I got Angelo mixed up with Joe N. Gallo.



Castellano already picked Thomas Gambino and Thomas Bilotti for the positions. He should have picked James Failla who had served as an acting underboss while Dellacroce was locked up before the big meet between Paul and him.
The transcripts I have read shows only Gallo talking about bribery using Joe Piney and some talk about money on the streets and kickbacks from the garment district, most of what he says is coded, but when he tells Paul how much he will receive he doesn't code the amount that comes over a million throughout the meetings. The only commission talk with Gallo is Rusty in the Bonanno family wanting a seat on the commission, a couple of beefs in the family that Big Paul will have to decide, Tony Ducks guy has a problem with a proposed member in one of the families, and Salerno making a request that the proposed membership lists includes the nicknames of the prospect.

@Bronx you sure Marino always listened to his uncle? Cause Carmine was having problems with Castellano wanting a big share, and was not happy with Castellano not attending Dellacroce funeral, but he was in agreement with the Chin that somebody had to pay for the hit on Paul, so why not suggest his nephew take part in the disposal of John Gotti and try for an administration position.

What r u talking about w the angelo comment? Ruggerio?
...he allways wanted paul hit. Had nothing to do w the admin choices.... Lol he knew paul was specifically gunning for him!!

And as far as Bilotti goes.... I am pretty sure that he waa NOT going to be taking a admin spot once paul was imprisoned.... I think bilotti was like a temporary spot.... He was a bulldog no brains.

And Piney wanted to retire but when dellacroce died he was asked to help with admin roles. As well as after paul died, he was forced to step up for a small time. Didnt want it tho.

Other families believed he wa a gonna flip. Would deff been interesting if he did.... But the whole demeo case had him buried without even bringing up the commision case!

think hes rite maybe paul made marino a capo after nino was locked up. he got like a 10 yr bid probaly rite after demo was killed for shooting the cop but then he apeealed . he was on the street probaly on the appeal in dec 1985 when paul got hit.anyway the gotti movie is leaked all over the internet in hd i seen it on fmovies just google click whatever pops up first and know youll have to x out about 5 pops up before the movie starts. i feel asleep 10 min in. never should have let any of thoe gotti sons have screen copys they sold that shit quick to the bootleggers now that film will not recoup a cent. john alites selling gotti dvds down time sq 5bucks

Joe Piney did not want to retire until the judge gave him a choice. Gotti told Armone to refuse the deal, and shorty did and he died in prison. If Armone wanted to retire, then John and Frank would never have feeled him out and then approach him for the Castellano hit, and him informing Gallo of the plot and those two appeasing the old schoolers in the family. Joe Armone and Joe N. Gallo went down for them bribing officials to get Gallo's kid transferred from a state prison to a federal prison in the early 1980's. Where did you hear Armone wanted to retire after Dellacroce died? When Dellacroce died and Paul refused to attend, that pissed off members in the family and Armone was more eager to help the Fist. Piney was Joe Gallo right hand man and therefore in a position of power.

carmine was a non factor under paul, he was taken down and not killed for banging a made guys daughter..but his nephews sought his guidance, carmine was very close to westside guys.i did not hear paul was shaking him down? not saying it did not happen ,but i never heard that before. frank d would have been a great choice for underboss, but that still would not have fulfilled gottis goals,

al darco books has a cool after story part. after a trial in the 90tys the feds drove him around brooklyn and he mentions he seen carmine docs rolls royce still parked in front of his house. just thought it was a cool line in his book. wasnt he called the wizard of wall street. the pics i seen of him he looked the ladies man. he was a pioneer in the fraud claims, finicial crime shit. he was a capo under carlo i think he was broken down like bronx said. even read he had a kid with the made guys daughter.

Everyone in the white collar faction jumped ship and went with the prevailing winds.

Agreed. Not sure why he didnt promote Decicco. He was close to Paul, smart, and well respected. Bad move by Paul

I think they had no choice, the other faction was more violent.