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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966523
03/15/19 09:17 PM
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Ya watch that video and these guys don't exactly remind ya of Colombo...Without snitches they'd never solve anything !!

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966532
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Going back to Cali. Cali. Cali Going back to Cali. Nah, I don't think so.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966533
03/15/19 10:08 PM
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One of the articles i read i forget which one mentioned Gene and John Carneglia ... has anyone seen a pic of him or know thqy hea still involved?.. i mean id imagine he got a job immediately upon release at Hertz Rent a car but what do i know

Is Richard Gotti involved at all?.. i do know he lives in fuckin Milford, PA now which is like 20 min from me so if hes involved its from a far

I also found an article where they interviewed Mikey Scars, Anthony Arillota, and Alite and they said there had to be multiple cars and people to whack cali.., and they think Mannino is gonna head up the investigation into who did this and that hes a stone killer...Does any of this sound plausible?


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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: hoodlum] #966534
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Originally Posted by hoodlum
Originally Posted by mikeyballs211
You think Gene took a page out of his brothers book and whacked the boss?... im leaning towards the Sicilians ... but thats going off of zero information.
take a page out of John's
Originally Posted by Beenaround
Originally Posted by pmac
so 2 official bosses dead in 1 week persico and cali. mike nose is free this week so is his underboss and consig after walking out of court today not guilty. pretty note worthy


Does anyone think Genie was a little pissed..


Yeah Mikey ...but does @ his age Gene have the bother or the balls 2 take a page out of John's book?


Idk my friend what do u think?... to me he did 30 yrs and to come out hes gotta be as bitter as anyone can be.. if he feels at all that his family wasnt looked after or hes been shafted then knowing the ego in that bloodline i think he could... is it possible another Gambino big shot like Sonny Juliano, or Gurino, or any other powerful skipper conspired with Gene to do it? Everything ive read Lorenzo Mannino and Cefalu all stuck together were all 18th ave crew zips but who knows


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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966539
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If it was gene he found it more important to get cali than to go after sammy the bull

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966540
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the cameras show Cali and the shooter shaking hands ... also the shooter handed him the license plate knocked off calis truck.. so Cali didn’t recognize the shooter .. so Couldn’t of been a well known Gambino member or associate. Cali Showed up on fbi rib tape since 1990.. he would know most members.

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966541
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Not his daughter.

This is her Twitter: https://twitter.com/MicheleBellNY

And yes, she is thicc as fuck.[/quote]

Your joking with " thicc" right?[/quote]

Very serious. I would give her the best 10 seconds she ever had.[/quote]

Alright, Mr.Hurricane


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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Sosueme123] #966542
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Originally Posted by Sosueme123
the cameras show Cali and the shooter shaking hands ... also the shooter handed him the license plate knocked off calis truck.. so Cali didn’t recognize the shooter .. so Couldn’t of been a well known Gambino member or associate. Cali Showed up on fbi rib tape since 1990.. he would know most members.


"oh gee Mr Cali, I was dropping that thing you needed and I accidentally hit your car. Here's your plate.. Sorry (shake Hands).. Great possibility Cali did know him.

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966543
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just my 2cents

the method looks more like an italian job. in naples they use a similar tactic to rob people. tap the car so they are forced or instinctively they get out of the car and then you're done. It's a similar strategy imo. They lured him out like this. Balcan execution style is probably different more military style (Strax let me know what you think) and i'm not an expert in mexican killings but the few I've read the mexican don't make such a "theatre" they just shoot everything down. This was a planed murder that's for sure imo, the shooter wanted him death. He started to shoot when there was no danger no argument and no fight, he just waited for the right moment.
Who is behind? Boh!?!?!

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966544
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probably the rizzuto and caruana cuntrera only them could kill a lcn boss in new york
If is not within them of course

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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966546
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I just don't buy that whole ' LCN on decline' idea they are talking about at least not in NYC.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/crim...noredirect=on&utm_term=.66bc4b64eb32

Mouw said one theory police are considering in the Cali killing was a rift in the Gambino family between the Sicilians and the Italian Americans. Cali was born in Sicily, but Gotti’s followers are American, and police are examining whether “that Gotti-American faction is trying to take it over.”

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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966547
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Damn, huge news. Interesting to see all of these theories that you guys have. In my own opinion, I think the theory with Mexican DTO holds up, simply because of the reach that they currently have and the fact that a NY Mob boss means nothing to them(as far as killing goes).

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966548
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I really don't think this has anything to do with Mexican DTO's, but that may be just me.

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: CleanBandit] #966549
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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: TheKillingJoke] #966550
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Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
I really don't think this has anything to do with Mexican DTO's, but that may be just me.

nah its internal to gambino or the rizzuto clan

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: MegaMikejr] #966551
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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966553
03/16/19 09:26 AM
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If Peter Gotti was the official boss and the street administration decided to take his power, either a deal needs to be worked out or retribution is expected don't you think. Nobody tooked amusio or the snakes power, or John gotti. The boss is the boss is the boss! The big chair belongs to the Gotti's


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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966554
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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966555
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Well all this they don’t killa boss in front of his house or family is bull if it’s the best place it’s the best place.

The killer I am sure took off the plate of the car before he setup the bump of the cars .

He says I am sorry was backing up fast ( whetever ) has the plate Frankie relaxes for a second as he is handed the plate that takes his mind off anything for a second and that was it Boom !


It was setup planned in a basement with a few Blantons .


Cackling like a banty Rooster.

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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966556
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This has Canada LCN written all over it

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966558
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Francesco Cali - A Rapid Rise to Gambino Crime Family Boss

https://americanmafiahistory.com/francesco-cali/


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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Ravens410] #966559
03/16/19 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Ravens410
This has Canada LCN written all over it


The killer wrote on his body after he killed him? What are the feds waiting for?


I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: thebigfella] #966560
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Originally Posted by thebigfella
If Peter Gotti was the official boss and the street administration decided to take his power, either a deal needs to be worked out or retribution is expected don't you think. Nobody tooked amusio or the snakes power, or John gotti. The boss is the boss is the boss! The big chair belongs to the Gotti's


How does one tooked something? Who is Amusio? What you wrote is highly improbable and shows little thought on your part. Just like Billy Madison you might want to start school over from the beginning, obviously one time through was not enough.

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Moe_Tilden] #966561
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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted by Ravens410
This has Canada LCN written all over it


The killer wrote on his body after he killed him? What are the feds waiting for?

Was your mother pimped by oc?

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: mackinblack007] #966562
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Originally Posted by mackinblack007
Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted by Ravens410
This has Canada LCN written all over it


The killer wrote on his body after he killed him? What are the feds waiting for?

Was your mother pimped by oc?


How do you think he was conceived?

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: ralphie_cifaretto] #966563
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Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted by mackinblack007
Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted by Ravens410
This has Canada LCN written all over it


The killer wrote on his body after he killed him? What are the feds waiting for?

Was your mother pimped by oc?


How do you think he was conceived?

Two dykes sucking off John's for crystal meth, eating eath other out with fresh louds still in there mouth , and poof, we have a not funny coward troll who 100 percent wouldnt show 1 percent of the disrespectful manners if not hiding behind 15 vpns in some trailer somewhere .

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966564
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It's got to be internal. Someone who had something to gain by Cali being out of the picture. I don't think it would be an up and coming mobster, this reeks of someone who feels slighted and wanted to make a bold move or statement. I think the theory that Gotti/JoJo/Nick are taking the family back from the Sicilians (Cefalu/Cali) may be the most accurate. Peter Gotti was acting boss before he went to prison and then the Sicilian faction just takes over? The wheel has turned, the Gotti boys are on top and the Gambino's are on the bottom.

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966565
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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: JC] #966567
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Originally Posted by JC
Originally Posted by thebigfella
If Peter Gotti was the official boss and the street administration decided to take his power, either a deal needs to be worked out or retribution is expected don't you think. Nobody tooked amusio or the snakes power, or John gotti. The boss is the boss is the boss! The big chair belongs to the Gotti's


How does one tooked something? Who is Amusio? What you wrote is highly improbable and shows little thought on your part. Just like Billy Madison you might want to start school over from the beginning, obviously one time through was not enough.

Another gangster bb snob, I've seen your kind before... your nothing special. Anybody with common sense knows I meant Vic amuso, sorry for adding another vowel, I mean, you are our grammar guy right? And I guess me and all of the FBI agents needs to go back to school as well because we believe the Gotti's are involved. Listen up grammar guy, before you come on here adding comma's and periods to people's posts try to have facts on your side when you disagree with an educated opinion.


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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: merlino] #966569
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Pretty big news they already have a suspect and questioning him.

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