were open and fun and a good grooming ground for a young male for the years to come.

Yup, Serp. This ain't politically correct but I really don't care. That era taught a man how to be a man. The end.


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Originally Posted by pizzaboy
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The mob had majority control over the pornography industry nationwide at one point.

At one time... absolutely. But between the Internet and Rudy and Bloomberg turning Times Square into Disney World, that's pretty much over in terms of it being a cash cow for them. I loved it when it first came on but have a hard time watching it now because I can't fk'n stand Maggie Gyllenhaal, but HBO's "The Deuce" is a pretty spot-on depiction of the area during the '70s. The writers really did their homework.


Did not get there much but the 70’s were the shit ! The entire east coast cities were open and fun and a good grooming ground for a young male for the years to come.

Yup, Serp. This ain't politically correct but I really don't care. That era taught a man how to be a man. The end.


My Father is 66 years old and grew up right over the Hudson from Times Square in Jersey. Tells me stories of hopping the bus into the city at 14 years old and being served at bars, going to peep shows, going to all his hippie 1960s concerts in the Village, smoking weed in Washington Square when they used to charge you with a Felony for it back in the day, and talks about going to McSorleys (I have still yet to ever set foot in there). He did all this from 14-17 years old back in the day in the city. I dread the direction America is heading towards in the future and I’m only 35 years old.

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Right on PB and Dante you could do almost anything and come out alright with in reason and I miss it real bad.


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I just don't see how the mob could be too active in stock trading. How many front man can you get, or how much can you have a front man invest before a regulatory agency suspects something fishy? And with a publicly traded stock they can probe each investor down to their blood type, unlike a private company where you could have silent partners. If there's a mob connection, they'll find it.


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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
I just don't see how the mob could be too active in stock trading. How many front man can you get, or how much can you have a front man invest before a regulatory agency suspects something fishy? And with a publicly traded stock they can probe each investor down to their blood type, unlike a private company where you could have silent partners. If there's a mob connection, they'll find it.


You’re right. That’s why the Italian Mafia has members who go to universities and become finance professionals, lawyers, etc. The American mafia does not do that because their power and allure has been stripped from them in recent years past. The American mafia could have infiltrated without being directly involved but I don’t think they ever did. For example, Michael in Godfather 3 I believe had controlling interests in some Wall Street investment firms. I don’t think that means he was trading penny stocks and doing pump and dump schemes.

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Originally Posted by Serpiente
Right on PB and Dante you could do almost anything and come out alright with in reason and I miss it real bad.


Most of my growing up was not in the 70s but New York/New Jersey always seemed like a ball in those times. Listening to older people in my family reminisce about those times in jersey and New York was always fun. Different world.

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