Interesting & a realistic assumption. Calabrese was heard on tape saying how loose things were, likely meaning no strong command heirarchy compared to the past.

From my limited understanding it doesn’t seem like the Outfit got big into the internet sports gambling with 40-50 agents deep and 8 figure + betting action like the East Coast crews.
The Outfit also seemed to have huge loan shark books which I’m sure they still have but you don’t need a big crew for that. As part of their lending business it seems many had legit industrial/ services biz with connections to the Govt agencies. That also seems to be an active biz but again you don’t need the headcount like back in day gambling, extortion, theft rackets.

It makes sense that 15 years or so ago the Outfit top guys with big $ decided to shrink , close ranks and reduce their security risk ( such as running a huge phone driven sports book and extortion via violence ) and ultimately protect what they have left and have $ to still make moves.

I’m very interested to read how things really are as there has been almost no info.

Also someone referenced non LCN Italians having crews in big cities . Please elaborate as this is the first I’ve heard of this .

It's been debated pretty extensively on this forum before. Aside from the obvious -- it's old as dirt -- I think it's pretty much perceived as a spaghetti-on-the-wall approach. In other terms, hyper-aggressive in terms of labeling everyone who ever reportedly had some sort of vague Outfit affiliation into some sort of 'membership.'

In the ANP threads where a lot of great information was shared, basically the 'modern' Outfit looked like this: I think there were just three crews, Cicero, Chinatown and Grand Ave. At the time DiFronzo was the head but uninvolved; he's obviously dead now. SC basically calling the shots. Scams/biz were basically street stuff you'd expect. 40-50 made guys, total.

There was an acknowlegement that it was very, very modest relative to years past, and at this point I don't think any of the posters who really knew their stuff who posted there would vehemently oppose the possibility that large chunks of it, even in the modest form above, could have just fallen away. They might not totally agree with it, but I doubt they would think you were crazy for asking.

The F. Calabrese quip referenced above was from Family Secrets. I forget when he said it, probably in the late early 2000s, but he said that if you got rid of seven guys at that point you could take over the whole thing. He made a comment following along the lines of "that's all that's left" or "that's what it's come to" or something.

Where did you get your info that SC is calling the shots?

I actually forget but probably those threads. I actually might have that wrong. SD I think was who was pegged.

Who is SC?

^ Salvatore Cataudella

SC might be credible, SC and the large guy was close and the ice pick and the builder might be sitting on the bench, advising, like Ricca and acardio... I like that idea

Av might have too much heat

Maybe but I went back and checked and the name I heard was SD.

You guys should check out the ANP threads; they are a trip!

I read them from time to time, it's great

Mike Posner was recently involved in a meat scandal in Curacao with some shady caribbean figures who were also involved in a major drug probe by the FBI.
Posner has ties to the outfit some visited his casino in Aruba.

Which article’s thread is the one you’re referring to jonny? There’s plenty and most have no threads. I guess it’s an old one, like from 2013-15?

The Chicago Outfit Stills exists

It has had to morph itself with the rapidly changing times and is not keeping up with it as well as it should. It is hard enough for a legitimate Business let alone a Illegitimate one to adapt to this fast pace business model.

There's alot of info in the comments

I’m on my phone but I think if you visit on desktop it’s possible to view the articles that are “most commented on” or “most read.” The interviews with Magnifichi are great. The posters who were really in the know were The Don, Black Angelo, Fosco and a few more.

There is probably more about the current state of the Outfit in those threads gathered in one source than anywhere since Family Secrets. Actually it’s really the ONLY real source I am aware of for any real insite into the Outfit since Family Secrets. I know there is a lot on Gangster Report but I’ve never really been able to get into that for some reason.

So if they do exits, then how many members do they have ?

The NY mafia made hundreds of millions in online sports gambling, the illegal sports betting market is thought to be worth up to $380 billion annually.

Thank you jonny. I’ll check it out.

Is this due to Panozzo’s trial?

After reading older posts on the recently bumped up “Mob Murders” thread, I’ve noticed how the Outfit is allegedly behind 5 hits (Zizzo, Dahmer, Saladino, Chiaramonti and that Hispanic enforcer who’s name escapes me now) in the last 10-15 years...interesting. I didnt even know that Sal Cataudella was almost killed.

How do you figure Saladino was killed? The guy weighed 400 hundred pounds when they found him dead. Interesting thing about the Dahmer hit in Park Ridge is that Panozzo and his son were living in Park Ridge around the same time of the hit. Not sure if there is any connection or bad blood between them and Sal C.

My take on the Outfit is that they are obviously still there but there problem is they didn’t modernize with the times. They didn’t take advantage of the drug market like NY did. All of their rackets are legal now. The government put them out of business that way. A lot of the younger guys who should have been coming up in the Outfit and making their bones got involved in using drugs and wasted away. Now they have slim pickings. No Nose didn’t do any favors by not being active and looking for new rackets. He stood in the way. Also, a lot of the Outfit guys that had ambition and wanted the outfit to be more active got caught up by the law; Calabrese, Marcello and Big Mike. The generation that was coming up in the 80s are now elderly now. After they go, who knows what will happen with them.

(allegedly) Salvatore "Solly D" DeLaurentis





This guy seems very smart to me. I love his saying "I don't know that I'm the boss, before the FBI told me."

Cool pix. Ha.. took me about half an hour to figure out what restaurant this is.

I guess we’re better than NY w/ them meeting at a Pizzeria Uno!