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Re: Al D’arco [Re: streetbossliborio] #983974
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Originally Posted by streetbossliborio
1 big mistake that ended his career. Never understood why he didn’t believe it. The Guy was an associate, what was the hesitation to hit him about. For such a shrewd ruthless throw drug dealer brothers off roofs type of guy Why did he not hit the guy?!

In a sit down with the bonnanos they told the chin et al that one of their proposed associates was a rat and they immediately whacked the guy. So it wasn’t like he weren’t open to listening..

Maybe the windows money blinded him. But then again he wasn’t a greedy boss.. who knows eh

From what I understand he was just genuinely fond of the guy, and that was a rarity for him considering he kept everyone at arm's length save for a few of the older Village and Downtown guys. He refused to believe it and he died in prison because of it. Huge mistake, and a fucking head scratcher for anyone remotely interested in this shit lol.


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Thanks Pizza for the insight. Fascinating stuff.

Re: Al D’arco [Re: streetbossliborio] #983989
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After Pappa was killed Chin personally took him under his wing, a strange move for a boss to begin with. He then tested his loyalty few times and and probably decided he was to be trusted. Savino was also a charmer and had an enjoyable personality.

Re: Al D’arco [Re: streetbossliborio] #983991
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Mangano was even telling the Chin.He took Savino in a basement and put a pistol in his mouth.That Savino must have had a silver tongue man but he convinced them in that basement he was strait somehow

Re: Al D’arco [Re: pizzaboy] #983996
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Originally Posted by pizzaboy
Originally Posted by streetbossliborio
1 big mistake that ended his career. Never understood why he didn’t believe it. The Guy was an associate, what was the hesitation to hit him about. For such a shrewd ruthless throw drug dealer brothers off roofs type of guy Why did he not hit the guy?!

In a sit down with the bonnanos they told the chin et al that one of their proposed associates was a rat and they immediately whacked the guy. So it wasn’t like he weren’t open to listening..

Maybe the windows money blinded him. But then again he wasn’t a greedy boss.. who knows eh

From what I understand he just genuinely fond of the guy, and that was a rarity for him considering he kept everyone at arm's length save for a few of the older Village and Downtown guys. He refused to believe it and he died in prison because of it. Huge mistake, and a fucking head scratcher for anyone remotely interested in this shit lol.


It’s a very big head scratcher. I’m not that knowledgeable on the situation but for a boss to be so close with an associate just does not seem very old school. The boss was supposed to isolate himself from everybody outside of his top administration. There is definitely more that I don’t know.

Re: Al D’arco [Re: streetbossliborio] #984002
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Also have you had the wiretap between mangano and saviino where savino says Vincent and managano is like what the hell are you doing don’t say that guys name. Savino was brazen!

Re: Al D’arco [Re: streetbossliborio] #984040
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You know Pizza,we haven't had a lot of conversation over the years but like the others I find your post very informative and I pay attention to your words.It seems in another thread years ago you had said that Gigante was just about at the point to strike Casso and Amuso.And Al D'arco inflated himself a bit.Hopefully,I remember somewhat correctly.I wish history would have been different.Amuso,Casso and the Mafia cops should have been slaughtered in my opinion

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Allen Darco said on TV “do not let casso become a made man because he is too crazy” then vic amuso made him anyways

Re: Al D’arco [Re: MemphisMafia] #984061
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Originally Posted by MemphisMafia
You know Pizza,we haven't had a lot of conversation over the years but like the others I find your post very informative and I pay attention to your words.It seems in another thread years ago you had said that Gigante was just about at the point to strike Casso and Amuso.And Al D'arco inflated himself a bit.Hopefully,I remember somewhat correctly.I wish history would have been different.Amuso,Casso and the Mafia cops should have been slaughtered in my opinion


OMG PIZZA YOUR POSTS ARE AMAZING!!!!!!

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Re: Al D’arco [Re: Extortion] #984070
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Originally Posted by Extortion
Allen Darco said on TV “do not let casso become a made man because he is too crazy” then vic amuso made him anyways


I think Furnari made Casso, not Amuso. They were both moving up the ranks at the same time weren’t they? And Idk how much I believe that statement. Casso clearly became crazy with his power because after a while he was just killing everybody. But at the point he was being made, what was it that signaled him being more crazy than almost anyone else in that life at the time? And he was a big earner especially with his stake in Marat Balagula.

Re: Al D’arco [Re: MemphisMafia] #984072
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Originally Posted by MemphisMafia
You know Pizza,we haven't had a lot of conversation over the years but like the others I find your post very informative and I pay attention to your words.It seems in another thread years ago you had said that Gigante was just about at the point to strike Casso and Amuso.And Al D'arco inflated himself a bit.Hopefully,I remember somewhat correctly.I wish history would have been different.Amuso,Casso and the Mafia cops should have been slaughtered in my opinion


Pizza’s posts have always been great ever since I’ve been here. I never heard about Gigante wanting to take out Casso and Amuso but would not doubt it. Would’ve been tough since they were always on the lam. If I could think of a motive for Gigante it would be because they were facing so much time for killing anybody and everybody so he was afraid they’d talk or one of their paranoid confidants would(See D’Arco). Casso might not have appeared to be that smart but I think he would’ve been ready for war if it came to that. I agree with your last sentence though memphis. Same goes for many others.

Re: Al D’arco [Re: pmac] #984236
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Originally Posted by pmac
Yaeh i cant remeber were i read it either capeci or one of the papers the feds said eppolitos friend was being shaken down by bruno and the cop asked casso to tell gim stop and he did but a year or 2 later bruno was shaking the guy down so epolitto told burt kaplan brunos a rat so casso had no choice. Surposely amusos the guy who wanted the bird in his mouth he also wanted them to kill a bruno friend who was gay and put a dildo in him im not making that up either


They didn't put a dildo in him, but he was shot in the dick. The guy was flounderhead Visconti, Amuso had him killed for doing gay stuff in prison. The Facciolo killing was brutal, you can see from his remains the man died in absolute terror, I believe Lou bagels Daidone did the killing. D'Arco book was good, but " The Brotherhoods" was better.

Re: Al D’arco [Re: streetbossliborio] #984237
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I found Casso's book to be a great read, despite Carlo's amateur writing ability and Casso's deranged take on things. The Amuso/Casso reign wasn't very long but it was full of action and makes a great read. You had the attempted hit on Casso, and his get back, the mafia cops, beef with Jersey crew, killing DeCicco thinking it was Gotti by a bomb made by a guy with barely any info on (Herbert Pate), those two going on the run, guys getting whacked across the country, the list goes on.

Re: Al D’arco [Re: streetbossliborio] #984247
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Facciola murder is discussed at around 33 min mark. His body in a trunk is later shown.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x108cdc
Diadone was in his crew yes? Brutal.

Re: Al D’arco [Re: GerryLang] #984328
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Originally Posted by GerryLang
I found Casso's book to be a great read, despite Carlo's amateur writing ability and Casso's deranged take on things. The Amuso/Casso reign wasn't very long but it was full of action and makes a great read. You had the attempted hit on Casso, and his get back, the mafia cops, beef with Jersey crew, killing DeCicco thinking it was Gotti by a bomb made by a guy with barely any info on (Herbert Pate), those two going on the run, guys getting whacked across the country, the list goes on.


It was a great book. I wish someone would write even more on Casso if that’s possible.

Re: Al D’arco [Re: streetbossliborio] #984350
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casso's daughter is married to a genovese soldier who is actice so will probaly never be hearing from him again. surposely casso regrets his decision to flip and how can he not, look at all cassos killers and bascially all the luchese guys who were charged in the mid 90tys conte, lastorino, bowatt, the guy who boss today desantis and like a dozen others all took big plea deals some 15+ some almost 25 even the guy who shotgunned the 2 innocent garbage guys on long island frank pearl there all free today. casso says he was offerd 26yrs or 24 before he flipped in 93 94 he would have been out atleast 5 yrs ago maybe more....

Re: Al D’arco [Re: streetbossliborio] #984360
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heres a good hypothetical. if casso didnt flip.... who he be the acting boss today? he had the power i think he could have worked out whatever difference he had with amuso well being in jail( side note theres some guy outside my apartment puking everywhere should i help idk pass but im registerd to votte today. fuck it im going full crazy bernie im pushing 40ty so gotta go politco) yaeh amsuo guy is boss today desantis. i also dont think crea sr should have been found guilty of the meldish murder and i think theres gonna be a apeeal even the judge might say it

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Re: Al D’arco [Re: pmac] #984475
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Living the good life!

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I found Casso's book to be a great read, despite Carlo's amateur writing ability and Casso's deranged take on things. The Amuso/Casso reign wasn't very long but it was full of action and makes a great read. You had the attempted hit on Casso, and his get back, the mafia cops, beef with Jersey crew, killing DeCicco thinking it was Gotti by a bomb made by a guy with barely any info on (Herbert Pate), those two going on the run, guys getting whacked across the country, the list goes on.


It was a great book. I wish someone would write even more on Casso if that’s possible.


Yeah, I wish the book had a more esteemed author, no disrespect to Carlo, the guy was going through a horrible disease. Casso's story is so freaking interesting he has enough of a story to write another book. His years on the street were action packed, all that stuff I mentioned, and that's not all of it. He was also one of leaders of the Bypass gang who were making huge scores from sophisticated robberies. All the treacherous shit he did, like having Patty Testa killed.

@Pmac if Casso didn't flip I believe one of his Brooklyn guys would be running the show today. He was close with Frank Lastorino, George Conte, George Zappola, Frank Papagni, and Mike DeSantis. They were all serious gangsters who did a lot of heavy lifting for Casso. They were all standup guys in that life and took a ton of time. I've said it a few times on this forum; they are some lucky dudes all things considered. They were involved in all types of crimes, including numerous murders, which could've easily put them away for life, but they pled out and got to go home. Hell, even Frankie Federico has been out of prison for a few years, and he was a shooter in a brutal double murder of two freaking civilians and went on the run for a decade. Casso himself might've been out today if he didn't flip and screw around with the Government instead of taking a plea deal like the other guys mentioned.

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