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Hamilton police charge four from Montreal in home invasion with ties to murdered Cece Luppino

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...asion-with-ties-to-murdered-cece-luppino

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Some background information I compiled last year:

If the age of the stabbing victim in Nicole O'Reilly's April 20, 2018 article from last year is correct (https://www.thespec.com/news-story/8560499-police-probing-targeted-home-invasion-on-mountain/), the person who was injured could have been the son of Antonio Luppino. Antonio is one of patriarch Giacomo Luppino's six sons.

Antonio has a son, Giacomo, with a DOB of November 17, 1972 -- see Giacomo Luppino's Twitter account; Giacomo started following me soon after I was tweeting about the Project OTremens bust but then stopped at a certain point. This DOB is also in the family tree that private investigator Derrick Snowdy uploaded on Twitter and that was uploaded here a while back by poster Ciment.

Four of Jack Luppino's sons have a son named Giacomo. If the age of the stabbing victim is off by a year or two, the victim could be Rocco Luppino's son Giacomo (a realtor), Natale Luppino's son Giacomo, or Domenico Luppino's son Giacomo.

I was leaning toward the victim being Antonio's son, the realtor, based on the DOB and the house listings for 19 Como Place in Hamilton, as the home invasion happened at a residence on Como Place -- see, for example, https://www.homefinder.ca/listings/7547659-19-como-place-hamilton-ontario-h4040726/whereabouts.

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Montrealers facing attempted murder charges after attack on Luppino relatives

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/luppino-attempted-murder-1.5118200

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The Giacomo Luppino to whose Twitter account I linked in my first post either deleted or de-activated his account just a bit earlier today.

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Hamilton Police Service's release:

Cece Luppino Relatives Targeted in Home Invasion

http://hamiltonpolice.on.ca/news/cece-luppino-relatives-targeted-in-home-invasion/

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Originally Posted by antimafia
Montrealers facing attempted murder charges after attack on Luppino relatives

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/luppino-attempted-murder-1.5118200


The article has been updated. The link is the same.

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Reporter Nicole O'Reilly has updated the article to which I linked in the first post of this thread. The link to the updated article is here:

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...ome-invasion-at-hamilton-mobster-s-home/

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The article reveals that the home invasion that took place last year happened at a home owned by Natale Luppino.

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QUEBECKERS INVOLVED IN THE OUTBREAK OF VIOLENCE AGAINST THE ONTARIO MAFIA

VINCENT LAROUCHE AND DANIEL RENAUD
LA PRESSE
Four Montrealers have been charged with a violent assault on the family of a mafia leader in Hamilton. Their arrest comes in the midst of a bloody fight in the Ontario Mafia, a battle in which Quebec organized crime actors may have interests.

Charles-Olivier Boucher-Savard, 29, Martine Villeneuve, 27, Jonathan Monette, 24, and his father, Marc Monette, 53, appeared at the Hamilton Court House on charges of attempted murder on members unidentified family Luppino-Violi, important mafia clan of the region.

All the accused are residents of Montreal. In the past, Boucher-Savard and Villeneuve have already been described as Hells Angels' relationships in police investigations in Quebec.

AGGRESSION

A year ago, in April 2018, the three men of the group allegedly broke into the home of a Luppino family member in the Hamilton area. According to the local newspaper Hamilton Spectator , the house belongs to Natale Luppino, one of the leaders of the Luppino-Violi clan.

One family member at home was stabbed, while another managed to flee and alert the neighbors. Quebeckers fled and the injured person was treated.

Questioned by La Presse , detective Peter Thorn of the Hamilton police confirmed yesterday that the attack was related to the criminal activities of the mafia family Luppino.

"I think that's one of the things that's going on in the Hamilton area and the greater Toronto area," he said in reference to the Mafia outbreak in Ontario.

Two other municipal police forces in the Queen City area identified the band of Quebecers as an active group in the area that could be linked to acts of violence involving organized crime and which had Hamilton on their trail.

Detective Peter Thorn says that the exact reason for the attack is not yet known. Two searches were conducted in Montreal with the help of the Sûreté du Québec (SQ), in a residence and a car used by Marc Monette.

EVENTS OF RARE VIOLENCE

Murders and attempted murder have been happening at a fast pace in mafia circles in Ontario for some time. The two mafia clans who had kept their upper hand on the Hamilton area since the 60s and 70s, the Musitano and Luppino-Violi, were affected.

"It's more violence than we've seen in decades. It's hard to follow. And the created void is bigger than the one we've seen for decades, "says Stephen Metelsky, a recently retired police officer who investigated the Violi family and now teaches criminology in Hamilton.

Last week, Pat Musitano, suspected of being the leader of the Musitano clan, was wounded by several shots. He survived. His brother Angelo was murdered two years ago.

In January, Cece Luppino, nephew of Natale Luppino, was murdered at the residence of his father, Rocco, another notorious mafia. And in September, a real estate agent believed to be associated with the Mafia was killed at his home near Niagara.

Historically, the Musitano have been close allies of Montreal godfather Vito Rizzuto, whose authority extended throughout Canada until his death in 2013.

The Luppino-Violi, for their part, include brothers Domenico and Giuseppe Violi, bred in Montreal. Their father, Paolo Violi, was one of the leaders of the Montreal Mafia until he was eliminated during the Rizzuto clan's takeover in 1978. The Violi sons were then sent to Ontario, where they had kinship (their mother was a Luppino). Both are now incarcerated for drug trafficking.

SPORT BETS

Police have told La Presse that illegal sports betting, in particular, is the bone of contention that agitates all these groups.

According to some sources, the dispute over the last few months would involve new players, including Hells Angels from Ontario and Quebec.

"We see Ontario Hells Angels meet people in Montreal. Quebec Hells Angels are influential in Ontario. We do not know exactly what is going on, but there is something going on now, "said one of our informants, who requested anonymity because he is not allowed to speak to the media.

"There are a lot of Quebecers right now who are used to contract in Ontario. To go there to commit crimes, they must have the green light and an order. "

- One of our informants

"Before, it was easier to know what was happening within organized crime, but today there are so many alliances that it is much more complicated," continues our source.

"People come from Quebec to do jobs there. There are people from Quebec who are interested in what is happening in Ontario, "added another source.

Sports betting has always been very lucrative for criminal organizations. The evidence accumulated during the Colisée survey in the early 2000s revealed that in just one year, the Montreal Rizzuto clan had made profits of 27 million with the bets.

In 2013, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) dismantled an illegal mob and Hells Angels betting network in Toronto that had an antenna in Montreal.

IMPACTS OUTSIDE ONTARIO

Stephen Metelsky believes it is too early to point out a leader of the current wave of violence. The future will tell who will come out weakened and who will come out stronger.

"With the weakening of the two traditional organized crime families in Hamilton, there is an opening for an outside group that would like to make a breakthrough in this strategic region near Toronto and the United States," says the former investigator.

Pierre De Champlain, a retired RCMP analyst, also believes that these clashes will have repercussions in the other provinces.

"Ontario is currently a battlefield between two or three factions and a winner will eventually emerge. There is a metamorphosis in Canada and we will see new actors appear, "he predicts.

And between Ontario and Quebec, "there are partitions, but it's not hermetic," he adds.

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If the Ontario Hells Angels allies themselves with Montreal, then this could be the down fall of the Ndrangheta in Ontario.

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Originally Posted by Ciment

If the Ontario Hells Angels allies themselves with Montreal, then this could be the down fall of the Ndrangheta in Ontario.


Ontario Hells Angels are not like the ones in Quebec.

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Originally Posted by Ciment

If the Ontario Hells Angels allies themselves with Montreal, then this could be the down fall of the Ndrangheta in Ontario.


these people are sent by the rizzuto's who are in friedship with bikers and haitian gangs, the shooter of cece luppino was probably haitian
and they are not ndrangheta, they are members of buffalo family, lcn

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Originally Posted by m2w
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If the Ontario Hells Angels allies themselves with Montreal, then this could be the down fall of the Ndrangheta in Ontario.


these people are sent by the rizzuto's who are in friedship with bikers and haitian gangs, the shooter of cece luppino was probably haitian
and they are not ndrangheta, they are members of buffalo family, lcn



So you think the home invasion and the hit on Cece was ordered by the rizzutos?

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If the Ontario Hells Angels allies themselves with Montreal, then this could be the down fall of the Ndrangheta in Ontario.


these people are sent by the rizzuto's who are in friedship with bikers and haitian gangs, the shooter of cece luppino was probably haitian
and they are not ndrangheta, they are members of buffalo family, lcn



So you think the home invasion and the hit on Cece was ordered by the rizzutos?


There are more people in Montreal than just the Rizzutos nowadays.


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Originally Posted by JoeTadaro
So you think the home invasion and the hit on Cece was ordered by the rizzutos?


who else? the musitano's are allied with the rizzuto's and the caruana-cuntrera's and are fighting against the violi/luppino's aligned with rizzuto's enemies in montreal (montagna and others)

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Originally Posted by Sonny_Black

There are more people in Montreal than just the Rizzutos nowadays.


yes, but the rizzuto's seems to be still the most powerful and allied with both bikers and haitians
also violi stated that the musitano's are supporting the cuntrera's (then rizzuto's) so they were interested in avenge angelo musitano

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So whose next to get hit hmmmmm

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So you think the home invasion and the hit on Cece was ordered by the rizzutos?


who else? the musitano's are allied with the rizzuto's and the caruana-cuntrera's and are fighting against the violi/luppino's aligned with rizzuto's enemies in montreal (montagna and others)



Definitely would make sense

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It does seem to go back to the murders of Paolo Violi and his brothers..

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Originally Posted by JoeTadaro
So whose next to get hit hmmmmm


If I was Pino Avignone, I would certainly be looking over my shoulder. But perhaps with the heat right now, it will be hard for anyone to strike at him. If Musitano/Montreal alliance strikes, I would guess Al Iavarone's older brother Tony would be logical hit, apparently he has taken over for Luppino/Violi untill Domenico Violi gets out of jail.

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So whose next to get hit hmmmmm


If I was Pino Avignone, I would certainly be looking over my shoulder. But perhaps with the heat right now, it will be hard for anyone to strike at him. If Musitano/Montreal alliance strikes, I would guess Al Iavarone's older brother Tony would be logical hit, apparently he has taken over for Luppino/Violi untill Domenico Violi gets out of jail.


Joey Avignone was in particular close to Tony Musitano, who was respected by all.

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Agreed but if they are trying to eliminate the Musitanos omce and for all then I would think think he would be next in line after Pat.


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Agreed but if they are trying to eliminate the Musitanos omce and for all then I would think think he would be next in line after Pat.


Yeah, i don't know if he was involved in the Papalia murder. I don't think anyone wants a full-out war bad for business.


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What proof is there that the Caruana-Cuntrera clan is "against" the Calabrians in Ontario? Yes the Caruana-Cunteras had strong links with the Rizzutos (same part of Sicily, baptisms etc etc), but they've also had very strong links to Calabrian families for decades.

Truth is, this whole thing is so messed up it's like Game of Thrones.

The Montreal war is shifting to Ontario. There will be more bodies.

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This seems more like a Calabrian affair.


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Originally Posted by spartan
What proof is there that the Caruana-Cuntrera clan is "against" the Calabrians in Ontario? Yes the Caruana-Cunteras had strong links with the Rizzutos (same part of Sicily, baptisms etc etc), but they've also had very strong links to Calabrian families for decades.

Truth is, this whole thing is so messed up it's like Game of Thrones.

The Montreal war is shifting to Ontario. There will be more bodies.


In the September 2017 recorded conversation, Dom Violi says the Musitanos were supporting the Cuntreras, who at times are referred to as the "coffee guys." The Cuntrera-Caruana Mafia family is known in the Woodbridge and Toronto areas. The home of Giuseppe Cuntrera, referred to in the court documents as "Big Joe," was targeted with gunshots and fire in the summer of 2017.

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Agreed but if they are trying to eliminate the Musitanos omce and for all then I would think think he would be next in line after Pat.


Yeah, i don't know if he was involved in the Papalia murder. I don't think anyone wants a full-out war bad for business.


Avignone was busy with gambling machines, loansharking, narcotics, and real estate during that time. He making and collecting money for the Musitanos. It is very likely he knew about the hit coming up on John Papalia, as he was present on more than one occasion when Joe Albano and John Catanzaro visited the Musitano family. With all he was doing for the family, it would have been a bad move to bring him in on the murder. Crime families need earners and that is what Giuseppe Avignone is.


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What proof is there that the Caruana-Cuntrera clan is "against" the Calabrians in Ontario? Yes the Caruana-Cunteras had strong links with the Rizzutos (same part of Sicily, baptisms etc etc), but they've also had very strong links to Calabrian families for decades.

Truth is, this whole thing is so messed up it's like Game of Thrones.

The Montreal war is shifting to Ontario. There will be more bodies.


In the September 2017 recorded conversation, Dom Violi says the Musitanos were supporting the Cuntreras, who at times are referred to as the "coffee guys." The Cuntrera-Caruana Mafia family is known in the Woodbridge and Toronto areas. The home of Giuseppe Cuntrera, referred to in the court documents as "Big Joe," was targeted with gunshots and fire in the summer of 2017.


And several members live in the Montreal area.


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the shooter of cece luppino was probably haitian


I read they believe the shooter is from the US.


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I read this article the other day Article. Timeline wise when did the Musitano/Montreal VS Luppino/Violi fued start? I am assuming after Vito died because this article states that the violi's and some luppino's were at Angelo Musitanto's wedding, which would have been around 2012-2013. Yet Musitano was backed by Montreal before vito died ....and couldn't we assume the Violi's always were against montreal ever since Paolo was killed?

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Originally Posted by Mooney
I read this article the other day Article. Timeline wise when did the Musitano/Montreal VS Luppino/Violi fued start? I am assuming after Vito died because this article states that the violi's and some luppino's were at Angelo Musitanto's wedding, which would have been around 2012-2013. Yet Musitano was backed by Montreal before vito died ....and couldn't we assume the Violi's always were against montreal ever since Paolo was killed?


The Violis were against the Rizzutos and their extended family members in Montreal. Even though it is said that Vito Rizzuto was the absolute boss of Montreal, there was still the Cotroni faction, and dissidents within the the Rizzuto family at least as far back as 2004. Now there are so many players in Montreal it is difficult to say who is with who. On the Angelo Musitano murder, everything screams Papalia family, but both Angelo and Pat pissed of a lot of top people in Toronto, the Commisso, Racco, and Tavernese. Commisso and Racco wanted to let the Musitano brothers sweat it out in prison then hit them later on. With the events taking place after the brothers release, the plan was not possible. On the brothers release, it is said that they also angered the Tavernese family. Vito Rizzuto was their protector, when he died, so did most of their protection. There is a good chance that Toronto farmed the contract out to the Papalia family, and in order to do that Papalia family would have to get the ok from Buffalo. In Hamilton it is also hard to tell where some of the members loyalty lies, as all three groups have members associating with each other from different families. I believe the Violi family had a hand at the start of the Montreal war, in that Nick Rizzuto Sr was killed the same way as Rocco Violi, and the disappearance of Paolo Renda. There is also circumstantial evidence that the Violi family was planning on hitting Alfonso Caruana in Woodbridge, who was the biggest narcotics trafficker in Canada, and a strong key ally to the Rizzutos.


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Re: Luppino-Violi group targeted by Montrealers? [Re: Giacomo_Vacari] #970693
05/04/19 05:32 PM
05/04/19 05:32 PM
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Hey Giacomo,

Can you show me the evidence you are talking about regarding the Violi's getting ready to kill Caruan in Woodbridge? First i heard of that.

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