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Shortest tenured made guys #954081
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Probably an obscure question, and there are plenty of guys who have had decades long time within LCN but given that there's an idea of when guys were made and when they were either killed or died otherwise, who comes to mind as having a very short lived career in LCN?

Re: Shortest tenured made guys [Re: irishkaos] #954084
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The only come to mind are:

Salvie Testa born in 1956 made in 1980 and killed in 1984
Cesare "The Tall Guy" Bonventre born in 1951 made in the 1970s killed in 1984
Michael "Mikey Chang" Ciancaglini was in his 30s when was killed in 1993 by stanfa men

Re: Shortest tenured made guys [Re: irishkaos] #954109
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Wow, Salvie was only 24 when he was made? how soon after did he become capo?

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Originally Posted by Jimmy_Two_Times
Wow, Salvie was only 24 when he was made? how soon after did he become capo?


http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/u...p;Board=8&main=36231&type=thread

In January 1982 during a making ceremony at the home of Associate Robert "Toro" Lucicero in Vineland, NJ Salvie Testa was made capo.
In the same 1980 making ceremony was made also phill leonetti that was 22 y old,salvatore "wayne" grande 27 y old and frank narducci jr 27 y.
During Scarfo era was made more young members that in the 1990s would pass to skinny joe side.

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Re: Shortest tenured made guys [Re: irishkaos] #954114
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I recall that in Sammy Gravano's book, Gotti made an old school gangster on his deathbed. A sort of final honor to him.

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I recall that in Sammy Gravano's book, Gotti made an old school gangster on his deathbed. A sort of final honor to him.

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Originally Posted by mike68
I recall that in Sammy Gravano's book, Gotti made an old school gangster on his deathbed. A sort of final honor to him.

He was ravaged with cancer and asked to me made before he died. Gravano said they conducted the ceremony in a hospital room, apparently he was so weak Gravano couldn't get blood from his finger.

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Can't recall the guys name. I believe he was inside Sparks as backup on the night of the Castellano hit.

Re: Shortest tenured made guys [Re: sbhc] #954141
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Originally Posted by sbhc
Originally Posted by mike68
I recall that in Sammy Gravano's book, Gotti made an old school gangster on his deathbed. A sort of final honor to him.

He was ravaged with cancer and asked to me made before he died. Gravano said they conducted the ceremony in a hospital room, apparently he was so weak Gravano couldn't get blood from his finger.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Paruta

The man was Joseph Paruta but wasn't the cancer he had a disease that killed him at 58 y,he was called the gravano personal luca brasi.

Re: Shortest tenured made guys [Re: irishkaos] #954145
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John veasey was surposely inducted by john stanfa in like January94 and fliped by march 94. If you consider him actualy made. Theres 2 colombo guy joe something an a guy named souza they were inducted in like 2006 and both fliped in 08

Re: Shortest tenured made guys [Re: pmac] #954183
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Originally Posted by pmac
John veasey was surposely inducted by john stanfa in like January94 and fliped by march 94. If you consider him actualy made. Theres 2 colombo guy joe something an a guy named souza they were inducted in like 2006 and both fliped in 08


Pmac,irishkaos write killed or dead not that flipped.

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sally horse, bonano guy

Re: Shortest tenured made guys [Re: irishkaos] #954204
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Chrissy Moltisanti.....

Re: Shortest tenured made guys [Re: irishkaos] #954208
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I never really believed gravano with the oldman peruta. I still think he made him up is there proof he actually existed? I guess you can look at he debriefing he couldnt lie to the fbi but in his book he makes peruta do all the killings and then dies.

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Roy demeo made in 1977 killed by 1981. Thers probaly abunch of guys made in 1977 and killed by 1980 probaly dozens with carmine persico and galante just have guys killed left and right in those years.

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pmac..he existed

Re: Shortest tenured made guys [Re: irishkaos] #954213
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Tommy DeSimone was made for all of one second, wasn't he?


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Originally Posted by pmac
Roy demeo made in 1977 killed by 1981. Thers probaly abunch of guys made in 1977 and killed by 1980 probaly dozens with carmine persico and galante just have guys killed left and right in those years

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Roy died january 1983

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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Tommy DeSimone was made for all of one second, wasn't he?

No chance.

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Shorty Spero was made in 1975/76 and was killed in early 1980 seeking revenge for the death of his brother

Re: Shortest tenured made guys [Re: irishkaos] #954219
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What about the Genovese associate who was waiting to be made then a Bonnano guy said he was a rat and they just straight whacked him immediately

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Oldman Paruta was from Bensonhurst

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the way gravano pumped him up in the book like everything gravano did bad was peruta. i guess he was a real person take bronx an alex post

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now we need a peruta pic. sammy made he out to be like bejamin button midget dressed like al capone

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Thanks for the info Furio! Much obliged!!

Re: Shortest tenured made guys [Re: pmac] #954268
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Originally Posted by pmac
now we need a peruta pic. sammy made he out to be like bejamin button midget dressed like al capone


Paruta had the werner syndrome a light form of progenya that makes grow old quickly and then kill you when are 50 or 60 y old with a cancer. Plus Paruta was also very short but certainly he wasn't a guy to joke about because he was ready to kill Huck Carbonaro because took the last piece of cake.

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Apparently he smoked like a chimney too

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Originally Posted by streetbossliborio
What about the Genovese associate who was waiting to be made then a Bonnano guy said he was a rat and they just straight whacked him immediately


Who was that?
And was he a rat?

Sounds strange that Chin, would take the word of the Bonanno's about a rat in his Borgata an s just whack him.

So many rumors about so many guys being rats on the street.

The guy should have had an opportunity to defend his honor and his slonsor should have stood up for him.

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Gerard Pappa, not sure the exact dates(1974-1980?) but he didn't have his button too long before he got clipped.

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Re: Shortest tenured made guys [Re: irishkaos] #954481
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Pat "the cat" Spirito was made in philly in 1981 and killed 2 y after.

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