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Re: Sonny Franzese Exclusive Interview [Re: NickSardinia] #960171
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Pretty sad that you have two sons...One puts ya away and the other one only visits one time a year despite his father's ailing health...Disgusting !!

I was with my father every day till his last breath !!

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Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
Pretty sad that you have two sons...One puts ya away and the other one only visits one time a year despite his father's ailing health...Disgusting !!

I was with my father every day till his last breath !!



Same here !


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Re: Sonny Franzese Exclusive Interview [Re: Serpiente] #960183
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Originally Posted by Serpiente
Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
Pretty sad that you have two sons...One puts ya away and the other one only visits one time a year despite his father's ailing health...Disgusting !!

I was with my father every day till his last breath !!



Same here !

You reap what you sow. Sonny got his kids involved in the mob. Maybe if he tried a regular lawful living things might of been different

Re: Sonny Franzese Exclusive Interview [Re: NickSardinia] #960187
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Close JC he tried to keep them out but he was framed and in the joint .....but still you don’t bring your children into OC


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Re: Sonny Franzese Exclusive Interview [Re: NickSardinia] #960189
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In later years, Franzese discussed techniques for mob murders with Gaetano "Guy" Fatato, a new Colombo associate. What Franzese did not realize was that Fatato was a government informant and was taping the conversation. Franzese told Fatato:

I killed a lot of guys - you're not talking about four, five, six, ten.


Sounds like he was framed alright. Not that these people have a persecution complex and think they should be given immunity to do whatever they want.

I'm trying to think of a mobster who didn't raise their children to be criminals too. I could be here all day if I listed all of them so just in terms of the Colombo family: De Ross's sons and nephews were in the mob, so were Persico's, so were Orena's, so were Franzese's, so were Colombo's, so were Scarpa's, so were Scopo's, so were Langella's..

And being framed and innocent aren't mutually exclusive. OJ Simpson was guilty and everyone knew it but the case was tainted because they went overboard trying to nail him. Franzese being framed, not that I believe it without an impartial source, doesn't presume he was innocent of what he was indicted for.



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Re: Sonny Franzese Exclusive Interview [Re: Serpiente] #960191
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Originally Posted by Serpiente
Close JC he tried to keep them out but he was framed and in the joint .....but still you don’t bring your children into OC

Like I said maybe if he tried a honest days work maybe his kids wouldnt of followed him into that life and he wouldnt of given himself a chance to be "framed"

Re: Sonny Franzese Exclusive Interview [Re: NickSardinia] #960576
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I've said here before that Michael Franzese seemed like one of the few likable rats...But after seeing these videos and hearing him constantly say that he's now a man of god is insulting...His born again claims is all bs..its nothing but a scam...How can you claim to be a man of god but only visit your father once a year, skip his birthday party etc...Because you're too friggin selfish to fly the 3,000 miles ??


Re: Sonny Franzese Exclusive Interview [Re: NickSardinia] #960578
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Not visiting his dad enough will be the least of his problems when Michael meets Saint Peter at the pearly gates.


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Re: Sonny Franzese Exclusive Interview [Re: NickSardinia] #960590
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Not going to talk bad about Sonny but that fucken Michael!

Fucken flying on his fathers coattails in the life !

Then he is extorting his father in his speeches like he is fucken takes care of him and whole time it’s a fucken racket ! Prick !


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Re: Sonny Franzese Exclusive Interview [Re: NickSardinia] #960593
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It's obviously not like a typical father/son relationship. Micheal is at the very least a drop out and Sonny might have threatened him. If this is the case, I could imagine it being difficult to visit a family member who threatens you. Michael has kids of his own, and he's going to look out for them before all else. That being said, Michael just seems like a total opportunistic douchebag so if it's a case of Michael just ghosting Sonny for his own selfish interests, I wouldn't be surprised.

$500/mo. social security. Seems we're taking care of our elders today about as good as we were in the 1930s, which is one of the reasons organized crime groups were formed in the first place.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
Re: Sonny Franzese Exclusive Interview [Re: NickSardinia] #960595
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Michael Franzese is a disgrace. He's no man of God. Almost 20 years ago I went to a restaurant in Little Italy and saw Sonny sitting there with a whole bunch of wiseguys. The guy who played Philly Leotardo was with him. The man is revered on the street. I hate seeing him exploited. What these disgusting people are doing is wrong.

Re: Sonny Franzese Exclusive Interview [Re: NickSardinia] #960624
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Your mother's on her death bed calling you and asking you to come see her before she dies and you ignore her ?? What kind of human being can do something like that ?? Animals have more respect for their family's...He's a no good bum !!

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Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
Your mother's on her death bed calling you and asking you to come see her before she dies and you ignore her ?? What kind of human being can do something like that ?? Animals have more respect for their family's...He's a no good bum !!

agreed

Re: Sonny Franzese Exclusive Interview [Re: NickSardinia] #960674
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Re: Sonny Franzese Exclusive Interview [Re: NickSardinia] #960873
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The guy is better off dead.

Re: Sonny Franzese Exclusive Interview [Re: NickSardinia] #960878
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Michael is just working a racket ...it’s no big deal other then he using family and that just on a different level of disgusting !!!

I wonder if Michael has his claws in a church or had a vested interest in a few popular preachers that have large congregations because this guy is not past running a scam that borders the law you know being tax exempt opens doors.

But yeah all the shit he knows he has to exploit his father ......and you know the old man despises him for it even though the old man is a gangster.

If Sonny has been put away so many years and he probably did not get made till late 20’s or more that means he has had five years on the street how the fuck does he get fifty kills ??? Fucken Government send them over to Korea and he got them there ?


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Originally Posted by Serpiente

Michael is just working a racket ...it’s no big deal other then he using family and that just on a different level of disgusting !!!

I wonder if Michael has his claws in a church or had a vested interest in a few popular preachers that have large congregations because this guy is not past running a scam that borders the law you know being tax exempt opens doors.

But yeah all the shit he knows he has to exploit his father ......and you know the old man despises him for it even though the old man is a gangster.

If Sonny has been put away so many years and he probably did not get made till late 20’s or more that means he has had five years on the street how the fuck does he get fifty kills ??? Fucken Government send them over to Korea and he got them there ?


Hi father does despise him, He knows Michael ratted. He can say what he wants but e's a rat.

Re: Sonny Franzese Exclusive Interview [Re: Beanshooter] #960895
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Originally Posted by Beanshooter
Originally Posted by Serpiente

Michael is just working a racket ...it’s no big deal other then he using family and that just on a different level of disgusting !!!

I wonder if Michael has his claws in a church or had a vested interest in a few popular preachers that have large congregations because this guy is not past running a scam that borders the law you know being tax exempt opens doors.

But yeah all the shit he knows he has to exploit his father ......and you know the old man despises him for it even though the old man is a gangster.

If Sonny has been put away so many years and he probably did not get made till late 20’s or more that means he has had five years on the street how the fuck does he get fifty kills ??? Fucken Government send them over to Korea and he got them there ?


Hi father does despise him, He knows Michael ratted. He can say what he wants but e's a rat.



Bean long time good to see you here .......agreed and everyone in that life thinks just like you .....if not for the world the way it is he would of been hit ....just every agency was sitting on him watching and waiting.


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Re: Sonny Franzese Exclusive Interview [Re: NickSardinia] #961009
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The money Michael said he made with the gas tax scam was SOOoooooooOooooo.000 CRAZY...

He was making $3MM a week.

Even if it went on for just a year that is $700MM

Persico was making $2MM a week.

Can't be

That's just too much money

Where did it go?

I get it was alot of money made those numbers had to be exaggerated

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Re: Sonny Franzese Exclusive Interview [Re: BensonHURST] #961019
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Originally Posted by BensonHURST
The money Michael said he made with the gas tax scam was SOOoooooooOooooo.000 CRAZY...

He was making $3MM a week.

Even if it went on for just a year that is $700MM

Persico was making $2MM a week.

Can't be

That's just too much money

Where did it go?

I get it was alot of money made those numbers had to be exaggerated


He is BSing, maybe the whole racket is that much not just him. He is a liar. Man of God my but

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Originally Posted by alexandarns
Originally Posted by BensonHURST
The money Michael said he made with the gas tax scam was SOOoooooooOooooo.000 CRAZY...

He was making $3MM a week.

Even if it went on for just a year that is $700MM

Persico was making $2MM a week.

Can't be

That's just too much money

Where did it go?

I get it was alot of money made those numbers had to be exaggerated


He is BSing, maybe the whole racket is that much not just him. He is a liar. Man of God my but




Sure that number was everything....the entire setup not there take ..... but it did give Persico’s Financial security for a very long time .... but it not there any longer or that’s what they want the government to believe. They do a very good job at having plenty of businesses that are legitimate and some that never make money.

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Re: Sonny Franzese Exclusive Interview [Re: NickSardinia] #961040
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I seen an interview with Michael where he said he was kicking up 25% which was $2MM a week.

That would $8MM a week gross

That is a BILLION DOLLAR racket in one year.

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You gotta do a little better with the math. 3mm a week is 156mm, 8mm a week is $416mm. Regardless, that's alotta of fucking dough. Michael didn't seem to be your average mobster. You know he knew it wouldn't last forever. He had to have stashed a pile away. Did the govt ever take his assets, if so, how much did they take?

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Sorry
Was.half sleeping when I did the math

The thing is It went on for years

So in the end still BILLION DOLLARS

Can't be

Would be the biggest racket in American History

The Colombo's would.be the richest family and they are NOT.

Why would Michael be doing the "BORN AGAIN" Racket if he had all that money?

Michael def paid persico off

Back than Persico killed everyone Disctict Attorneys, Cops He would kill the son of a man he hated Franzeese, that was a rat?

Re: Sonny Franzese Exclusive Interview [Re: NickSardinia] #961227
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Michael did an awesome interview with Valuetainment, and he tells a story about his father essentially "not defending" him at a sitdown. Not really throwing him under the bus, but distancing himself. And he relates how a life that could do that to a father and son can't be good.


This is not a normal father son relationship here.


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Re: Sonny Franzese Exclusive Interview [Re: NickSardinia] #961570
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Any father that would being there son into a murderous organization is not normal.

If life circumstances brought the father in that's one thin however, every father should want better for his son.

You are taking a blood oath to put the family before your children.
And some of these guys have killed their sons.

Imagine that?

By right Sonny should have killer both his sons.
And given the opportunity to for the family he would have.

How is that for normal?

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