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Murder at home owned by Rocco Luppino (Hamilton) #962788
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Hamilton police investigating homicide at east Mountain home

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...tigating-homicide-at-east-mountain-home/

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This is big news. There doesn't seem to be an end to this war. Assuming that foul play took place.


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Not much information on this unlike the Al Iavarone hit a while back. Makes me wonder if there is a reason for the change in approach. You are right doesn't seem to be an end to this war and rumors. Like a source said in an article a while back: "It is going to get worse before it gets better."

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Homicide unit investigating 'suspicious death' at Mountain home of Rocco Luppino

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/suspicious-death-mountain-1.4999773

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The name of the victim has not been released because not all members of the extended family have been notfied -- see https://twitter.com/HamiltonPolice/status/1091007206273806336.

Seems that the victim is not Giacomo Luppino's son Rocco -- see Hamilton Police Service release to which I've linked below.

Hamilton Male Suffers Fatal Wound

http://hamiltonpolice.on.ca/news/hamilton-male-suffers-fatal-wound/

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Nicole O'Reilly's article has been updated -- go to

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...an-killed-in-targeted-mountain-shooting/

You may hit a paywall.

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If the owners of the house are Paolo Violi's in-laws then the victim aged 44 would be too young to be one of the owners. He may possibly be a sibling ?

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Originally Posted by Ciment


If the owners of the house are Paolo Violi's in-laws then the victim aged 44 would be too young to be one of the owners. He may possibly be a sibling ?


This could be a domestic incident. The age of the victim closely matches that of Rocco and Helen Luppino's son Vincenzo.

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I was going to say, aren't the Violi's inlaws with the Luppino's? So this must be another hit from the Musitano faction, most likely?

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Originally Posted by antimafia
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If the owners of the house are Paolo Violi's in-laws then the victim aged 44 would be too young to be one of the owners. He may possibly be a sibling ?


This could be a domestic incident. The age of the victim closely matches that of Rocco and Helen Luppino's son Vincenzo.


It's possible that the victim lived in the residence but of course did not own it, as records show it is owned by Rocco Luppino and his wife.

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Originally Posted by antimafia
Homicide unit investigating 'suspicious death' at Mountain home of Rocco Luppino

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/suspicious-death-mountain-1.4999773


This article by Adam Carter of the CBC has been updated.

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Confirmed that the victim is Cece Luppino, Rocco's son.

Updated Hamilton Spec article:

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/...untainbrowhome&utm_campaign_id=crime

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Reporter Nicole O'Reilly has received confirmation from multiple sources that the victim is Cece Luppino, the son of Rocco. I think -- but I am not sure -- that Cece is a nickname that is a shortening of Vincenzo, probably the pronunciation of the middle syllable with the exception of the letter "n."

A news conference was held about 10 minutes ago by Det. Sgt. Peter Thom, who was also assigned to the Angelo Musitano and Albert Iavarone murder cases. Below are my notes.

- Thom would not name the victim.
- There is no suspect info at the moment.
- There is no vehicle info at the moment.
- There is CCTV footage from the residence and from neighbouring homes. The Hamilton Police Service is downloading the file of CCTV footage, which is quite large. The HPS has not yet reviewed video evidence.
- The victim lived at the address.
- The victim was alone at home at the time of the incident.
- A family member called 911 after finding the victim. The HPS does not know whether the victim was still alive upon being found.
- The victim was last seen at the residence at 3:30 pm EST.
- The attack was a specific, targeted event because of the nuances of the incident: victim was killed close up; where it happened.
- Thom can't reveal how many gunshots nor where on the body the victim was shot.
- Victim worked for family businesses in Stoney Creek, namely, a realty office and a café.
- The victim had no criminal record and was not known to police.
- A victim background check is being conducted to determine a possible motive.
- The victim was recently married. The family, while asking that its privacy be respected, is co-operating with police.

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The beginning of the news conference is being replayed on one of the TV media outlets here. Thom did name Cece Luppino right at the very beginning -- I missed the first minute or so of the news conference. My apologies.

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Re: Murder at home owned by Rocco Luppino (Hamilton) [Re: antimafia] #962880
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Just speculating here but Fat Pat Musitano brother is killed. Then two guys in Iavarone and Cece Luppino are killed who aren’t made but have brothers who are. Hmmmm, Fat Pats revenge?? You kill my brother, I’ll kill yours

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This one hits close to home, I grew up in the east part of the mountain and my parents still live there and quite close to this place.

Originally Posted by streetbossliborio


I doubt that would be a reason to get hit, the guy's first cousin is supposed to be the underboss of Buffalo, I doubt his own family wacks him just because he turns down an invitation to be made.

I know police said he does not have a record, but my take on this is this guy may not be made, but definitely involved given his surname and who his father and cousins are. Based on the circumstances, this hit has Musitanos written all over it, and it's very interesting that this comes about a week or so after Tony Magi get's hit in Montreal. I'd be shocked if Buffalo went along with this, to me it seems like the Rizzuto's are making it clear that they're still powerful, and their reps in Hamilton (Musitanos) are probably going along with this. Not to mention there's the vengeance factor for Angelo.

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Originally Posted by Ciment
This is big news. There doesn't seem to be an end to this war. Assuming that foul play took place.



`Ndrangheta in Canada shows its true face.


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You think ndrangheta is involved here?

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Originally Posted by CabriniGreen
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You think ndrangheta is involved here?


His grandfather was one of the most respected bosses in the organization and with the arrival in Ontario of new players from Calabria it´s likely. It´s just a matter of time before we know because it´s crazy over there, unlike how they used to operate in the past.


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I also find this quote interesting.

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Canada consisted of various crime families that had immigrated (or fled from) the Sicilian Cosa Nostra and Calabrian Ndrangheta. Indeed, the territory is so rife with families, both Siciliian and Calabrian, that it would seem there were more Mafioso in Canada than in Italy. The two groups always had a rivalry, while the distinction was less important to the American Mafia, which used this rivalry to manipulate the territory.


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I never believed the story that Musitano "found Jesus" before he died, I think that was the family putting a good slant on his death. It definitely sounds like the Musitano's got revenge here but then again it's Canada and the Wild Wild North.

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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...e-investigate-homicide-at-mobsters-home/

Hamilton police investigate homicide at mobster’s home

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Originally Posted by Hollander
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@Hollander

You think ndrangheta is involved here?


His grandfather was one of the most respected bosses in the organization and with the arrival in Ontario of new players from Calabria it´s likely. It´s just a matter of time before we know because it´s crazy over there, unlike how they used to operate in the past.


While not impossible, it's highly unlikely. The most obvious answer here is the Musitanos. The hit to Ivarone was probably an early message of things to come, and this hit is literally within the inner Luppino family. This is likely the hit for Angelo.

I think this also tells us that Buffalo does not control southern Ontario and only the Violi/Luppino family is under their banner.

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I found this quote interesting from Humphrey's article ..

"Paramedics and police found a man “obviously deceased” inside, Thom said."


Indication to me that the victim knew his killer(s) and trusted them enough to let the killer in or at the very least, open the door.

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Originally Posted by BronaZora
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@Hollander

You think ndrangheta is involved here?


His grandfather was one of the most respected bosses in the organization and with the arrival in Ontario of new players from Calabria it´s likely. It´s just a matter of time before we know because it´s crazy over there, unlike how they used to operate in the past.


While not impossible, it's highly unlikely. The most obvious answer here is the Musitanos. The hit to Ivarone was probably an early message of things to come, and this hit is literally within the inner Luppino family. This is likely the hit for Angelo.

I think this also tells us that Buffalo does not control southern Ontario and only the Violi/Luppino family is under their banner.


Its possible funny enough the Musitanos and Luppinos were close when Paolo Violi was killed.


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Originally Posted by Ciment
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...e-investigate-homicide-at-mobsters-home/

Hamilton police investigate homicide at mobster’s home


Here are a few conjectures about this article. First, it appears the Viol/Luppino faction of the Todaro crime family has significant LCN support not just in Buffalo but with the families in NYC.

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Domenico Violi, a 52-year-old hardwood floor and pasta salesman, had recently been made underboss of the Todaro family, according to the court documents. In this new role, he was to “assume control over the operations of the Luppino-Violi crime family and solidify his power base with further and greater collaboration with the New York-based Mafia families.”


If Violi was responsible for generating greater collaboration with the New York-based mafia families, I can't help but wonder if a real partnership was developing in regards to LCN increasing its power/influence in Canada. I've seen conjecture that, as a result of the Luppino hit, we will see the other 4 families in NYC come on board to help. Why did this person say 4 families? I have no idea. The only guess I have, and this is only a guess, is because the Todaro's were working so closely with the Bonanno's already.

Second, Molly Hayes doesn't indicate that Cece Luppino turned down his button.

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...back in February, 2015, that Cece Luppino had been approached about becoming a “made” member.

“Cece told his dad[u] if he could make money then he would be involved, if no money than he doesn’t want to be involved;[/u] that there are too many headaches,” the wire transcript excerpt from their conversation reads. “[Giuseppe] Violi stated that Cece told his father he watched his father struggle for 30 years, and that Cece does not want to struggle for 30 years; and if he does have to then he doesn’t want it.


Hayes cites the same information as Humphries that he struggled with the decision, but does't indicate he turned it down like Humphries did. Makes me wonder if Humphries knows some stuff we don't.

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Originally Posted by Hollander
I also find this quote interesting.

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Canada consisted of various crime families that had immigrated (or fled from) the Sicilian Cosa Nostra and Calabrian Ndrangheta. Indeed, the territory is so rife with families, both Siciliian and Calabrian, that it would seem there were more Mafioso in Canada than in Italy. The two groups always had a rivalry, while the distinction was less important to the American Mafia, which used this rivalry to manipulate the territory.


And how would Ed Scarpo, from whose April 28, 2014 blog post you quoted (https://www.cosanostranews.com/2014/04/giacomo-luppino-last-of-canadas-old.html), know any of this?

Is he even aware that some 'ndrangheta locali in Italy would likely have more inducted members than all the made men in Canada?

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@Nickle city

You make a good point, it is not definite that he turned his button.

In my opinion, the fact that he was killed proves that he accepted.

Find below an Italian article written by Antonio Nicaso. He does mention in this article that the Violi's wanted to bring back the Bonanno family back in Canada.

https://www.corrieredellacalabria.i...e-della-ndrangheta-sui-porti-del-canada/

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