That is correct.

That also is fact.

I think there was a reference to it in the Sopranos, in one scene the agent investigating Tony says the same thing in front of his fellow agents after getting word about a killing of a Soprano rival.

Here it is


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK68ziSJABk

I don't care what anyone says, after reading the credible book "Deal w/ the Devil",Lin Devecchio is worse than Scarpa..a real scumbag..especially after reading about that poor detective Simone that they framed.

This is probably the first time we have diametrically opposed opinions H, in my eyes Lance is a propagandist for hire. He did the same kind of work for the Gottis..

And while I absolutely do believe DeVecchio 'crossed the line' more than once in his relationship (he even calls it a friendship) with Scarpa. I do not believe he gave Scarpa info on who, when and where he could kill his enemies in the Colombo war and even before that time with victims like Mari Bari and Joe Brewster..

Btw, in response to other posts: DeVecchio's book was even called WE'RE GOING TO WIN THIS THING.

EDIT:
If I'm completely honest, I have to admit that I'm probably a little biased because I just read DeVecchio's book and I haven't read Lance his book. I only read his book with Junior Gotti and some stuff on his website that I didn't find objective. But Nicky from Tampa also spoke highly of Lance's book about Scarpa, so I'm going to read it because now I'm very curious if it will change my opinion..

Here is a shocking interview with Pistone. The part that he would kill someone is IMHO when Pistone crossed the line. He was not an Agent then he was a gangster. The fact that he would kill someone in furtherance of an investigation is mind boggling. Now it makes sense why he vouches for DelVecchio and Connolly. Surprised he doesnt vouch for the Mob Cops too.

http://www.thechicagosyndicate.com/2007/01/joe-pistone-confesses-to-crimes-as-mob.html

Monday, January 29, 2007
Joe Pistone Confesses to Crimes as Mob Mole
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Friends of ours: Bonanno Crime Family, Gambino Crime Family, Benjamin "Lefty Guns" Ruggiero, Dominick "Sonny Black" Napolitano, Anthony "Bruno" Indelicato, Carmine Galante
Friends of mine: "Donnie Brasco"

Legendary FBI agent Joe Pistone is confessing for the first time that he broke the law during the years he spent undercover as mob wanna-be Donnie Brasco.

Warehouse burglaries. Beatings. Truck hijackings. And even a conspiracy to murder a Bonanno crime family capo.

In his new memoir, Pistone details the crimes he committed to prove his loyalty to the gang he eventually took down. "Sometimes you have to do stuff you don't normally do, you wouldn't do," Pistone told the Daily News, which got an exclusive peek at "Donnie Brasco: Unfinished Business."

For instance, there was the phone call that came in 1981 when Pistone and his mob buddies were playing cards in Brooklyn's Motion Lounge.

It was a tip that Bonanno big Anthony (Bruno) Indelicato, who took part in the infamous 1979 rubout of Gambino boss Carmine Galante, was camped out on Staten Island.

On the orders of his own capo, Dominick (Sonny Black) Napolitano, Pistone headed out to find Indelicato - with a .25-caliber automatic.

It turned out the caller had bum information, but the former lawman admits he would have pulled the trigger on Indelicato before jeopardizing his life or the operation. "If Bruno's there, he's gone," Pistone writes.

"If I have to put a bullet in his head, I will, and I'll deal with the federal government and the Staten Island DA later. ... There's no doubt they both would charge me for murder. The Bureau would brand me a rogue agent and hang me out."

During his six years infiltrating Sonny Black's vicious crew, Pistone dug up enough evidence to put away nearly 200 mobsters, all while making life-or-death decisions on how far to take his role-playing.

Now 65, the New Jersey native lives with his wife in an unidentified location, but will come out of hiding for a book tour in the coming weeks.

Over the years, Pistone - portrayed by Johnny Depp in the 1997 movie "Donnie Brasco" - has been cagey when discussing how he gained the trust of an insular gang of suspicious men because revealing more could have damaged prosecutions. But his most revealing book to date details the incredible lengths he went to.

Take the beating he delivered on two druggies dumb enough to stick up Pistone and his mob pal Benjamin (Lefty Guns) Ruggiero in the stairwell of a Little Italy walkup. "You just saw two dead punks run down the stairs," Ruggiero told him.

At Ruggiero's urging, Pistone caught up with them a few days later near Little Italy and meted out the punishment. "He hit the pavement as if I'd had a roll of dimes in my right fist," Pistone writes.

"I looked down at the kid on the ground and realized he was out cold and so I sprung suddenly and hauled off an overhand right on the other one and he went down ... "From the kidney blows they bled piss for weeks. And until the breaks healed they had no use of their fingers for such things as shooting a gun."

It was savage, but Pistone says the beating saved their lives. "Otherwise they would have got killed," Pistone said. "Either I go take care of it or they [the mob] will. You don't stick up a wiseguy and live to tell about it." He's quick to point out that the assaults he carried out always involved thieves or other wiseguys. "No citizens got hurt," he said.

Pistone also admits getting cuts of between $2,500 and $5,000 from warehouse burglaries he took part in but says he turned over the money to the FBI.

He doesn't offer details on the hijackings he carried out. But he admits that "my participation in Mafia hijacking has always been an open sore for me, something that I have hesitated to talk about."

Even after 30 years, Pistone is still angry that the FBI didn't let him stay undercover longer so that he could become a made man. "Imagine if I had been made," Pistone writes. "It would have been the biggest humiliation the Mafia had ever suffered. And it was the one chance the FBI would ever have to pull it off.

"Imagine the embarrassment for the Mafia from coast to coast and all the way to Sicily whenthe news got out that the exalted Bonanno crime family had made an agent."

Thanks to Thomas Zambito

In his defense he never said he would follow through with orders to kill Indelicato or that it was his intent to kill Indelicato. What he was saying is that he would've prioritised his life over Indelicato's if it turned into a life and death situation; he would've used self-defense.

@BillyBrizzi

I hear what you're saying re: mob books with a biased narrative and propaganda etc.

It's why I don't plan on reading Junior Gotti's book, or John Alite's book, or the book by Joe Colombo's son.

If I read a book about Gotti written by Jerry Capeci at least I know it will have the cold hard facts, and I won't be putting money in the pockets of a killer or someone who profited in some way from murder.

Sorry Moe, but I don't see it that way. I get the "jeopardizing his life" part but NOT for the "operation" part.

In the latest AHC episode about Pistone, he says that he was called to a meeting where two Bonanno soldiers accused him of not being a jewel thief and that he might be FBI. His mentor Jilly was there and defended him and Pistone punched one of his accusers.

There's no way to know if these accounts are true. I doubt this one.

He's been telling that story for yrs....I believe it..he says that if he didn't sucker punch the non-made guy, he would have lost face & became (more) un-believable,,never had any identity problems after that ,except ,now Tony Mirra took notice.

Another claim by Pistone is that he was and is that he is still the target of a $500K mob contract. Have any other sources verified that? Years ago, in another mob related episode, that claim was disputed.

Yeah I'm not a big fan of this DeVecchio either.

Agreed. Look i dont like that Pistone was "going to bat" for Devecchio BUT i still consider them different. Pistone never fell in love with those guys like Devecchio admitted he did. Pistone was there to put those guys in jail and didnt feel any obligation to help them or feel sorry for them. Devecchio admits he had a genuine friendship with the grim reaper and got close to crossing the line(although we know he went past it).

I think that's water under the bridge, I saw a video of him outside the Motion lounge..& somebody screamed out their car window "f------- rat!...why didn't they stop? like w/ a lot of old stoolies...nobody gives enough a shit ..was 2 long ago..besides , who's gonna fork over that kind of $$ nowadays 4 that old man who was a cop just doin; his job..like Sonny Black said...(..if it was anybody , I'm glad it was him...).

The glasses are a joke, like we wouldn't recognize him without them..But he had big balls...He went after the mob when they had dozens and dozens of killers, not like Garcia going after the weakest crew he could find !!

It's a lie by Pistone. He did a good job getting into that crew, but in trying to capitalize on it he lost his self respect in search of the Almighty dollar and his ego.

Well, who would you tend to believe? An FBI agent or criminals who lie, cheat, thieve and murder for a living? I know who I'd believe. Even if he's exaggerating, let him, he served his country, and put his ass on the line to put bad people away.

FBI agnets have been caught lying, cheating, and stealing, plus sending innocent people to prison. Also kidnappings. So they are not believable at all. Pistone lied about a bounty on his head, he's a proven liar.

Jace,

Firstly I want to apologise publicly for losing my temper and being terse with you before my suspension.

Secondly could you provide instances for what you speak of because I am sincerely interested in learning more about it? Who are these FBI agents you speak of and what kidnappings do you refer to?

Personally I wouldn't label FBI agents like that but that's your prerogative and you are definitely entitled to it. There are outliers in every profession, whether it's the clergy, or the FBI, or charity organisations.

But over 99% of FBI agents do their jobs conscientiously.

The mafia, by definition, are criminals who contribute the sum total of zero to society, and even when they go "legitimate" it's with proceeds from crime and/or a front for criminal endeavours.

Thank you, and again, I reiterate my apologies for the way I spoke to you in the past. I hope we can move forward.

I have the utmost respect for what Pistone did when he was infiltrating the mob. I do think he kind of exaggerates the danger he is currently in though. The mob does not usually harm cops, most of those guys are dead or on jail and it's been several decades. That being said, the man had balls to go undercover around people who were more than capable of killing.

Why wouldn't he exaggerate it, though? It's his gimmick. He makes dough from it and he's entitled to. Look at it as a wink and nod. As you say, he had brass balls to do what he did. He did a commendable job at washing a little scum off the streets and he didn't do it behind a desk, he was on the frontline, putting his ass on the line for people like you and me.

Fine with me.