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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Hollander] #966813
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Originally Posted by Hollander
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so there might be a chance of him being sent by someone ? i find that hard to believe now
but it's officially the strangest mob hit ever
so i won't be surprised by any new info at that point


The police chief said more.

“We are well aware of Mr. Cali’s past,” he added. “That will be part of this investigation as we determine the motive… there are multiple angles we are still exploring…The priority was getting the individual responsible for the murder off the street.”

He added: “Let me reiterate, this is far from over.”

thanks buddy !
so guys ! maybe it's more then a love story or whatever
let's wait for more info

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Well, this is anti-climactic and lame. Not likely they'd recruit Joe Schmoe, who never did any kind of dirt whatsoever, for a job like this. Unless he's never been caught.

Someone had mentioned Jimmy Hydel and other sloppy assassination attempts. But Hydel was involved in the streets to some degree, even if he was considered a "nobody" or "wannabe". This guy however, comes out of nowhere... very well could be a freak occurrence / personal beef.

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I kind of called it, as Mike Ehrmentrout told Walter White”Just because you shot jessie James doesn’t make you Jessie James’
This punk is gonna have a tough time in Attica, or up in Siberia. He has a target on his back the same as a short eye. He is gonna deserve every bit of what he has coming.
This punk was told to stay away from one of Franky Boys relatives who is female. This punk than decided nobody is gonna tell him who he can or can’t see and killed Cali.
The press needs to issue an apology to Gene Gotti who is living out his days holed up in his Long Island home enjoying taking a shit without his celly 5 feet away.

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i don't get it
if they had a personal beef then he hits cali car and shakes hand with him in a minute ?

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Exactly, May be a wacked out type moron. but how did he get that address.? know which car to plow into.. maybe may be somebody gave him a lump sum of money and other offering to do this..Yea there might be more to this. and this man Cali too nice of a guy. should of came down to him with an attitude an maybe the situation would of been different. but yea what a sneak move sucker shot. it kind of looks like someone may of paid him. all that over a girl.?

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Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
i don't get it
if they had a personal beef then he hits cali car and shakes hand with him in a minute ?

Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
i don't get it
if they had a personal beef then he hits cali car and shakes hand with him in a minute ?

Cali was caught off guard but knew who the dude was evidentlylike wtf? “I’m sorry I accidentally backed into your car”Cali was a convicted felon, having a gun in his home even if it’s his wife’s is illegal, it’s called constructive possession. He was a non violent offender it’s bullshit. Once you do your time your civil rights should be restored including the right to protect yourself from wackjob. Who knows what the conversation was, it will come out eventually.
This dude is greenlit he will be in PC until trial and sentencing than maybe put in a special needs yard but he will be gotten to.

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Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
i don't get it
if they had a personal beef then he hits cali car and shakes hand with him in a minute ?


Fake news ! wink


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Sources tell CBS2 the suspect and Cali were involved in a spat over latter’s niece, who sources say is from Brooklyn and would sometimes stay at Comello’s home on Staten Island. The sources say Cali didn’t want his niece, who is attending college, to spend time with Comello, who has worked in construction.


Threw his whole life away over a broad, her puss must be golden, we need pics.

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Originally Posted by BugsyM
Sources tell CBS2 the suspect and Cali were involved in a spat over latter’s niece, who sources say is from Brooklyn and would sometimes stay at Comello’s home on Staten Island. The sources say Cali didn’t want his niece, who is attending college, to spend time with Comello, who has worked in construction.


Threw his whole life away over a broad, her puss must be golden, we need pics.


Jesus, kid— way to prove Cali right about being no good for his niece. It’s clear Comello isn’t working with a full deck.

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Originally Posted by BugsyM
Threw his whole life away over a broad, .


Basically so did Cali.


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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
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They took his Facebook down already, this guy whacked a boss? What's the world coming to? He wouldn't have the balls to whack a Blood or Crip..
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/anthony-comello-1.jpg


What a sad world. This kid looks like the softest frat boy posing after 7 jager bombs at some state school upstate his parents paid for him to flunk out of. How in the world did this cocksucker get away with this? Very, very strange. This pussy really took out the boss of the most powerful crime family in America. LCN is officially dead as of this day.


In all fairness he looks like a strapping young guy. Whereas Cali, like a lot of mob bosses, looks short and dumpy. Who do you think would win in a fistfight? Carlo Gambino was the most powerful boss ever and an asthmatic kid would probably have more endurance than him or his son; the guy would've shit his pants if Carmine Galante was alone in a room with him. Anthony Casso got battered in prison once he started acting up and lost the aura that being high up in the mafia gave him.

Angelo Bruno and Paul Castellano didn't get to the top by virtue of what they did with their fists. Nor Frank Costello before that; look how quickly he noped out of the life after his life was threatened.

I suppose it's not the physical threat posed by these people that makes them a force to be reckoned with. It's the knowledge that they can snap their fingers and have someone do whatever they want to you. With no conscience or remorse.


The irony is if you look at many of the politicians, bankers and other people in high places is that the world is controlled by nerdy looking beta males while the alpha's do the heavy work as soldiers, criminals, construction workers, etc. Many of the most powerful mob bosses weren't particulary physically impressive. Brains beat muscle when it comes to real power.


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Originally Posted by grumpies
Exactly, May be a wacked out type moron. but how did he get that address.? know which car to plow into.. maybe may be somebody gave him a lump sum of money and other offering to do this..Yea there might be more to this. and this man Cali too nice of a guy. should of came down to him with an attitude an maybe the situation would of been different. but yea what a sneak move sucker shot. it kind of looks like someone may of paid him. all that over a girl.?



No offense but you would have to be really dumb to believe that it was anything but a random killing. Let's look at the supposed likely suspects:

1) The Gottis-Who could have done this-the really dumb one who is locked up, the one who is so dumb that even the other Gottis, who are far from MENSA members, called stupid? The drop out/rat? The hair jell brothers? The only one who means anything on the street who is in his 70's who just got out of jail after 30 years who is probably still figuring out how to use a cell phone? Yeah, they would definitely inspire confidence and lead a revolt. Come on, really?

2) Someone from Canada-Why would anyone from Canada ever do dirt in the USA? If the Gambinos are involved in Canada as some believe why not hit someone in Canada to make a point or seek revenge? It makes no sense that anyone from Canada would try to do anything in the US when you can hit someone in Canada and do 10 years or less. One of the guys who hit the Iron Worker is out already, and Mom Bouchard, who had a prison guard killed, actually has release date. In the US that moron who went to court each day with the Scrawny Guy got 10 years for setting a car on fire, the Feds would be on anyone who hit a mob boss in the US in a heart beat. That makes no sense.

3) The Mexicans-So a shipment was lost, they could mobilize a hit team in one day? If the US wants you they will get you, a hit by a cartel in the US is a straight path to supermax in Florence where you are basically sitting in cell the size of card board box for 23 hours a day, El Chapo is proof of what happens when the US wants you.

4) Another US LCN family-They just want to lay low, they know what happens when you sneeze violently let alone act violently, the last thing that the Genovese want is to give LE another reason to look twice at them.

When it comes to famous people or an individual that people look up to, in this case a mafia hero to mafia groupie, people don't want to acknowledge that random things happen. People get hit by lightning, people get hit by cars, people get killed by sharks, etc. That's life, and while it is more likely to happen to someone who has to wash their clothes in an alligator infested river in Africa than it is to mob boss in Staten Island, random things do happen. Someone might lose their mind over a woman, and all bets are off. That is still more likely than one of the Gottis trying to reclaim their honor, that is just laughable. Even someone who has been drinking all day on St. Patrick's Day could figure that out.

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Michael Franzese had a good idea about was going on too. I wonder whether he also thought about the lone nutjob. It's easy to refute all the other theories now that it does indeed appear to be just a loner, even though the other theories are usually more likely than this totally random act by a disgruntled kid. Even retired LE higher-ups and others in the know were thinking it was mob related so no reason to be ashamed of our so called mob groupie initial thoughts. wink


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Originally Posted by Sonny_Black
Brains beat muscle when it comes to real power.


I only wish this were still true.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Originally Posted by Sonny_Black
Michael Franzese had a good idea about was going on too. I wonder whether he also thought about the lone nutjob. It's easy to refute all the other theories now that it does indeed appear to be just a loner, even though the other theories are usually more likely than this totally random act by a disgruntled kid. Even retired LE higher-ups and others in the know were thinking it was mob related so no reason to be ashamed of our so called mob groupie initial thoughts. wink


Franzese locked his twitter. Guess we'll never know the truth.


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Originally Posted by Sonny_Black
Michael Franzese had a good idea about was going on too. I wonder whether he also thought about the lone nutjob. It's easy to refute all the other theories now that it does indeed appear to be just a loner, even though the other theories are usually more likely than this totally random act by a disgruntled kid. Even retired LE higher-ups and others in the know were thinking it was mob related so no reason to be ashamed of our so called mob groupie initial thoughts. wink


A lot of those supposed higher ups were just looking for another reason to justify their own existence and stroke their own egos. Admitting that a supposed untouchable is just as vulnerable as a regular citizen doesn't help them further their own agenda.

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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
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Michael Franzese had a good idea about was going on too. I wonder whether he also thought about the lone nutjob. It's easy to refute all the other theories now that it does indeed appear to be just a loner, even though the other theories are usually more likely than this totally random act by a disgruntled kid. Even retired LE higher-ups and others in the know were thinking it was mob related so no reason to be ashamed of our so called mob groupie initial thoughts. wink


Franzese locked his twitter. Guess we'll never know the truth.


Franzese's theory, whatever it is, would make me look the other way if anything. I wouldn't trust him as far as I can thrown him, he is probably lining up another round of speaking engagements as we speak.

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It seems some people forget that crooks aren't immune to domestic spats. Now & back then at their peak, don't know why it's hard for some to fathom it. The drug shipment would of involved Carribean traffickers more so than Mexicans. I think it should be more patience into these situations than turning a thread out in a few days. Also, Just as the LCN is overromanticized so is the hits they do. Seriously it's not professional ALL the time, just a couple hit & misses with it.


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They are still 1 of the strongest and largest organized crime group in NYC and only group that ever challenged them was Rudaj Organization ,


I'm not sure this is entirely true. With the drug trade, immigrants coming from other parts of the world with their own crime organizations, I think we're in a time of transition not only for this country but for what we call organized crime as well. The two go hand in hand. [/quote]

There, it's more accurate.


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Brains beat muscle when it comes to real power.


I only wish this were still true.


It has always been true, were Hitler and Stalin pulling the trigger? Any idiot can pull a trigger, it only takes balls and not brains. True power is scaring people or manipulating people into doing what you want them to do. Luciano, Costello, Gambino et al. weren't challenging people to fair fights, that's for suckers.

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I see no evidence whatsoever that smart people are running the world anymore.


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I sure as shit didn’t expect this. Wow. What the hell does Cali have to do with his niece? Wouldn’t her father be the target on this? This dude is fertilizer eventually, and even worse now his family is in imminent danger. What a selfish jerk off. Just my 2 cents

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Originally Posted by Longislandguy14
I sure as shit didn’t expect this. Wow. What the hell does Cali have to do with his niece? Wouldn’t her father be the target on this? This dude is fertilizer eventually, and even worse now his family is in imminent danger. What a selfish jerk off. Just my 2 cents


I slept on it and it just doesn't add up. Comello had to know who he was dealing with and where did the gun came from still many questions..

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Michael Franzese had a good idea about was going on too. I wonder whether he also thought about the lone nutjob. It's easy to refute all the other theories now that it does indeed appear to be just a loner, even though the other theories are usually more likely than this totally random act by a disgruntled kid. Even retired LE higher-ups and others in the know were thinking it was mob related so no reason to be ashamed of our so called mob groupie initial thoughts. wink


A lot of those supposed higher ups were just looking for another reason to justify their own existence and stroke their own egos. Admitting that a supposed untouchable is just as vulnerable as a regular citizen doesn't help them further their own agenda.


If it can bleed it can die, sure. The difference is that someone like Cali is in a position to be less vulnerable than a regular citizen if he wants too. But nobody ever expected something like this would happen and I think you would agree that it coming from within his own organization sounded more likely than this.

That being said, earlier in the thread another poster suggested the lone nutjob and I did not dismiss it.


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I sure as shit didn’t expect this. Wow. What the hell does Cali have to do with his niece? Wouldn’t her father be the target on this? This dude is fertilizer eventually, and even worse now his family is in imminent danger. What a selfish jerk off. Just my 2 cents


I slept on it and it just doesn't add up. Comello had to know who he was dealing with and where did the gun came from still many questions..


Any fool can get a gun in America.

I had a hard time believing it too with all these fantastic theories going around in my head, but the story makes sense to me now.

If there's more to it we will find out through more killings.


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I'm surprised Franzese didn't imply that his father was the killer !!

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12 shots. Look how they massacred my boy...

So many speculations on who did it, the Sicilians, Gene Gotti, Mexicans, Canadians, nobody expected this. Kinda hard to believe this. The kid that shot him will sure have a nice time in prison. Sloppy hit too, was to be expected this was gonna be solved quick. Guy left prints on the license plates, and got his face on tape. High class neighborhood, every house there has a camera.

RIP Frankie Boy.

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Threw his whole life away over a broad, .


Basically so did Cali.


1. So, reading between the lines, Comello was in a consensual relationship with Cali's niece.
2. Cali put an end to the relationship.
3. Even though his niece is a grown woman.
4. Even though she's not his daughter, therefore none of his business.
5. It's implied that Comello wasn't good enough for her because he worked in construction.
6. Not good enough to date a heroin dealer's niece.
7. Okay.

Did Cali have some issues or regrets over not having any daughters? How the fuck is it his business who his adult niece dates? If my father told his 21 year old niece who she can and can't date, she would burst out laughing.

I wonder what the parents of Cali's sons girlfriends think about their daughters dating the children of heroin dealing scum?


I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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Originally Posted by Longislandguy14
I sure as shit didn’t expect this. Wow. What the hell does Cali have to do with his niece? Wouldn’t her father be the target on this? This dude is fertilizer eventually, and even worse now his family is in imminent danger. What a selfish jerk off. Just my 2 cents


I slept on it and it just doesn't add up. Comello had to know who he was dealing with and where did the gun came from still many questions..


I can’t imagine why he would hit frank, I’m guessing it’s possible frank is the one who told him personally to stay away from his niece.
The kid thinks since he can’t have the niece he’ll make a grand statement put on a show for her in front of the house. Unless there’s more to this, the kid is an idiot plain and simple.

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