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Re: Anthony Accetturo and the New Jersey Faction [Re: Zavattoni] #991422
05/18/20 10:01 AM
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It was Joe Paterno that Michael got his start with. Taccetta also was in charge of New Jersey operations in 1973 to 1975 as an associate for the crew, since Abate was semi retired and Accetturo was arrested, it also didn't hurt that his father Angelo and uncle Joe Perna vouched for him. Also Ducks had the two associates operating Northern New Jersey since they were both vouched by top made members in New Jersey, he also got to know Accetturo and liked him that he had no problem making Accetturo the official Capo once he was made in 1976.


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Re: Anthony Accetturo and the New Jersey Faction [Re: Zavattoni] #991449
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Paterno was in the same vailsburg naighborhood as Michael T. Michael did do some work with Paterno but he also did work with Tumac who was almost an older brother to him. I think Paterno lambed it to florida and taccetta spent much more time witjh accetturo and then was officially with him. Tumac was also from newark although his early years were in orange nj where he worked for ham delasco.

Re: Anthony Accetturo and the New Jersey Faction [Re: Zavattoni] #991664
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Isn't the Luke's Jersey crew still going with the sons of some of the guys mentioned?

Did it ever come out some Luchesse informants mouth that Amuso was totally overwhelmed by Casso?

As, that seems to be stated as a fact.
I mean Amuso , wasn't boss for nothing. How do we know Casso's saying in his book that he turned down the boss job is true?

I think Amuso has been wrongly written out of his standing

Re: Anthony Accetturo and the New Jersey Faction [Re: dsd] #991676
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Originally Posted by dsd
Isn't the Luke's Jersey crew still going with the sons of some of the guys mentioned?

Did it ever come out some Luchesse informants mouth that Amuso was totally overwhelmed by Casso?

As, that seems to be stated as a fact.
I mean Amuso , wasn't boss for nothing. How do we know Casso's saying in his book that he turned down the boss job is true?

I think Amuso has been wrongly written out of his standing


Al D'Arco seems to imply Amuso was out of his depth, but that's just one guy's opinion. The fact that Amuso was chosen as boss and has been able to keep control of the family for so long says something.

And yeah, as far as I know Casso is the only one to say he turned down the boss spot (and captain spot before that). In earlier testimony, he said Amuso became boss "after discussion within the family".
https://books.google.co.nz/books?id...0russian%20organized%20crime&f=false

Re: Anthony Accetturo and the New Jersey Faction [Re: Zavattoni] #991704
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I agree with you MightyDR; Amuso had been boss for over 30 years; and he's the last boss that was confirmed by the old 1985 commission. Guy isn't stupid...

He just should have a better underboss etc. Neil Migliore; Mike Salerno; maybe Sal Avellino..

Casso was nuts..

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Re: Anthony Accetturo and the New Jersey Faction [Re: Zavattoni] #991952
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Originally Posted by Zavattoni
@Louiebynochi

You're right; He did break a rule; Tumac didn't want to kick up anymore money to Vic; and Gas. He should have just listened.

Vic would have been a good boss if he didn't have Casso around him. Who would have been a better underboss?? Neil Migliore? Mike Salerno?

I'm a good friend of one of Tony Duck's nephews (Tony Duck's brother's son). Tony Duck's nephew was not part of the life; but he has told me alot of stories about Ducks; and meeting Carmine Tramunti. I'm 27; and to hear the stuff I heard; It's amazing. He told me a story about meeting Vic Amuso. I may say something about it later on.. Gunna get permission first. I just don't like throwing things out there.


Pathetic when people try to say like they need permission to talk about someone whose been dead for 30 years and a guy who is in jail for life. Honestly who gives a fuck? It seems like you really glamorize this shit but wanting to get permission.

Re: Anthony Accetturo and the New Jersey Faction [Re: Zavattoni] #991958
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No..... What made you come out of the woods?? The last two times this past week; or so. You've been on my a**. Not going to get banned over you. I know you don't like me. Let's get back on topic here... By the way I don't glamorize the life; I just study mafiaology as a hobby.

There's a few people on this forums who don't share stuff so Idk why you getting on me about it. I've already PMed the two posters who wanted to know about what I was talking about. If it's a problem; I'll share it when I get home from work.


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Re: Anthony Accetturo and the New Jersey Faction [Re: Zavattoni] #991970
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Be on the lookout for BILLY " RATT" SHAW He calls himselt ciro from mob king Big Time Informant (c-i) took down a several people that hadnothing to do with anyone

Re: Anthony Accetturo and the New Jersey Faction [Re: Zavattoni] #991979
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J. Paterno was in the Forrest hills section of Newark, and rarely if ever left that area except to go into nyc or Florida. His go to guy was frank “the bear” basto who kept order. There’s a lot more but too much to write here. M. Taccetta was not on paterno’s radar to speak of. His entire family is connected to the lucheses one way or another. Including a government witness which most like to ignore. Ricciardi

Re: Anthony Accetturo and the New Jersey Faction [Re: majicrat] #991983
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Originally Posted by majicrat
J. Paterno was in the Forrest hills section of Newark, and rarely if ever left that area except to go into nyc or Florida. His go to guy was frank “the bear” basto who kept order. There’s a lot more but too much to write here. M. Taccetta was not on paterno’s radar to speak of. His entire family is connected to the lucheses one way or another. Including a government witness which most like to ignore. Ricciardi


Joe Paterno was connected to the mafia. Is that what you're saying?


I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
Re: Anthony Accetturo and the New Jersey Faction [Re: Zavattoni] #991986
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As much as some Italians want to say “ I am Italian and i hate the mob” there are / were tons of families connected in many many different ways some blood some in-laws some there parents grew up in Italy together and those bonds run deep ,so lots of people were connected legitimate and never broke a law ,some asked a favor along the way .... and no it wasn’t like The Godfather when you had to pay everything back .... something’s are what they are .


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Re: Anthony Accetturo and the New Jersey Faction [Re: Zavattoni] #992013
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Paterno didnt grow up in the forest hill section of newark. He moved there later in life.

Re: Anthony Accetturo and the New Jersey Faction [Re: Zavattoni] #992159
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Who said joe paterno grew up there?

Re: Anthony Accetturo and the New Jersey Faction [Re: Zavattoni] #992425
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On America's most wanted, when Casso was on the lam, they said Accetturo was the guy he was most worried about...I still have that old VHS tape of that episode...Too bad they don't have it on line !!

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