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Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: Moe_Tilden] #956779
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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
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Originally Posted by tenpin477
Why kill an 89 year old man in jail? Unless he was gonna rat it doesn't seem like a good move.


Three potential reasons:

Reason 1 - He obviously pissed a lot of people off when he was on the streets. He may have killed someone and the victim may have had a family member locked up who wanted revenge.

Reason 2 - Regardless of whether you think he was an actual snitch, or simply used Connolly for protection and never gave him real info, he was still considered a snitch by many people.

Reason 3 - Some young punk may simply have wanted some street cred for taking out a street legend. Simple as that.


What credibility could one possibly derive from murdering an 89 year old man? It's a bitch move.


Not saying it makes sense. But in demented street logic, that 89 year old man was one of the most famous gangsters in US history. He was the subject of countless books and a movie starring Johnny Depp. Killing him cements the killer's name in the streets... again trying to think like a low-level hood/ or a mob associate trying to make a name for themselves.


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Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: Moe_Tilden] #956780
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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted by Stubbs
Originally Posted by tenpin477
Why kill an 89 year old man in jail? Unless he was gonna rat it doesn't seem like a good move.


Three potential reasons:

Reason 1 - He obviously pissed a lot of people off when he was on the streets. He may have killed someone and the victim may have had a family member locked up who wanted revenge.

Reason 2 - Regardless of whether you think he was an actual snitch, or simply used Connolly for protection and never gave him real info, he was still considered a snitch by many people.

Reason 3 - Some young punk may simply have wanted some street cred for taking out a street legend. Simple as that.


What credibility could one possibly derive from murdering an 89 year old man? It's a bitch move.


Bulger isnt a simple 89 y old,was the man who inspired the black mass movie and in prison for a lone wolf kill a famous man is a way to survive.

Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: Stubbs] #956781
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Originally Posted by Stubbs
Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted by Stubbs
Originally Posted by tenpin477
Why kill an 89 year old man in jail? Unless he was gonna rat it doesn't seem like a good move.


Three potential reasons:

Reason 1 - He obviously pissed a lot of people off when he was on the streets. He may have killed someone and the victim may have had a family member locked up who wanted revenge.

Reason 2 - Regardless of whether you think he was an actual snitch, or simply used Connolly for protection and never gave him real info, he was still considered a snitch by many people.

Reason 3 - Some young punk may simply have wanted some street cred for taking out a street legend. Simple as that.


What credibility could one possibly derive from murdering an 89 year old man? It's a bitch move.


Not saying it makes sense. But in demented street logic, that 89 year old man was one of the most famous gangsters in US history. He was the subject of countless books and a movie starring Johnny Depp. Killing him cements the killer's name in the streets... again trying to think like a low-level hood/ or a mob associate trying to make a name for themselves.


Don't get me wrong, Stubbs, I knew where you were coming from. I just don't understand their logic.

I mean I thought it was shitty of Greg Scarpa's son to beat up Vic Amuso that time because of Amuso's age and Amuso had only just turned 60.

These people must think Lennox Lewis v Floyd Mayweather would be a fair fight.


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Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: thebigfella] #956783
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This does not add up as a typical prison killing. He's transferred, then killed a day later. Not a good look for the federal prison system.


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Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: OakAsFan] #956785
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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
This does not add up as a typical prison killing. He's transferred, then killed a day later. Not a good look for the federal prison system.

+one

Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: VitoSpatafore] #956786
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Take this for what it’s worth...

A member on BH said he saw on Twitter that supposedly he was wheeled into a corner where there were no cameras and 3 guys beat him with a slock and gouged out his eyes with a shiv.

Another poster said he heard the same thing.

A slock is a lock in a sock. Anything solid inside of a sock is a common prison weapon. Hard soap, canned goods, etc. have also been known to be used.

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Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: VitoSpatafore] #956790
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Pussy move, he wasn't a threat to anyone but the government


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Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: VitoSpatafore] #956791
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article talking about the beating. Mentions the 3 had mafia ties.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...bars.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus

Last edited by Michael_Giovanni; 10/30/18 04:09 PM.
Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: Moe_Tilden] #956792
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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted by pmac
Really he got killed. Karma. Good riddance


Woah! I thought you loved gangsters. Is this really pmac?

I dont think anybody us bad as jace lol. Anyway like you said good riddance

Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: Michael_Giovanni] #956793
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Sounds like an old beef being settled. He had a lot of enemies.

Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: Michael_Giovanni] #956794
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Originally Posted by Michael_Giovanni
article talking about the beating. Mentions the 3 had mafia ties.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...bars.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus


Damn, from that article:

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Law enforcement sources tell DailyMail.com that Whitey had been talking about outing people in the FBI – people in the top echelon of the informant program.

The sources said he hadn't even been processed at the West Virginia facility when he was killed. But someone who knew he was being transferred put the word out - the killer had to know he was coming.

It may not be a coincidence that Rep. Stephen Lynch is from Southie, Bulger's old turf. The Massachusetts Democrat last year introduced the Confidential Informant Accountability Act - which calls for congressional oversight into the selection and use of confidential informants. It's possible that Bulger was set to open up to someone on Lynch's team with claims of abuses in the program, and word got out.

Bulger's brother John told the on Tuesday that the family had not yet been notified of his death.

Meanwhile, a fellow inmate with Mafia connections is being investigated in the homicide, three sources briefed on the investigation told the Globe.


Would be wild if a high ranking FBI agent from Boston passed along word to an incarcerated mobster from Boston to take him out... passed him word that Bulger was being transferred there to shut him up.


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Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: M_Martino] #956795
10/30/18 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by M_Martino
Sounds like an old beef being settled. He had a lot of enemies.

Thats true. Although its a bit risky given how high profile he was. Its a fitting end to him though....almost like a movie. Lasting all those years on the run until he finally caught and is killed instead of dying naturally

Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: JCrusher] #956797
10/30/18 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JCrusher
Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted by pmac
Really he got killed. Karma. Good riddance


Woah! I thought you loved gangsters. Is this really pmac?

I dont think anybody us bad as jace lol. Anyway like you said good riddance


LOL pmac knows his stuff. Knows more than I do about the mob. I'm just breaking balls.

Careful about mentioning Jace. If you say her name five times in front of the mirror she will be back on the forum.


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Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: VitoSpatafore] #956798
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if its boston guys 1 name will be craig

Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: VitoSpatafore] #956799
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If what some people are saying is true and he had his eyes gouged out etc. then that's absolutely inexcusable on the part of whoever did it.

Shooting someone is one thing but at least it's an impersonal and perfunctory method of killing another criminal. Gouging etc. is more like what a serial killer with bad brain wiring would do.


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Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: VitoSpatafore] #956800
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moe why would i hate allie persico. im the persico family club president. if the lady mary bari wasn't working for the fbi she probaly be alive you think? demeo reap what you sow, scarpa was a full fledge fbi agaent. no flowers

Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: Moe_Tilden] #956801
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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
If what some people are saying is true and he had his eyes gouged out etc. then that's absolutely inexcusable on the part of whoever did it.

Shooting someone is one thing but at least it's an impersonal and perfunctory method of killing another criminal. Gouging etc. is more like what a serial killer with bad brain wiring would do

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Agreed. Not trying to defend whitey but that really wasnt necessary. Plus he probably wasnt gonna live much longer anyway

Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: VitoSpatafore] #956802
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that guy mike donahue kids must be popping bottles. all his victims kids ect. if it went down like that and tommorrows the red sox parade and holloween.

Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: VitoSpatafore] #956804
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This guy ruled with a reign of terror. He strangled women to death and had their teeth pulled out. He showed no mercy. And then he also ratted on his rivals. Not surprised that this happened to him. He killed dozens. Paul Weadick is there. Flemmi testified against him. He's doing life with no chance of parole. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if he's involved, nothing to lose.

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it was just on channel 7 the guy donahues widow said i wish i had a champange bottle so i could pop it then his son said something its was bleeped out

Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: Ant2000] #956807
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Originally Posted by Ant2000
Rumor is it was the Mafia who killed him. One thing is sure about the Mob and it stands true, no matter how long it takes they will be patient to get revenge.


Yes, I heard this as well. Apparently it was someone connected to the Italians. I have no idea if there's any truth to this though or if it's just people talking. Are there any known LCN members locked up at USP Hazelton?

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Finally....woman killing rat bitch.


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Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: FrankValenti] #956809
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Originally Posted by FrankValenti
Originally Posted by Ant2000
Rumor is it was the Mafia who killed him. One thing is sure about the Mob and it stands true, no matter how long it takes they will be patient to get revenge.


Yes, I heard this as well. Apparently it was someone connected to the Italians. I have no idea if there's any truth to this though or if it's just people talking. Are there any known LCN members locked up at USP Hazelton?


He gave up a lot of info on the Italians in Boston back in the 80s right?


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Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: VitoSpatafore] #956810
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Why would the Mafia kill whitey? Gravano walk around without a care in the world, even did 15 years in prison and nobody touched him, is the Mafia waiting for hi to turn 100 too? Say what you want about whitey but he was gangster to the bone and he never killed a defense less old an


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Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: VitoSpatafore] #956811
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Old man


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Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: VitoSpatafore] #956812
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Flemmi is a spineless coward, he stood there and watched whitey kill his girlfriend and was too much of a coward to stop him


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Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: VitoSpatafore] #956814
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Winter Hill gang?


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Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: VitoSpatafore] #956815
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I'm calling it right now.


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Re: Whitey Bulger dead [Re: VitoSpatafore] #956817
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Thier not touching anybody that's young enough t defend themselves, whoever participated in whitey's death have nothing to brag about


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