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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Strax] #966243
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Originally Posted by Strax
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/hitma...ense-plate-before-shooting-him-to-death?


The driver is wearing a hoodie and a baseball cap, so his face is not clearly visible as he and Cali speak. Cali reaches into his pants pocket, as if to suggest he had a gun.

The driver then bends down and picks up the license plate. He holds it out to Cali, who takes it and steps over to the rear of the Escalade.

Cali has his back to the driver as he puts the license plate into the trunk of his Escalade. The driver chooses this moment to produce a gun and shoots Cali.


Telling me it was a premeditated hit and pulled off right ? No way the hitter gives him a legitimate plate or is this a Philly hit .


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Originally Posted by Strax
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/hitma...ense-plate-before-shooting-him-to-death?


The driver is wearing a hoodie and a baseball cap, so his face is not clearly visible as he and Cali speak. Cali reaches into his pants pocket, as if to suggest he had a gun.

The driver then bends down and picks up the license plate. He holds it out to Cali, who takes it and steps over to the rear of the Escalade.

Cali has his back to the driver as he puts the license plate into the trunk of his Escalade. The driver chooses this moment to produce a gun and shoots Cali.


That is some wild shit...

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Originally Posted by Serpiente
Originally Posted by Strax
Credits to another poster from another board. This shit is so confusing

https://www.thedailybeast.com/hitma...ense-plate-before-shooting-him-to-death?


The driver is wearing a hoodie and a baseball cap, so his face is not clearly visible as he and Cali speak. Cali reaches into his pants pocket, as if to suggest he had a gun.

The driver then bends down and picks up the license plate. He holds it out to Cali, who takes it and steps over to the rear of the Escalade.

Cali has his back to the driver as he puts the license plate into the trunk of his Escalade. The driver chooses this moment to produce a gun and shoots Cali.


Telling me it was a premeditated hit and pulled off right ? No way the hitter gives him a legitimate plate or is this a Philly hit .


The hitter gave Cali Cali's plate that was dislodged off his vehicle when the getaway car hit it.

Unless I'm misunderstanding something.


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why does he took cali's license plate ? what is it some sort of a message ? what's going on here ?!

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966248
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It fell off Cali's stationary car when the hitter's car smashed into it.

The hitter picked it up and gave it to Cali, who was in the process of putting it in his boot, when the hitter took the opportunity to shoot him.

That's what I get out of it.


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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Moe_Tilden] #966249
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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
It fell off Cali's stationary car when the hitter's car smashed into it.

The hitter picked it up and gave it to Cali, who was in the process of putting it in his boot, when the hitter took the opportunity to shoot him.

That's what I get out of it.



Me too I don’t get what’s so hard to understand lol

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Moe_Tilden] #966250
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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
It fell off Cali's stationary car when the hitter's car smashed into it.

The hitter picked it up and gave it to Cali, who was in the process of putting it in his boot, when the hitter took the opportunity to shoot him.

That's what I get out of it.

so if that so then it probably was all set up

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So Cali walked out of his house w/ a gun (we think) on him- that doesn’t seem normal if he really just thought someone tapped his truck..... He must have felt something was possible...I say this has to do w/ that shit ton of coke that has Pmac daydreaming...... I would be shocked if this ends up being Gene making a play.....although the guy probably is still stuck in the 80’s- maybe he thought bosses still get hit...lmao


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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: sittite] #966252
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Originally Posted by sittite
So Cali walked out of his house w/ a gun (we think) on him- that doesn’t seem normal if he really just thought someone tapped his truck..... He must have felt something was possible...I say this has to do w/ that shit ton of coke that has Pmac daydreaming...... I would be shocked if this ends up being Gene making a play.....although the guy probably is still stuck in the 80’s- maybe he thought bosses still get hit...lmao


😂😂😂😂 or he could have been bluffing and making it seem like he had a gun just Incase it was a set up(which it obviously was)

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it's seems like we might see some arrests very soon like maybe even next week or so

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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Moe_Tilden] #966254
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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted by Serpiente
Originally Posted by Strax
Credits to another poster from another board. This shit is so confusing

https://www.thedailybeast.com/hitma...ense-plate-before-shooting-him-to-death?


The driver is wearing a hoodie and a baseball cap, so his face is not clearly visible as he and Cali speak. Cali reaches into his pants pocket, as if to suggest he had a gun.

The driver then bends down and picks up the license plate. He holds it out to Cali, who takes it and steps over to the rear of the Escalade.

Cali has his back to the driver as he puts the license plate into the trunk of his Escalade. The driver chooses this moment to produce a gun and shoots Cali.


Telling me it was a premeditated hit and pulled off right ? No way the hitter gives him a legitimate plate or is this a Philly hit .


The hitter gave Cali Cali's plate that was dislodged off his vehicle when the getaway car hit it.

Unless I'm misunderstanding something.


Talk about making him feel comfortable!! To be that relaxed and to let it unfold ! Got to hand it to the guy if it was premeditated hit ...well have to say he got it done.


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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966257
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I'm surprised nobody has commented on the similarity to Vito whacking that guy whose car he rear-ends in The Sopranos. As soon as the guys back is turned after talk of swapping insurance details he's killed.



Cali would obviously be very cautious so whoever has thought this hit out has had to think outside the box a little. Crash into his car by the way of an accident, get him into a vulnerable spot, act genuine/remorseful and then take him out. It could be anybody, we obviously don't know hardly anything about what goes on in LCN and beyond but it really could be anybody. To take out a boss though - and a boss who is so well connected like Cali is - takes balls for a start but it also indicates that Cali has pissed the wrong person or people off so bad that A, they've got permission for the hit or B, they don't give a fuck about that and have just taken him out anyway.


It'll be very interesting to see how this plays out. What are the odds of retaliation here? The media is going a bit crazy over the possibility of a war but between who? It's all up in the air right now.

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Why would you crash into your victims Truck..What happens if your Pick-up doesn't start due to the hit or flat tire..? Is there a back car close by..?..Extremely crazy Hit. I'm sure there was plenty of other places to whack Cali. Maybe someone sending message to His Wife's Family (Sicilian Mob Ties Inzerillo crime family ) since they did it in front of his Home.

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www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-metro-gambino-cali-gene-gotti-nypd-staten-island-20190314-story.html%3foutputType=amp

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Originally Posted by Beenaround
Why would you crash into your victims Truck..What happens if your Pick-up doesn't start due to the hit or flat tire..? Is there a back car close by..?..Extremely crazy Hit. I'm sure there was plenty of other places to whack Cali. Maybe someone sending message to His Wife's Family (Sicilian Mob Ties Inzerillo crime family ) since they did it in front of his Home.



Thought same .... guy must of just wedged it or something little just to get him out the door.... still this is weird.


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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966263
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Would’ve tapped the car. Very clever strategy.

However if Cali knew he had heat on him and he sees a hoody and hat guy outside I must say it does seem naive. I suppose no one expects it until they get it. Wouldn’t surprise me if the hitter is back in Palermo now chilling 50gs up. Some heavy shit. Reminds me a little of when rusty got hit (frankie valli) in sopranos..

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Originally Posted by Beenaround
Why would you crash into your victims Truck..What happens if your Pick-up doesn't start due to the hit or flat tire..? Is there a back car close by..?..Extremely crazy Hit. I'm sure there was plenty of other places to whack Cali. Maybe someone sending message to His Wife's Family (Sicilian Mob Ties Inzerillo crime family ) since they did it in front of his Home.


They hit him with back of truck, not with a front , cant do much damage at all


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The Sicilian Cupola met several times on the turf of the Inzerillos.

On March 6th 2017, March 10th, May 22nd and May 25th 2018. And, perhaps, on May 29th, the Cupola bosses all went to Passo di Rigano for the commission meeting: their mobile phones were turned off in the upper area of ​​Viale Michelangelo. Where did the meeting take place? Certainly, there was an authoritative mafioso from Passo di Rigano that day, Giovanni Sirchia, as the interceptions say.


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You guys are so funny an either don't read or do any research.

1st, mansion? That's no mansion. It's a regular old is house. Watch the video.

Second, by all accounts he was well liked and was asked and turned down the top spot in what 2012/2013 by all accounts.

3rd, the last Officlal Boss was Quiet Dom Cefalu and they were tight

4th, Peter Gotti is nothing to nobody and not even boss in name sake - that's a press thing to keep the Gotti name alive.

5th, if this large coke shipment bust was indeed related to him he'd be having the killing done not the other way around. You think he's driving, arranging or protecting that shit. He's 15 people removed from anything.

6th, this is internal to the Gambino's. they knew where he lived, the best time to get him there and probably felt he would be most relaxed existing his house on short notice. Maybe the whole ruse was to get his back turned so he couldn't run, defend himself or otherwise survive as it sounds like once his back was turned he was shot and then shot multiple times while on the ground. 12 casings, not taking any chances of surviving.

Someone felt it was there time and that was that.


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I understand where you are coming from , especially from back in the day but there seems to have been a bunch of associates killed the last few years and more recently ( the Det said this too) . Plus after reading the Ronnie G. bust, Porky bust and Crea beef it’s pretty clear to me people are getting popped & assaulted regularly in that life . In NY at least

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Originally Posted by azguy
You guys are so funny an either don't read or do any research.

1st, mansion? That's no mansion. It's a regular old is house. Watch the video.

Second, by all accounts he was well liked and was asked and turned down the top spot in what 2012/2013 by all accounts.

3rd, the last Officlal Boss was Quiet Dom Cefalu and they were tight

4th, Peter Gotti is nothing to nobody and not even boss in name sake - that's a press thing to keep the Gotti name alive.

5th, if this large coke shipment bust was indeed related to him he'd be having the killing done not the other way around. You think he's driving, arranging or protecting that shit. He's 15 people removed from anything.

6th, this is internal to the Gambino's. they knew where he lived, the best time to get him there and probably felt he would be most relaxed existing his house on short notice. Maybe the whole ruse was to get his back turned so he could run, defend himself or otherwise survive as it sounds like once his back was turned he was shot and then shot multiple times while on the ground. 12 casings, not taking any chances of surviving.

Someone felt it was there time and that was that.



If its internal to Gambinos ,they are fucked.Feds will be all over them , this is headline news all over the world , insane heat


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The plate? Is it possible the two of them were in the mid of some type of Car Exchange? or maybe Cali was buying the plate? Could that be just how the Hitter was using to get close to 'em?

Either, R.I.P. Cali


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IDK, say 4 guys made the hit call and they got one shooter and that shooter is already dead, in Canada or in Italy, sounds like a tough nut to crack if the truck, license plate lead nowhere, stolen, etc.

I know nothing, but it has to be some Gambino's guys that wanted the top spot and felt he didn't deserve it. There's no way it came from outside the family, impossible.


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Originally Posted by azguy
IDK, say 4 guys made the hit call and they got one shooter and that shooter is already dead, in Canada or in Italy, sounds like a tough nut to crack if the truck, license plate lead nowhere, stolen, etc.

I know nothing, but it has to be some Gambino's guys that wanted the top spot and felt he didn't deserve it. There's no way it came from outside the family, impossible.



And whacking Cali would assure they get top spot ? For top spot they need to whack a whole bunch of guys that are on top,all of them are Sicilian faction and really close to Cali


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Originally Posted by azguy
You guys are so funny an either don't read or do any research.

1st, mansion? That's no mansion. It's a regular old is house. Watch the video.

Second, by all accounts he was well liked and was asked and turned down the top spot in what 2012/2013 by all accounts.

3rd, the last Officlal Boss was Quiet Dom Cefalu and they were tight

4th, Peter Gotti is nothing to nobody and not even boss in name sake - that's a press thing to keep the Gotti name alive.

5th, if this large coke shipment bust was indeed related to him he'd be having the killing done not the other way around. You think he's driving, arranging or protecting that shit. He's 15 people removed from anything.

6th, this is internal to the Gambino's. they knew where he lived, the best time to get him there and probably felt he would be most relaxed existing his house on short notice. Maybe the whole ruse was to get his back turned so he couldn't run, defend himself or otherwise survive as it sounds like once his back was turned he was shot and then shot multiple times while on the ground. 12 casings, not taking any chances of surviving.

Someone felt it was there time and that was that.



I thought Peter Gotti was just boss in ceremony only, a lightning rod if you will. I can't say that I remember his name being mentioned all that frequently in recent news dispatches about the Gambino family.

Re: Cefalu. I remember the press announcing he was anointed as the boss but was that ever official? I feel they jumped the gun on that one.


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Cali was also the great-nephew of Bonanno mobsters Vito and Giovanni Bonventre.


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to put the whole 2000 kilo of cocoaine on the docks theory to bed and the feds deffinitly know this. the gambinos control the docks in brooklyn the new jersey dock is all genovese till this day and probaly going back 80yrs. the genovese own the new jersey docks they wouldnt let the gambinos move anything on there turf it would be a bad look. thats all cartel shit an bosses over seas.

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Originally Posted by pmac
to put the whole 2000 kilo of cocoaine on the docks theory to bed and the feds deffinitly know this. the gambinos control the docks in brooklyn the new jersey dock is all genovese till this day and probaly going back 80yrs. the genovese own the new jersey docks they wouldnt let the gambinos move anything on there turf it would be a bad look. thats all cartel shit an bosses over seas.


That’s a good theory. Didn’t think of that. Good shit

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pete gottis whole case was about the dock in brooklyn and payoffs, atleast half of it . with sonny ciccone

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MY 2-CENTS:

Do not see this being random the shooter shot 12 times and ran up close to him

Do not see another family doing this, there would be an all out war, when was the last time a boss was taken out by another family? And the BINO's are right there with the West-Side and because they are run by the ZIPS, more likely to start a war than any other family, the ZIPS play by different rules.

Do not see the old Guard doing this they have been so under the radar and have been un touched by L.E.
Gene Gotti, NAH, he would get caught and locked back up in a MINUTE. The FEDS would LOVE to have that FEATHER, my guess he is being watched like a HAWK.

My guess is a ZIP thing from the other side

When they voted the ZIPS, into the top spot they opened themselves up to something like this, INTERVENTION from the other side.

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