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Guys who were tolerated due to their earning's? #980890
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Who are some guys who were tolerated due to their earning's?? There are instances where a boss wanted a guy murdered but couldn't do it because of the income that was coming in by that guy or he was just likable by many others in the family.

I'll start by saying Anthony Mirra This guy was hated by most of the Bonanno family; Think he was kept around because of his uncle Al Embarrato; He uncle was a captain. Mirra could also earn to keep the bosses happy.

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Re: Guys who were tolerated due to their earning's? [Re: Zavattoni] #980897
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Mafia Summit claims that the whole commission put Carmine Lombardozzi on the carpet during Apalachin. It was one of the subjects they were supposed to discuss, implying more than the Gambinos earned a slice of his income. They decided he was too good of an earner to axe (literally) but he had been skimming.

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Originally Posted by BarrettM
Mafia Summit claims that the whole commission put Carmine Lombardozzi on the carpet during Apalachin. It was one of the subjects they were supposed to discuss, implying more than the Gambinos earned a slice of his income. They decided he was too good of an earner to axe (literally) but he had been skimming.


That is who I was going to mention. Lombardozzi was an informant as well.

Re: Guys who were tolerated due to their earning's? [Re: Zavattoni] #980960
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Tony Mirra definitely comes to mind. I'm drawing a blank on this one...

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Re: Guys who were tolerated due to their earning's? [Re: irishkaos] #980984
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Originally Posted by irishkaos
Tony Mirra definitely comes to mind. I'm drawing a blank on this one...

That's a great example. Mirra was pretty universally hated by everyone except maybe Al walker and Joey D'Amico(who eventually killed him anyway). Mad sam Destefano wasn't liked by the outfit and was never inducted by them and he was tolerated because of the money he brought in until he became too much of a problem. Roy demeo was feared but I thin was respected by most guys in the gambinos. However its no secret Pul didn't like him but was tolerated because of his erning ability and the act that he could use that crew for hits and he was also eventually killed, So many were tolerated until certain points

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Nicky Corrozzo; He was a rival of John Gotti and they both mutually hated eachother. Gotti tolerated him because he could earn. Was finally promoted to captain and rest is history.

Bill Cutolo; Sided with Orena during the Colombo war. Don't know how he lasted so long and then was promoted to Underboss. He was finally whacked on orders of Little Alphonse Persico or either Carmine Persico


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Re: Guys who were tolerated due to their earning's? [Re: Zavattoni] #981007
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there was some creep in the genovese family who was very close to vito genovese. he ran aton of clubs and porno in manhattan. everyone hated the guy. he raped girls had a kid with another made guys daughter and aton of other shit. but he kicked up so much money, i cant rememebr the guys name but like all the families wanted him dead. theres abunch about him in the merry farel files and greg scarpas. he eventually got killed in like the early 70tys he protector vito was gone i think little al said. this guy was also a capo. hes the perfect example of tolerated some one was rite about carmine the docot but i will say little al darco said in his book he was highly respected so.. maybe he was just that good of a earner. his nephews danny marino and a few other made guys. guess they didnt hold there uncle against them

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i did read that guys report about him being a secret greg scarpa in the 60tys but he stop telling also like scarpa did for awhile. scarpa stoped talking to the fbi for like 6 yrs in the 70tys. people were on to him. he was also tolerated

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Re: Guys who were tolerated due to their earning's? [Re: Zavattoni] #981020
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Pmac, you are thinking of Salvatore Granello.

John Papalia of Hamilton is a good example. There were so many in Canada that hated him since the 1960s until his death. He was a good earner since the Magaddino days and on to the new regimes that he was practically untouchable.

Paul Volpe is another.
Peter Lombardo of Detroit
Frank Borgia of Los Angeles

There are many.


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Salvatore Granello was killed in 1970 because introdused verious mobsters to fbi undercover agent and Genovese can't protect him. Another theory was that Granello vowed revenge for his son death.

http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profil...e-of-genovese-crime-family-mobster-salva

While in prison in 1968, Granello got news no parent ever wants to hear: his son Michael had been murdered. It couldn’t have been a surprise. 19-year-old Michael was a drug addict who earned his money by playing Russian roulette: He robbed members of the Mafia. Taking after his father’s violent streak, Michael once beat a mobster half to death with a baseball bat during a robbery.

The mob wasn’t having it and shot-gunned young Michael to death while he was sitting in his car.

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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Salvatore Granello was killed in 1970 because introdused verious mobsters to fbi undercover agent and Genovese can't protect him. Another theory was that Granello vowed revenge for his son death.

http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profil...e-of-genovese-crime-family-mobster-salva

While in prison in 1968, Granello got news no parent ever wants to hear: his son Michael had been murdered. It couldn’t have been a surprise. 19-year-old Michael was a drug addict who earned his money by playing Russian roulette: He robbed members of the Mafia. Taking after his father’s violent streak, Michael once beat a mobster half to death with a baseball bat during a robbery.

The mob wasn’t having it and shot-gunned young Michael to death while he was sitting in his car.



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" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
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Tony c was liked by the whole philly family why he became consig and then had half the family with him when he killed bruno. He was liked maybe not by the genovese bosses

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Jimmy burke was a hitter and earner for his bosses why wouldnt they like him. He never did anything so wrong. He would have got whacked

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Camine the doc and granello did all types of dirty stuff but the money they made saved theres lives well not in granello case.

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I have heard the same about Papalia in Canada not being loved by others in Canada, any truth to him being loved NYC. Johnny New York I think I have heard others say


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burke was a murdering dog, brought down a lot of heat.



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
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burke was a murdering dog, brought down a lot of heat.



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
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It was a mix in New York and New Jersey for John Papalia. The Bonanno family is a good example. Those that supported the Rizzutos got along great with John Papalia, those that supported the Cotronis hated him as he used that family's name in a couple of dealings and didnt give any money to the Cotronis except one time when Buffalo and Toronto made him give a percent, the Cotroni were asking for ten percent but the ruling turned into Cotroni taking twenty percent, Toronto splitting 10 percent and Buffalo getting a guy in a key legitimate business in Canada. Johnny Papalia was no fan of Phil Rastelli, Phil Ciaccone, Joe Massino, or Dominick Napolitano, but was a fan of Alphonse Indelicato due to him cheating the Rizzutos in a drug deal, Carmine Galante, Joe Zicarelli, and Gabriel Infante. The Colombos, loved by Aniello Giannattasio, John Oddo, and Charles Panarella, not a fan of his, John Misuraca, and Frank Fusco. The Gambino Family, he feared Aniello Dellacroce the two respected each other, James Failla, Angelo Mascia, Frank Perrone, and John Riccobono. Those that hated him were Paul Castellano, Paolo Gambino who made trips to Toronto and ever time he visited the city there was something that Papalia had done to cause him headaches, and Giuseppe Traina. I have not come across anything from the Genovese or Lucchese crime families on their dealings with him.


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Wow, that’s some really cool detail. That’s quite the circle to be known in whether loved or not. Any Hollywood truth related to Papalia being know similarly to the people around Jack Kennedy both showbiz talent and in wiseguys in Chicago , Tampa,New Orleans

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Ralph Cifaretto. He was a torn in everyones ass
but they Killed off richie too soon!

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Originally Posted by pmac
Camine the doc and granello did all types of dirty stuff but the money they made saved theres lives well not in granello case.


How much money could Granello have been making for people to tolerate some of the stuff he was accused of doing? He’d really have to be making what Franzese was allegedly making if not more.

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The Salvo cousins in Sicily are an example.


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