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Re: Murder at home owned by Rocco Luppino (Hamilton) [Re: antimafia] #963060
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the whole mafia war in montreal could be between two bonanno factions (rizzuto/sollecito vs montagna/arcuri )there is not any proof rizzuto's are independent, at least not any official one
there are not informants among canadian mafia members, all we know come from american ones

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With the 'ndrangheta you are talking about blood families Musitano, Luppino, Papalia these families live in Canada, Italy, Australia, Germany, while the American mafia Bonanno, Buffalo are another structure.


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In a way they are similar to gypsies.


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Re: Murder at home owned by Rocco Luppino (Hamilton) [Re: antimafia] #963084
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Think about how much drug money must be at stake for this war to have gone on for what? 7 or 8 years with dozens killed. It must be a honey hole up there


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GUERRA DI MAFIA IN CANADA, UN’ALTRA VITTIMA “CALABRESE”

https://www.telemia.it/2019/02/guerra-di-mafia-in-canada-unaltra-vittima-calabrese/


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Re: Murder at home owned by Rocco Luppino (Hamilton) [Re: antimafia] #963133
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Link to obituary for Cece Luppino:

http://www.lifenews.ca/announcement/9156455-luppino-cece

The obituary is published in the Hamilton Spectator, but a paywall will likely prevent you from finding the obituary in the online edition of the paper.

Re: Murder at home owned by Rocco Luppino (Hamilton) [Re: antimafia] #963134
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I was wrong, as the newspaper obituary will be found at the link below.

https://www.thespec.com/announcemen...ries-death-notices/9156455-luppino-cece/

Re: Murder at home owned by Rocco Luppino (Hamilton) [Re: NickleCity] #963135
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Originally Posted by NickleCity
@Ciment...Thanks for the article. I hadn't read that before... Here is the Google translation of the section you referenced for those like me who can't read Italian:

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The Montreal war currently does not make many victims but remains creeping. And it can explode at anytime. The Violi's had tried to bring the Bonanno family back to Canada but their strategy came to the surface thanks to an undercover agent, who tried to affiliate, so the attempt failed and they were decimated by arrests.


https://www.corrieredellacalabria.i...e-della-ndrangheta-sui-porti-del-canada/

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The Montreal "war" and the aims of the Ndrangheta on the Canada's ports.

According to Antonio Nicaso, author of the bestseller from which the Bad Blood series is based, to get the hands on the hub of the city of Quebec, would be "a huge leap" for the Locride clans transplanted to Toronto.
Meanwhile, there was the first murder of 2019, the victim is a businessman tied for years to the Rizzutos.

LAMEZIA TERME. Notre Dame de Grace is a residential district of Montreal, and it is there that a few hours ago took place the first murder of the year in the city of Quebec.An excellent murder that makes noise because, the victim Tony Magi, was a businessman held for years close to the boss Vito Rizzuto. Found seriously injured by gunshots, Thursday morning shortly after 11 (local time) in front to a building under construction and then died in the hospital.Magi was "a walking dead" so much so that he was repeatedly victim of attacks. But the armored cars and bodyguards in the end did not save him from a fate that seemed to him already written. , for a long time he was a partner of Nick Rizzuto jr (son of Vito) with whom he bought the land on which he built residential complexes. But at a certain point the two began to fight and, even if it has never been proofed, it is always suspected that Magi may have played a role in the murder of the boss's son.

THE WAR OF MONTREAL. A war, that of the city of Quebec, which "stems from a conflict entirely internal to the Rizzutos" and in which the role of some Calabrian-Canadians should be included "in the rebellion against the power of the dominant family". It is also the case of the Violi of Hamilton who, after another Calabrian Vic Cotroni, in the past have commanded the decina of Montreal of the Bonanno family of New York affiliated with Cosa Nostra but who were defeated by the criminal federation with the Irishs and the bikers put together and led by Vito Rizzuto.
When the boss is extradited, however, everything collapses and the internal rebels try to take advantage with the arrival in Montreal of Sal Montagna (at the time acting boss of the Bonannos). The attempt, however, fails, because the alliance between Mountain and the former Vito Rizzuto's right-hand man, Raynald Desjardins soon ends up in the blood, Rizzuto returns to his Montreal and takes revenge but when he dies in 2013 he leaves behind a gaping criminal void.Difficult - still explain Nicaso - identify a suitable figure to hold together all the criminal organizations. The Montreal war does not seem to do many victims at the moment but remains creeping. And it can explode at any moment. The Violis had tried to bring the Bonanno family back to Canada but their strategy came to the surface thanks to an undercover agent, who even tried to "made", and so the attempt failed and they were decimated by arrests.

NDRANGHETA AND THE PORT. and the clans of the Ndrangheta, the powerful families of Toronto with roots in Locride, in Siderno, in Marina di Gioiosa are watching?
The ndrine - answers Nicaso- for a long time have been "forced" to manage the port of Halifax, because in Montreal they would have to pay a fee to the Irish and the Rizzuto.The port of Montreal is the main junction for the entry of cocaine in North America as an alternative to the southern route. The Ndrangheta has always been interested in managing that port. The Calabrians have never had a good relationship with the Rizzuto and have always remained outside.And now they could take advantage of the confusion in Montreal?
Of course it would be a huge leap, but right now it seems that everything is still in the hands of the rizzuto, which are not as strong as before but there are still. The clans of Ndrangheta in Toronto are increasingly linked to the Albanians who are now their armed arm, and have never had a large presence in montreal.Ultimly they say they managed to open a "locale" in the city of Quebec, but for now they are just rumors.

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Re: Murder at home owned by Rocco Luppino (Hamilton) [Re: antimafia] #963149
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New Humphries Article: Gunman in Hamilton murder likely waited in city park for mobster's son to return home

https://nationalpost.com/news/gunma...ity-park-for-mobsters-son-to-return-home

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Hamilton police reveal more about the suspect in Luppino shooting death

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/luppino-suspect-1.5004166

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Man with family mob ties was being watched before his death in Hamilton, investigators say

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...s-was-being-watched-before-his-death-in/

Re: Murder at home owned by Rocco Luppino (Hamilton) [Re: antimafia] #963178
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CRAZY CONFUSING!!!!I
HAVE TO WONDER IF THIS WILL EVENTUALLY START CLAIMING O.C. MEMEBRS IN THE U.S.

WE ARE NOW RIGHT ON THE BOARDER

Re: Murder at home owned by Rocco Luppino (Hamilton) [Re: m2w] #963188
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Originally Posted by BensonHURST
CRAZY CONFUSING!!!!I
HAVE TO WONDER IF THIS WILL EVENTUALLY START CLAIMING O.C. MEMEBRS IN THE U.S.

WE ARE NOW RIGHT ON THE BOARDER


Probably not unless they become very involved on the Canadian side of the border like Montagna did. If they stay in the US I highly doubt they go after them. Dealing with American LE is a whole different ball game, and it's definitely not worth the hassle.

This hit most likely had a vengeance factor to it. You don't hit someone's family member like this unless you want to take revenge, in which the most likely scenario is revenge for Angelo Musitano.
Originally Posted by m2w
the whole mafia war in montreal could be between two bonanno factions (rizzuto/sollecito vs montagna/arcuri )there is not any proof rizzuto's are independent, at least not any official one
there are not informants among canadian mafia members, all we know come from american ones


The Rizzutos stopped sending money to NY after George was hit, that in itself was a message that they were no longer answering to them. Vitale went up there offering Vito the captain position, Vito respectfully declined and that was the end of it. When Vito went to jail and Montagna got deported, he tried to bring them back to the fold, which again is another proof that they did not really care to answer to the Bonnanos.

Nowadays, I doubt the likes of Leonardo Rizzuto or Stefano Sollecito care much about NY. After all they were not made into the Bonnanos, and they have enough on their plate than to worry about NY.

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Stephen Metelsky, a criminology professor at Mohawk College, on twitter:

"There is a lingering stigma against the Luppino-Violi family after they let the police agent into their inner circle..Violi brothers being sent to prison also leaves a void."

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Re: Murder at home owned by Rocco Luppino (Hamilton) [Re: BronaZora] #963206
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Originally Posted by BronaZora
Originally Posted by BensonHURST
CRAZY CONFUSING!!!!I
HAVE TO WONDER IF THIS WILL EVENTUALLY START CLAIMING O.C. MEMEBRS IN THE U.S.

WE ARE NOW RIGHT ON THE BOARDER


Probably not unless they become very involved on the Canadian side of the border like Montagna did. If they stay in the US I highly doubt they go after them. Dealing with American LE is a whole different ball game, and it's definitely not worth the hassle.

This hit most likely had a vengeance factor to it. You don't hit someone's family member like this unless you want to take revenge, in which the most likely scenario is revenge for Angelo Musitano.
Originally Posted by m2w
the whole mafia war in montreal could be between two bonanno factions (rizzuto/sollecito vs montagna/arcuri )there is not any proof rizzuto's are independent, at least not any official one
there are not informants among canadian mafia members, all we know come from american ones


The Rizzutos stopped sending money to NY after George was hit, that in itself was a message that they were no longer answering to them. Vitale went up there offering Vito the captain position, Vito respectfully declined and that was the end of it. When Vito went to jail and Montagna got deported, he tried to bring them back to the fold, which again is another proof that they did not really care to answer to the Bonnanos.

Nowadays, I doubt the likes of Leonardo Rizzuto or Stefano Sollecito care much about NY. After all they were not made into the Bonnanos, and they have enough on their plate than to worry about NY.


I agree with almost all of what you are saying however,

The revenge plot could also be by the Rizzutto family if they played a part in the death of Nick Jr, maybe the Violio-s/Luppino's were/are on that "BLACK-LIST"

Also, the RIZZUTO'S Rebuking Massino was a major slap in the face and this was at the height of his power when more or.less he was atop of what was left of the quazi-commision.

It was a BIG slap in the face and not only did he send Viatale prior I believe he sent Frank Lino and few others.

Essentially a crew of the Bonnano's told the Bonnano's to go fuck themselves.....

And the Bonnano's did NOTHING...
NOT A GOOD LOOK...

Along comes MONTAGNA I do not think he was trying to bring them back into the fold he was trying to wipe them off the streets.

Now what makes a little sense.is the Violi's were positioning themselves to take on the Rizzuto's head on so like what was done up in Toronto and.Onterio and like what Rizzuto, first did to consolidate power the VIOLI'S were positioning themselves.

They resurrected the Todaro, family which they were member of knowing they can use that connection to reach out to the 5 families with legitimacy, TODARO, very respected to this day very easily reached out to the Bonnano's and the other families to work with them on joint rackets.

So when the Rizzuto's/Mustianos were taking on the Violi's/Luppino/Todaro/Bonnano+ ?? Other 4 families.

This is pure speculation.

Hence why they wanted one Violi to be on the books with Bonnano's to bring them back into the war after MONTAGNA was eliminated.

They never expected Desjardins to take out MONTAGNA and/or Vito Rizzuto to get off the canvas.


They should not have taken out Nick Jr once they did Vito had no reason to make peace.

He lost everything and had cancer and was dying...

???????

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Curious as to why Police just don't release a snapshot of the suspect from the video footage seized and from which they were able to release a description.

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Originally Posted by CabriniGreen
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I'm genuinely confused why you think Italian journalist are clueless in thinking the ndrangheta want the Port of Montreal.... I'm serious here, i want to understand your thinking.....


( When you say, " the days of coke going south..." When did that ever actually happen? NY has always been Colombian/ Dominican controlled on the streets right?
So it was kinda always coming from the Carribean routes, before the Mexicans opened up the land routes....
I dont really get that point.....)


(I mean understand, they got to where they are moving cocaine worldwide, not shaking down construction industries in various nations.

Also, from what I've seen, the type of crime groups that dominate something like contruction, arnt the type of organizations to colonize various territories, they tend to stay in the same place, the Casalesi, the Piromallis, where ever the construction area is, that's where the families strength usually is located. Those type of contacts dont translate to different territories. The concrete club in NY wouldnt have clout when it came to building a Montreal skyscraper, right?

The Piromallis made TONS off the contruction of that port. But Their power lies in the contraband coming through the ports that MUST pass through their hands.....)


What I think they want, is to make sure as much cocaine passes through thier hands as possible........



I mean, it seems like they want access to ALL the ports. Its ALL about maintaining their leverage in the narcotics world....

(Side question; Why do you think control of Montreal equates to moving coke to NY?

I think they want it to control MORE of the Canadian market, AND as another staging point for European exports... As far as NY, they would need to set up a base there, or a relationship with an organization set up there already. This would be the Five families most likely. Then they would just ship coke to NY, not to Montreal, and then to NY. Look at New Bridge, the Calabrians were importing coke to NY, for EXPORT to Europe. Like the Ursinos wanted to launder thier money in NY, I dont think they were concerned with SELLING there...... )


Case in point: The incident between the Wolfpack and the Commisos... If the Wolfpack controls the Vancouver ports, and a majority of street distro, AND they have access to product DIRECT through Sinaloa , WHY WOULD THEY NEED THE MAFIA? Ndrangheta have access to the Halifax port, but it seems not as strong a relationship with the bikers and street gangs. And the presence of the Mexicans undermines whatever South American connection they bring to bear. So without a monopoly on the contacts, the street distro, or the importation through the ports, you tell me, How do they maintain thier strength?)

Controlling the Montreal port would give them more leverage, no?


Also, it's why I felt ( I mentioned this in a thread on blackhand...) it's important to watch the Mexican cartels, and the relationships they make with crime groups in Canada, because it affects the balance of power. But everyone wants to downplay the importance of narcotics up there.....




I said this, and like clockwork, you posted the excerpt from Chapos trial, talking about how much he makes in Montreal with Tony Suzuki...


Then I read about Sinaloa making deals in BC with the Iranians, who are in business with the Bikers, , HOW DOES THIS NOT UNDERMINE THE ITALIANS?


What could be the purpose of corrupting port officials if not to move contraband through?

Does ndrangheta have the CONTACTS to invest in Montreal construction? Serious question here..... Are they already powers in Montreal construction, I thought the Montreal group monopolized this activity......


For example, I said the Violis were building a narcotics business with NY. My speculation.

You countered that they dont send coke DOWN from Canada. My point is, WHY WOULD YOU THINK THEY WOULD DO THAT ANYWAY?

The way I saw it, NY would use the Violis contacts, not dissimilar to how the Ursinos used the Gambinos South American contacts. I saw NY using the Violis Colombian CONTACTS, not smuggling routes, CONTACTS. They could build another South America to NY route, it's the CONTACTS, the ability to get the things for 5 grand a ki that matter.

Again, Zummo sold a kilo for 38 grand. What do you think he PAID for it? You think he bought it in NY? If so, how much? 25? Less? 15? Would he enjoy buying from Mexicans, Dominicans, or fellow paisans? Well, getting it for 5 in bulk, beats all those prices to my eyes. And gives much more leverage.....


Again, it's not an attack, I'm just trying to come to an understanding here....






@CabriniGreen

My long replies to some of your questions are below. I will try to answer the remaining questions later. You always ask good questions -- and I do want to answer them -- but bear in mind that the answers often require evidence or proof that takes me a while to collect and assemble. In some places where I have answered I had to be careful -- or will be careful -- about what I wrote because I don't want to offend certain posters and organized-crime authors/experts, as some of the latter have eventually become friends.

1. During all the years I've been following the mob war in Montreal, I've only come across a few Italian-language articles that were genuine investigative pieces: a few articles about the murders of Joe Bravo and Fernando Pimentel in Sicily, the unconfirmed report that Stefano Sollecito visited Joe Bravo in Sicily (I've since learned that that he and other Montreal Mafia members did in fact travel there to try to talk some sense into Bravo, not necessarily all at the same time), and a couple of articles about the apparently close ties between Carmine Verduci and Rocco Sollecito, who had ties to 'ndrangheta clans of the Locride (the area in the province of Reggio Calabria) (the newspaper promised to look into this connection further, but every time I've checked, there hasn't been any followup).

The rest of the Italian-language articles are timely on occasion -- for example, a significant event has happened here -- but often seem to be written when actually nothing has happened here, as though the newspapers' assignment editors tell the reporters, for no reason at all, to write about the big mafia war in Canada between the 'ndrangheta and Sicilian Cosa Nostra. From an article I saved close to nine years ago, "Canada: scoppia la faida tra cosa nostra e la ‘ndrangheta" (you and others could, if needed, copy and paste what's below in to Google Translate):

Con lo strategico controllo di Montréal i Rizzuto sono diventati tra i protagonisti nel traffico internazionale di eroina proveniente dalla Sicilia e diretta verso gli Stati Uniti. Anche se capaci di diversificare le proprie attività illecite, interessandosi alla cocaina, l’eroina è la stata la base del potere della Sesta famiglia in Canada. I cambiamenti del “mercato” della droga e la centralità assunta dalla cocaina hanno indebolito i Rizzuto, così come tutte le altre famiglie di cosa nostra sia negli Stati Uniti che in Sicilia. Favorendo, al contrario, la ‘ndrangheta calabrese, che nel giro di poco tempo è riuscita ad imporsi come broker internazionale della polvere bianca.

Link: http://www.liberainformazione.org/2...a-faida-tra-cosa-nostra-e-la-ndrangheta/

If anyone wants to see how such articles have proliferated on the Net, just google by first typing "guerra" "canada" "ndrangheta" "cosa nostra" and then adding either "porto" "Montreal" OR adding "cocaina." For kicks, try using or adding the search terms "guerra mondiale" (world war).

You know what else has proliferated (as a result of these articles in Italian)? The spread of misinformation. Moreno Gallo is misidentified as a member of the Siderno Group. Vic Cotroni is called the head of the 'ndrangheta in Canada, and -- of course -- the "war" is all about control of the Port of Montreal.

2. For decades, the 'ndrangheta on the Italian mainland has invested in, among other things, real estate in the Greater Toronto Area, as have of course the Siderno Group members who live in the GTA. (Calabrians the world over are smart; I've met very few Calabrians who aren't interested in at least owning their own house, and the ones that are homeowners often want another house or property from which to derive rental income.) Along with the 'ndrangheta's interest in real-estate investments in the GTA is an interest in putting up buildings, i.e., construction. A hotel here, a condominium building there. Helps launder money in addition to, of course, earning a lot of revenue.

The GTA Siderno Group has a decades-long history of corruption of Ontario's construction industry. Ontario has had its own inquiries like Quebec's Charbonneau Commission, and there are a number of people who think another inquiry is long overdue in Ontario, especially because of suspected links between 'ndranghetisti and Ontario politicians. We also have to recall that Italy issued an arrest warrant for Vito Rizzuto in 2005 on accusations he, along with the 'ndrangheta on the Italian mainland, tried to get their hands on part of the contract to build the Strait of Messina Bridge from Sicily to the mainland. Rizzuto's main contact in Italy was the Calabrian-Canadian engineer Giuseppe Zappia, but I will go out on a limb here and speculate that Carmelo Bruzzese, Francesco Arcadi, and the Montreal Mafia's contacts in the Siderno Group in Calabria also did a lot of the legwork.

In my humble opinion, a Siderno Group attempt to get a stranglehold on the Port of Montreal -- if this criminal group even wants to do so -- will result in needless violence because the West End Gang is already firmly rooted there and has control over what illicit items get in and out, as well as over certain personnel (stevedores and checkers). The West Eng Gang, the Hells Angels, and Montreal Mafia have used the port for decades for drug importation; so an attack on the West Eng Gang could mean the Hells and the current Montreal Mafia leader(s) would lend support to any "war" that ensues by an assault from the 'ndrangheta. Corruption at the port authority is entrenched, but if the 'ndrangheta wants to corrupt officials so as to move contraband, threatening to hurt and kill them are probably very bad ideas. In my view, the 'ndrangheta would instead corrupt officials so as to get involved in the construction projects associated with port expansion.

In the 2010 Operazione Il Crimine arrest warrants, volume 3, there is an important paragraph about Carmelo Bruzzese's tight connections to both Vito Rizzuto and Francesco Arcadi. The paragraph is possibly vague, but it states that, in particular, Bruzzese is committed to bringing to fruition a project involving a complex structure that will become a hospital, using public funds, in a plot of land that he and his other partners already own. The next sentence talks about Bruzzese's partnership with Arcadi. So the natural question to ask is, Was the hospital project in Italy, Toronto, or Montreal? I might have read elsewhere that the proposed site of the hospital was in the US. I reproduce below the relevant paragraph from the arrest warrants, including the sentences before and after what I have just referenced, as well as the paragraph before.

 in Canada, in particolare, nelle città di Toronto e Montreal è operativa una complessa organizzazione criminale di tipo mafioso, composta da più cellule che racchiudono gruppi - famiglie di origine calabrese ed altri di origine siciliana. Il leader di tale organizzazione era, all’epoca, RIZZUTO Vito che, in virtù dei suoi legami con la famiglia mafiosa dei BONANNO e quella dei “CUNTRERA - CARUANA” aveva creato, nell’area di Montreal una struttura mafiosa ben radicata, collegata con quella di Toronto e con l’Italia;

 tale struttura, operativa nel traffico internazionale di stupefacenti, nel reinvestimento dei narcoproventi, nonché nell’acquisizione di appalti di opere pubbliche ed altri delitti connessi, aveva, come detto, stabili rapporti con appartenenti ad organizzazioni criminali autoctone, tra cui, per l’appunto BRUZZESE Carmelo che viene definito nella richiamata ordinanza di custodia cautelare come “il referente della “cellula calabrese” dell’organizzazione, strettamente legato ai vertici dell’organizzazione, in contatto con i più diretti collaboratori di Vito RIZZUTO e con lo stesso capo prima del suo arresto, avvenuto nel gennaio 2004, nonché con esponenti di spicco della criminalità organizzata calabrese. In particolare é impegnato alla realizzazione di un complessa struttura da destinare ad ospedale, utilizzando fondi pubblici in un appezzamento di terreno già di proprietà del BRUZZESE e di altri suoi soci…”. Nel corso delle indagini oltre a documentarsi rapporti funzionali all’esistenza del sodalizio con ARCADI Francesco, indicato dalla polizia canadese come il successore di Vito RIZZUTO (dopo il suo arresto – estradizione a New York), rilevano per l’odierno procedimento i rapporti tra BRUZZESE Carmelo e VERDUCI Carmine che, in ragione delle conversazioni censurate in quel contesto, viene definito in atti “un personaggio già emerso nelle indagini vicino al noto Carmelo BRUZZESE” e che aveva il compito di viaggiare sistematicamente tra l’Italia ed il Canada, fungendo da vettore di notizie tra il gruppo italiano e quello canadese, così come, peraltro, emerso nell’odierno procedimento. Si evidenziava, inoltre, la conferma circa i rapporti pregressi (2004) tra lo stesso BRUZZESE ed ANDRIANÒ Emilio.


3. I do not think that control of either Montreal or the Port of Montreal equates to moving cocaine to New York City. I am trying to get others to see that this takeover theory has taken on a life of its own -- and I know how it has grown legs.

From the October 12, 2017 article found at the Maclean's magazine website:

Vito Rizzuto had a lynchpin role in the importation of narcotics into North America. Getting close to him meant the opportunity to quickly become a millionaire.

The Port of Montreal is one of a few vital entry points for drugs bound for the United States, and Rizzuto had more control over it than anyone else. Once the drugs reached Montreal, his people had to worry about little more than speed limits as they drove the narcotics through back roads and into New York City, the world’s top market for cocaine. A 2006 Canadian Senate report concluded that 15 per cent of stevedores and 36 per cent of checkers who work in the port of Montreal have criminal records, as do 54 per cent of the employees of an outside firm with the contract to pick up garbage and to service ships on the docks.


Cocaine does arrive at the Port of Montreal but cocaine is not then put on to vehicles and driven to New York City -- this hasn't happened for a very long time, and I'm trying to remember how often cars were even used to get the coke across the US border. We know that in the 1980s, the Caruana-Cuntrera were moving a lot of heroin to the US via Windsor; in addition, the clan was moving a limited amount of cocaine to the US by breaching border points.

For many years now, the coke that is imported via the Port of Montreal is apportioned in Quebec and/or the provinces west and east of Quebec, and the end users are coke addicts in Canada. None of the cocaine goes south to the US. From my research, in the last 10 to 15 years there were only two attempts made by criminals to get coke from Canada into the US, and it ended very badly both times.

In the September 28, 2012 article found at https://torontosun.com/2012/09/28/w...wcm/a80d907c-ca9d-49e3-a1e9-b187876bdd21, you will read that the author of the above-mentioned article is quoted in this older article and may have changed his views over the years. Excerpt from the older article:

Since the 1980s, organized crime in Montreal was largely controlled by the Montreal-based Rizzuto crime family, members of which hail from Sicily. However, a Mafia source told JE that before the Ontario-based Calabrians attacked the Rizzutos, they began using Port of Windsor as an entry port for drugs.

Windsor’s port wasn’t a top security priority because it didn’t service shipping containers, unlike Montreal’s port. Security at the Port of Windsor remained minimal, at least compared to ship container ports.

Using multiple ports is a tactic used by the Calabrian Mafia, called the ‘Ndrangheta, according to Mafia expert and author, Antonio Nicaso.

"The strategy is to never use the same port," he said, in order to draw less police attention.

The ‘Ndrangheta use several European ports in cities such as Rotterdam, and Naples.

"And I think that in Canada, (Calabrian mobsters) are using the same strategy," Nicaso said. "Instead of passing through the same port, they are looking to find different routes and Windsor offers a perfect alternative to smuggle drugs into the country."

And the Calabrians seemed to have had an easy time taking over from the Rizzutos, according to Richard Dupuis, former head of the Montreal police’s major crime squad.


From the marketing copy found at https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/b...edwards-and-antonio-nicaso/9780345813770 (to be fair, the book's co-authors aren't responsible for writing the marketing copy):

Until Vito Rizzuto went to prison in 2006 for his role in a decades-old Brooklyn triple murder, he ruled the Port of Montreal, the northern gateway to the major American drug markets.

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This quote from that McCleans article is spot on, this whole thing is like a real life Game of Thrones:

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Rizzuto preferred to speak with his intense brown eyes, expressive face and loaded body language. His very few words, such as what he uttered to Auger, were as accurate as a bullet from one of his hitmen. Preferring to see himself as a gentleman and a man of destiny, he didn’t need to raise his voice or lose his temper to make life-altering—or life-ending—decisions. His demeanour was that of someone born into royalty, playing out a role that had been determined long before his conception. It was as though he were from the House of Rizzuto, not the Rizzuto crime family.


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The Rizzutos stopped sending money to NY after George was hit, that in itself was a message that they were no longer answering to them. Vitale went up there offering Vito the captain position, Vito respectfully declined and that was the end of it. When Vito went to jail and Montagna got deported, he tried to bring them back to the fold, which again is another proof that they did not really care to answer to the Bonnanos.

Nowadays, I doubt the likes of Leonardo Rizzuto or Stefano Sollecito care much about NY. After all they were not made into the Bonnanos, and they have enough on their plate than to worry about NY.


vito said he wanted his father nicolò as captain, and the bonanno's made him
although there were problems between new york and montreal crew, i doubt they stopped to be recognized as cosa nostra, it would be against mafia protocols, it would make the montreal crew a sort of 'stiddari'

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I find it interesting that he allegedly turned down being made because it is not enough money and too many headaches...and he doesn’t want to struggle like his father yet he lives in his mansion and they own one next door...$ can’t be that bad!

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In a recent VICE story regarding the murder of Tony Magi in Montreal in late January, John Westlake, a veteran of both the Montreal police force and the RCMP, said that the shift from Montreal to Hamilton is a done deal, stating “[the Montreal murder] doesn’t point to a shift, the shift’s already there—the Hamilton people are back.”


I thought that Magi was hit because he fell out with the Rizzutos and allegedly was invoved in the hit with Nick Jr? So he was killed by the Rizzuto faction?

The Vice article implies he was killed by the Ndragheta. Here’s the quote:

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Like Nicaso, Westlake suspects that this murder is another indicator of the balance of power shifting from Montreal’s Sicilian Mafia to the Hamilton-based Ndrangheta.

“It doesn’t point to a shift, the shift’s already there—the Hamilton people are back,” he explained. “Maybe they want to finish off the Rizzuto people and obviously Tony was a Rizzuto guy.”

Magi’s status as a “Rizzuto guy” is indeed irrefutable.Not only had he been in business with Nick Rizzuto, but he could also be heard speaking directly to Vito Rizzuto, who once governed Montreal’s “consortium” of Italian, Irish, Colombian, and biker gangs, in wiretaps. “The Rizzutos are finished,” Westlake concludes.

Magi had been developing Montreal real estate up until his death, though the criminal shadows of his past may have finally crept up on him. As Antonio Nicaso put it, rather poetically, “In the life of mobsters, blood flows from generation to generation and that does not change, like the world and the sky. Blood calls to blood and blood washes blood.”


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Also, I thought the Ndrangheta’s power base is Toronto and not Hamilton? Could be the author of this article is just wrong.


What a crock of shit by this former RCMP agent. He uses conversations between Vito and Magi from 2003 as an argument that he was still a Rizzuto guy in 2019? Magi was forced to work with Rizzuto and it has been widely believed that he was the one who orchistrated the murder of Nick, Jr.

The Rizzuto group is a former shadow of what they were once, but they are not finished. I can hardly believe this guy has been properly quoted.


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I find it interesting that he allegedly turned down being made because it is not enough money and too many headaches...and he doesn’t want to struggle like his father yet he lives in his mansion and they own one next door...$ can’t be that bad!


I was thinking the same thing and not to mention he worked in two of his fathers businesses.

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With the 'ndrangheta you are talking about blood families Musitano, Luppino, Papalia these families live in Canada, Italy, Australia, Germany, while the American mafia Bonanno, Buffalo are another structure.


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The Rizzutos stopped sending money to NY after George was hit, that in itself was a message that they were no longer answering to them. Vitale went up there offering Vito the captain position, Vito respectfully declined and that was the end of it. When Vito went to jail and Montagna got deported, he tried to bring them back to the fold, which again is another proof that they did not really care to answer to the Bonnanos.

Nowadays, I doubt the likes of Leonardo Rizzuto or Stefano Sollecito care much about NY. After all they were not made into the Bonnanos, and they have enough on their plate than to worry about NY.


vito said he wanted his father nicolò as captain, and the bonanno's made him
although there were problems between new york and montreal crew, i doubt they stopped to be recognized as cosa nostra, it would be against mafia protocols, it would make the montreal crew a sort of 'stiddari'


I never heard that Nicolo was offered or even took the CAPO position that was offered to Vito,

Vito told Sal Vitale, we are like our own little family, he wouldn't tell him how many guys they had, he said we are all equal no one is the boss, there was I think 6 of them.


What would you call them? They made guys with out approval of the boss, they would not tell the boss how many made guys were in their crew, and they told the boss they are their own family?

With all the Bonannos rats no one has said they were still sending money???
The last I read Sal Vitale said they stopped.

Then when Massino Flipped Vinny Gorgeous sent word that he was the new boss and Rizzutto sent word back that he was not acknowledging Vinny because a RAT MASSINO APPOINTED HIM.

And than you have the Montagna situation

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I find it interesting that he allegedly turned down being made because it is not enough money and too many headaches...and he doesn’t want to struggle like his father yet he lives in his mansion and they own one next door...$ can’t be that bad!


I was thinking the same thing and not to mention he worked in two of his fathers businesses.


I don’t think he was saying he’d be broke as a made guy, but how much money is that stress worth? $1 million? $10 million?

Guys in the life spend every day of their lives looking over their shoulder. You can’t have any true friends because most often it’s your friends who’ll be sent to pull the trigger. Or they’ll be wired up.

Not to mention every day living in fear that you’ll get arrested and could get a 20+ year sentence. How much money is that worth to you? You ain’t gettin them years back. You kids only learn to walk once, only say their first words once, only have so many years of Little League, etc.

When he says “struggle”, I didnt read that as “struggle to make a buck”. To me it reads like “struggle to live within the confines of the mafia cult”.

And yes, obviously he lives in a mansion. What’s his motivation to risk his lifestyle? He can live very good as the legit son, without all of the downsides.

But he still got killed either way. If he was 100% legit then it’s an even sadder story. I think anyone who is a son up in Canada and is 100% legit needs to get the hell out of dodge right now. Move to the freakin Yukon or Kansas or somewhere were you send a bold message to everyone on the streets “I’m not involved and never will be.”


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I find it interesting that he allegedly turned down being made because it is not enough money and too many headaches...and he doesn’t want to struggle like his father yet he lives in his mansion and they own one next door...$ can’t be that bad!


I was thinking the same thing and not to mention he worked in two of his fathers businesses.


I don’t think he was saying he’d be broke as a made guy, but how much money is that stress worth? $1 million? $10 million?

Guys in the life spend every day of their lives looking over their shoulder. You can’t have any true friends because most often it’s your friends who’ll be sent to pull the trigger. Or they’ll be wired up.

Not to mention every day living in fear that you’ll get arrested and could get a 20+ year sentence. How much money is that worth to you? You ain’t gettin them years back. You kids only learn to walk once, only say their first words once, only have so many years of Little League, etc.

When he says “struggle”, I didnt read that as “struggle to make a buck”. To me it reads like “struggle to live within the confines of the mafia cult”.

And yes, obviously he lives in a mansion. What’s his motivation to risk his lifestyle? He can live very good as the legit son, without all of the downsides.

But he still got killed either way. If he was 100% legit then it’s an even sadder story. I think anyone who is a son up in Canada and is 100% legit needs to get the hell out of dodge right now. Move to the freakin Yukon or Kansas or somewhere were you send a bold message to everyone on the streets “I’m not involved and never will be.”



I still say that this is Musitano saying you killed my brother who said he was out, I'll kill your brothers too.

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I still say that this is Musitano saying you killed my brother who said he was out, I'll kill your brothers too.


It's hard to argue against this theory at this point. Cece lived next door to his father. The killer could have hit Rocco instead who is supposed to be the capo of the Hamilton Buffalo crew, but he chose Rocco's son for a reason. The same seems to be the case with the Ivarone hit.


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People in Hamilton are getting gun happy.

Man shot outside Roxborough Avenue home; report of second shooting on Barton Street East

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...f-second-shooting-on-barton-street-east/

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People in Hamilton are getting gun happy.

Man shot outside Roxborough Avenue home; report of second shooting on Barton Street East

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...f-second-shooting-on-barton-street-east/


Highly unlikely for this to be connected. The east side of Hamilton around Barton street has always been shady.

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