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Before, Mexico became the center of drug trafficking, colombian cartels were shipping drugs in the US, by the Caribbean.
During those times, was there ever a so call Caribbean cartel?
Which caribbean countries were the strongest in the drug trade?

And now, we can see that, the percentage of drugs going to the US or Europe by the Caribbean is increasing.

Can we call those groups cartel? Drug crews? How can ee call them?
Theirs some gangs in the US that get there cocaine from the DR, Haiti or Jamaica.

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These groups seem to find themselves between a street gang and a drug cartel. They're definitely a form of (major) organized crime and they move tons and tons of dope. A lot of drug money is invested in real estate in the country of origin and some of the gang bosses seem to own a lot of property in their respective countries.

On an international level the strongest and best connected Caribbean groups seem to be in Jamaica, Dominican Republic, Haiti and Puerto Rico. Most of those have operations in North America and in the case of Jamaica in the UK as well (even though their presence has declined a bit over there).

Another Caribbean country whose pull in the drug trade isn't to be underestimated is Curaçao. It's a small country, but due to their connection with the Netherlands there are plenty of Curaçaoan gangs that move a lot of drugs through the Netherlands into Europe. Curaçaoan criminals based in the Netherlands are getting increasingly organized, far beyond the "petty street thing" they used to be known for in the 80's. They definitely got the connections these days, they definitely got the muscle and they're ruthless enough to hold their own.

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Venuezuela is also heavily working with caribbean groups to smuggle cocaine in the US

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Suriname is also considered to be a culturally Caribbean country, their President was also the leader of the feared Suri Cartel.


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In Haiti, there’s a kind of war, for who is going to run the drug trade on the island.
Since last years, there was a lot of arrests of police officiers and politician who were accused of drug trafficking.
During the Duvalier regime, many military officier were accused of drug trafficking.

In the DR, it is well known, that many hotels and tourism were products of the money made by drug trafficking.

Jamaicans and dominicans were know to supply many gangs on the east coast.

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Yeah in many Caribbean countries you see the geopolitics of drug trafficking.


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Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Before, Mexico became the center of drug trafficking, colombian cartels were shipping drugs in the US, by the Caribbean.
During those times, was there ever a so call Caribbean cartel?
Which caribbean countries were the strongest in the drug trade?

And now, we can see that, the percentage of drugs going to the US or Europe by the Caribbean is increasing.

Can we call those groups cartel? Drug crews? How can ee call them?
Theirs some gangs in the US that get there cocaine from the DR, Haiti or Jamaica.


Yes, Back then as now in regards to Caribbean cartels or Transnational DTOs. I have to say that Jamaica, Haiti, Dominic Republic, Puerto Rico & Cuba will always have the highest drug trade activities. At one point in time around 20% of the coke ship to the US went through the Caribbean. Ganja is still a major export from Jamaica to the US as well.


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At one point, jamaican posses and dominican groups were really active, from the north east to the south of the US.

Jamaican posses were getting cocaine from colombians, and distributing it to jamaican posses already established in american cities. The jamaicans tried to take the territory already established by african americans. Jamaicans were straight killers.

Dominicans were also the plugs to many gangs in NYC.

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The closest one who would fit your requirements would be the Chadee Gang in Trinidad until its leader was arrested and executed in the 1990s. Today, Puerto Rico is the big entry point into the states from the Caribbean. After that NLS of Curacao is the biggest group due to their connections and other activities other than drugs, plus they created a solid pipeline to St.Maartin Island for the tourists, and residents. Jamaica has a high percent of weed, but as the times go by, it will go off the list with weed becoming legal in many states and no one will care as most people do now. Haiti and DR has a number of groups with many street gangs in the USA starting up over the decades with these gangs sometime merging with one another for protection and power. Both nations have their own pipelines to the states, as they do get most of there drugs from South America and manufacturing their own drugs or just shipping the material to the United States. Those two countries have had internal disputes off and on over the years, the Haitians for example in Florida and New York recently, while the DR is just regulated to itself at the moment.


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Originally Posted by Blackmobs
At one point, jamaican posses and dominican groups were really active, from the north east to the south of the US.

Jamaican posses were getting cocaine from colombians, and distributing it to jamaican posses already established in american cities. The jamaicans tried to take the territory already established by african americans. Jamaicans were straight killers.

Dominicans were also the plugs to many gangs in NYC.


The Jamaican groups are still active and a few turf conflicts happened between black crime groups but the bulk of the violence was between different posses/crews.


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Yes, most jamaicans conflicts were between jamaicans. But I read that sometime, some conflicts with american groups, like in DC and Queens.

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Theirs also a so called drugs for guns trade between Haiti and Jamaica. Haiti send guns in Jamaica, and Jamaica send ganja to haiti.
I went to Haiti, you can see alot of guns in Haiti. Men walking in the street with Ak’s, Uzi’s and other type of guns.

Also, people are buying cops immatriculations so they can drive in the street of haiti with drugs in there cars, without police arresting them.

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The dutch elite is using the Dutch Antilles and Suriname they want the coke trafficking to Holland and into Europe.


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Originally Posted by Blackmobs

Dominicans were also the plugs to many gangs in NYC.

they still are, up and down the north east really

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Is there still a lot of Cuban-based trafficking? Currently there doesn't seem to be a lot of reporting on once powerful Cuban crime rings (like The Corporation and La Company) and the Marielito henchmen.

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Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
Is there still a lot of Cuban-based trafficking? Currently there doesn't seem to be a lot of reporting on once powerful Cuban crime rings (like The Corporation and La Company) and the Marielito henchmen.


You will be looking at Florida for those drug rings


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Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Yes, most jamaicans conflicts were between jamaicans. But I read that sometime, some conflicts with american groups, like in DC and Queens.


I doubt there was any conflict in D.C. The ones i can recall would be in Philly, NYC, Dallas, Miami, & possibly Boston.


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Even between the social tensions between haitians and dominicans, criminal groups from both countries work together, almost becoming one.

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Before Aristide closed the army, most drug traffickers in Haiti were in the military, in the tonton macoute or politicians.
Now, most traffickers are politicians or in the police or in another force.

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In Toronto, the Showe Posse is a big plug to many jamaican gangs in the city.

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Bahamas, Haiti, Dominican Republic and Jamaica are major illicit drug producing and transit countries, says latest US report

https://www.caribbeannewsnow.com/20...transit-countries-says-latest-us-report/

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The investigation into the case against a former employee of the Federal Drug Control Service, who organized deliveries of cocaine from the Dominican Republic to Russia, has been completed.

Moscow City Court will consider the materials of the case against former Federal Drug Control Service officer Viktor Tolpygin, who, after being charged with a bribe, went underground and became a major cocaine supplier from the Dominican Republic to Russia, reports Rosbalt with reference to a source in law enforcement agencies.

According to the source, Tolpygin worked with the Federal Drug Control Service for a long time, and then started working in the Internal Affairs Directorate of the South-Western Administrative District. In 2010, the police officer learnt about an entrepreneur that was addicted to soft drugs. After acquiring the next consignment, the businessman was detained. A bag with hashish was found on him during the search. Tolpygin offered the entrepreneur to hush up this story in exchange for 15 thousand dollars.

The businessman agreed, called relatives and asked to borrow money. In total, 200 thousand rubles were collected. The police agreed to this amount. The entrepreneur promised to bring the remaining part of the bribe later, but instead turned to the Bureau of Internal Affairs. Tolpygin was rounded up and accused of Bribe-Giving (Art. 290 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), after which he was released on his own recognizance.

The policeman went into hiding and was put on the federal wanted list. Being in an irregular situation, he decided to take up the drug business. According to investigators, in 2015, he met with some former colleagues from the Federal Drug Control Service, in particular, with Igor Smal, and offered them to become members of a drug cartel.

Tolpygin told his former colleagues that he had reliable suppliers of cocaine from the Dominican Republic. The delivery of the drug to Russia was allegedly already established, but the courier became familiar at the border, so it was necessary to find new carriers. The former policeman promised to pay for the trips and accommodation of a courier in the Dominican Republic, as well as to pay him 200 thousand rubles for each flight. Smal suggested that his friend Alexey Vorontsov be a courier. Tolpygin handed 10 thousand dollars to the latter, with which he flew to a foreign resort. In the city of Punta Cana, Vorontsov gave the money to a woman named by Tolpygin. The investigation failed to establish her identity. In return, the courier received a bottle of oil, which he took to Moscow. It turned out that cocaine was dissolved in the oil.

According to the materials of the case, Tolpygin used connections with the Deputy Chief of the Operations and Search Department of Sheremetyevo Customs. Before each flight, the customs officer was shown the courier and asked to ensure his passage without inspection before departure (since he transported a large amount of undeclared currency) and upon arrival, when he carried cocaine.

Vorontsov brought from one to three bottles of oil per flight from the Dominican Republic. After evaporation of the liquid, 550-630 grams of pure cocaine were obtained from each bottle. In April 2015, the Federal Drug Control Service learned about the business of Tolpygin. They detained Vorontsov and Smal with another consignment of the drug dissolved in the oil, but the organizer of deliveries himself managed to escape.

In 2016, Smal was sentenced to 15 years in prison, and Vorontsov - to 15 years and 3 months‘ imprisonment.

In 2017, law enforcement officers managed to detain Tolpygin. The court put him under house arrest, from which he fled again. The next time the ex-policeman was caught only in April 2018, after which the court sent him into custody.

https://en.crimerussia.com/drugmafia/corrupt-ex-drug-police-officer-turns-out-to-be-dominican-baron/

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In January rice entrepreneur Nitender Oemrawsingh was shot dead in Guyana, he was linked to the seizure of 4,850 kilos of cocaine in the port of Paramaribo destined for Europe.


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The police in Suriname have released the identity of the two people who were shot dead in the capital Paramaribo. The two were shot at a 'drive by shooting'.
After the shooting, a burnt-out car without license plates was found. Horrible images that this newspaper received on Sunday night show how a man lies lifeless in the back of a pickup truck. The woman is close to the ground. Both were hit by bullets.

According to the police in Suriname it is a man named Dennis Groenfelt, a 49-year-old Dutchman, and 19-year-old Cadisha Prika. The Surinamese police are investigating the double murder.

The shooting follows the day after heavy criticism from the opposition in Suriname of the government and the discovery of a crashed cocaine plane. Member of Parliament Krishna Mathoera told the Surinamese Star News Friday that "everyone has seen the drug problem grow under the Bouterse government." Coke smuggling through the country has never been so great and the government does not impede trade. In 2010 about 600 kg of cocaine was seized, while more than 2500 kg of cocaine was discovered this year alone.


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Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Venuezuela is also heavily working with caribbean groups to smuggle cocaine in the US

I watched a doc about how the Venezuelan government has their own cartel, fucking insane

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US Customs agents seize drugs on ship destined for Haiti

PHILADELPHIA (CMC) — The United States Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agency says it has collaborated with the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) in seizing a record amount of cocaine from a container ship with merchandise destined for Haiti.

CBP said that the contents of the shipping containers included wine, coated paperboard, vegetable extracts and dried nuts from Chile, carbon black from Colombia, and scrap metal batteries from the United Arab Emirates.

CBP said the examination of the MSC Gayane, a 1,030-foot Liberian-flagged container ship, at the Philadelphia seaport netted the historic load of cocaine, the largest cocaine seizure in the 230-year history of US Customs and CBP, with an estimated weight of over 17.5 tons and a street value of about US$1.1 billion.

https://www.jamaicaobserver.com

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Billion-Dollar Philadelphia Cocaine Bust Largest in US Customs History

A massive $1.1 billion cocaine bust at the Philadelphia seaport earlier this week was the largest such seizure in the 230-history of U.S. Customs and Border Protection, officials said Friday.
Just one quarter of the drugs seized were put on display at a news conference Friday in the United States Customs House in the city's historic district.

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