Yesterday the FBI released their entire Nicky Scarfo file.

https://vault.fbi.gov/nicodemo-scarfo/nicodemo-scarfo-part-01-of-01.pdf/view

Pfft. I had a file that big when I was in school.

And whom ever reads this it’s not Philip that’s the rat before he was a rat.....Nick would of been indicted immediately if it was Philip not 8 - 9 years down the road , once I can get to read this more clear maybe able to tell who was on the inside but whoever it was did not have to much knowledge unless its different further in the file.

I don’t think the government as bad as they are could let all those different guys get killed especially when it was open warfare in Philadelphia they would’ve pulled Nick out.

There is no way in my mind that the government is that far gone. But one never knows.

Just guessing but I am sure Phillips name is blacked out in certain pages because he did flip that’s always a possibility but there are plenty of guys on the inside that new everything almost , all the families and all the way western PA and north to scranton many cousins of theses guys were around all the time. Then again Yogi flipped and his name is present but no way they let Nick keep going.....

They never had anything on him till the end they would of had all kinds of info if a underboss or skipper was bad.

pretty boring stuff cause it 80 percent redacted seen a few things like the boston guys larry zaninno and doc the super jew bookie had dealings with scarfo he even went up there it says july 1981 that new history and the springfield guys from the genovese crew al bruno and scibelli brothers had dealings with him. serp im sure it will interest you they dont black out all the bars they hung out at and street addresses are the peoples living quarters. cool it came out thou

Yeah know them our island is only seven miles long not much we did not know. And AC is only a few miles long and several blocks wide .

the more you think about it pretty crazy scarfo became the boss of a family even thou he was headquaterd a hour away from philly he must have been loved by the genovese folks

My eyes are bad reading it so tell me the page of the local info and I may be able to answer,,,but no way they even had to wait for the crow and Tommy to get Nick no way they keep bullets flying all over Phillies .

yaeh im 35 it hurts my eyes i'll double check something about the myway lounge and a bar across the street. it has addresses of places thee feds were doing stop check survilence all threw out it

My way was Nicks bar he bartended there before he became partner.

its boring as fuck serp but still interesting espec. since thats your part of the world. what a legacy he must have left down there. hes dumb son should have tried to plead out i bet they offerd him something like 20 he took his chance

tell you what serp they put a mgm casino in downtown springfield mass its nice the crowd nuts last saturday will see if it pays off

there hiring security off the street in springfield lol its like a gang of young spanish kids its wild. massachusetts tried to follow laws in casinos around usa no felons allowed to work in casinos yaeh rite the house had to redraw a bill very quiet they couldnt find people for all the shit jobs so you can be a felon and work in a casino in mass. sneaked it rite by

serp any the casinos down there open a sports book like in vegas you sit down watch every sports in the world drink and bet?

Even though this is heavily redacted, it's still pretty cool to have. Thanks for letting us know.

Pmac back in 70’s and 80’s they were hiring off the street every department and after a small amount of people from Vegas that has experience it was all locals even in the eyes in the sky so we knew everyone and everything never ever did we have to pay after the first time and it was a blast.

I like the sport book at Ocean and Borgata it’s just great at the Ocean you can sit at the bar in the book and yes actually a Vegas company did the Oceans book so it’s very similar.

I can’t even begin to tell you the great time that we had here all my life ..it’s a shame I am to old to see it come around again but if the economy stay strong it will .

Ocean Resorts Sportsbook is AMAZING.

Right on Dante it’s a good spot ...a friend in a President in a hotel casino and I feel bad when I don’t go to his spot but what can you do and actually the guy that I am talking about was one of the guys on the hospital list that could go up when Jr. got shot, there were several names other then I and all Ducktown locals on that security list .

I just don’t get “ still to this day why Nick sr. did not put Skinny and Mikey C. in there place quick ... he was getting reports way before Jr. was shot . I am guessing Nick did not kill both because of there fathers .... and must of thought these guys had some respect for the life that there fathers gave there life for. Mikey was no joke but it just goes to show you that in that life you have to kill and keep on killing ! But in the end he did not follow through...

Nick was going to make Jr. soon and they were just about to get some sort of functionality back when it all went to shit...and to this day no kind of LCN family....just a gang I guess.


How broken was the mob at that time .... NY was getting crushed and of course so was Philly that a street crew took the LCN rackets for years and the Westside calls for Skinny and others to be taken out a couple times and it don’t happen... what a big difference a few years made.

Lot of people have a go at Nick but he was a true gangster and the likes of Phi who was a coward makes me laugh!

Not just Phil .... he was a killer and no joke while the odds were in his favor....many many just like him. The ones like Nick sr. and even Nick jr. are a rarity in that life.

Years back when I would talk about NY and North Jersey and other states not recognizing the people supposedly in charge or what went down in Philly people thought I was just talking , but now with all wiretapping and guys flipping much has come out even NY wanting the top three or four guys in Philly dead .

Now this was not just a brain storm from a couple guys it was other families that did not recognize Philly bosses at least three families still were behind Nick sr. as boss and if not for Phil L flipping Philly would still be a real family in NY eyes but because of how week and fed pressure the NY families let be and it was not till many years later that NY slowly had guys doing business with guys and associates of Philly and if NY bosses were not all or most under indictment or close the administration would of been killed and and still were several plots anyway that just never got completed.

I am sure more that I spoke about years ago will come out as these guys get busted and flip but one thing for sure it’s nothing like it’s supposed to be or was.

Philly seems to be running real strong....

but Ralph natalie got made my bruno and gambino at the same time lmfao.

I don’t think it’s running as a traditional family.....there are guys with crews that are not kicking and that would of been a death sentence.

The skippers and up are top heavy almost to the point that there is a possibility that there is no real structure no way are all the guys that were at the top five years ago are sitting down for others ..... something not right .

There is way way to many chiefs and not enough soldiers...... and if there are those soldiers are flying low and no earning...so who wants to spend half your life in the joint if nobody earning.... if they were earning like back in the day there would be evidence .

So it’s very possible that they are just doing whatever and nothing is organized other then a couple skippers that are earners and I think Skinny only has a few of them .

That guy was not liked or ever around Ducktown let alone in Gambinos good graces .

Uncle Joe saved that family I reckon, would not surprise me if we were underestimating them a structured family

Agreed he was a level headed guy....but he knew nothing about the life as a boss....before that you would think he was around guys in the life but he was not... he hung with locals when out on streets after Chucky & Yogi and all went away while he was out.

He never mingled with others from different city’s and never invested in business in anything outside of the neighborhood.

But he was level headed... and was able to get his claws int some guys ...but it was George and Lance and Stevie ect. that were on the street ...even when he was not boss I am guessing that they just always looked up to him as a Philly guy and was tight with Yogi back here in the day . But he was nothing here in the prime.


Now don’t get me wrong they are active .....but nobody is in big business and nobody is getting rich .....but are they getting paid ..yes...but it’s mainly shy and gambling and stolen goods for the little guys.

The price rigging is way down to a few small contractors and a few favors in union stuff....but for me it’s got to be a million a year just to get me thinking.

Serp, I remember reading that Philly never had the big, lucrative white collar scams like New York had. Like Philly never had much in terms of garbage or construction.. even going back to the Scarfo years. Is that true? If so, that’d make sense that not many people are earning these days.

And I agree about the “all chiefs not enough indians” part. Killing Bruno and the ensuing wars in the 80s and early 90s really gutted the family. Killed a lot of smart people and big time earners, and too many rats. I mean, losing smart guys like Leonetti and both Testa and his son hurt the family a lot. Eventually you end up with people in power who are a lot less talented... that and your bench becomes a lot thinner and weaker.

That, and Skinny Joey was never really an earner. He did a great job of winning the war and controlling his Young Turks or whatever, but he’s probably not much of a businessman.

You said it all .... without teaching you have shit.....even in that life .....the trash was small there and it did not have to be .....it’s a big area ...but nobody brought it in but a few bid rigging type thing.

And the killing of the Bosses and Nick was not going out by treason he much rather shoot it out in a dark room .

But yeah Skinny was what he was and yes he has ten fucken lives...

Nick would of never broke the rules like some of those guys .... but he was killing to many ....and not for the mob rules for the Feds but his outcome would of been same because every member knew almost everything everyone did and many don’t know the Crow was a junkie and a drunk and would of flipped no matter.....don’t believe that shit Nick was going to hit him in the joint ....Nick was not stupid he would of never told it ....Crow would of just been dead ...Nick is/ was not stupid in that life.

Serp, so you think Nick Sr was a good earner but Skinny Joey isn't, just more of a warlord?

Was Nick justified to behave the way he did after his two predecessors were brutally murdered? It's hard to like the guy for it, but it makes total psychological sense.

I personally think Ligambi did a fine job by keeping the family quiet for once