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Is Michael Franzese genuinely reformed? #944264
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Is Michael Franzese genuinely reformed, or is his public speaking and his books (and his reformation) another money-making scam from somebody still connected with the life?


"It was all crap, right up to the moment he died" - an investigator's opinion - and epitaph - of John Holmes (Johnny Wadd)

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Re: Is Michael Franzese genuinely reformed? [Re: night_timer] #944276
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It's another method to part fools from their money. The hustle never ends with these guys, even after they rat and are forced to leave the life.

He doesn't strike me as sincere at all, but since he is a sociopath, it is quite simple for him to manipulate others and come across that way.

A lot of these evangelical types have serious skeletons in their closet. Look at Ted Haggard, who is a deeply closeted homosexual.


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Re: Is Michael Franzese genuinely reformed? [Re: Moe_Tilden] #944278
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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
It's another method to part fools from their money. The hustle never ends with these guys, even after they rat and are forced to leave the life.

He doesn't strike me as sincere at all, but since he is a sociopath, it is quite simple for him to manipulate others and come across that way.

A lot of these evangelical types have serious skeletons in their closet. Look at Ted Haggard, who is a deeply closeted homosexual.



Right on Moe he is just using hart strings and god and the mob to make cash and he is doing well .


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Re: Is Michael Franzese genuinely reformed? [Re: night_timer] #944279
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Scammers are gonna scam...


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Re: Is Michael Franzese genuinely reformed? [Re: night_timer] #944281
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yeah, bitch..


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Is it true Mikey has HIV? Or was that just some rumor. I know Scarpa Sr did.

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Did the a search it was the rat Franzese son who has HIV...since 1990 apparently. And knowingly submitted woman to have sex with an HIV+ man....and yet they had no issue using him as a star witness against Sonny.


I hope Sonny lives until 110 and is active to the end.

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Re: Is Michael Franzese genuinely reformed? [Re: WhackWhack] #944289
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Originally Posted by WhackWhack
Is it true Mikey has HIV? Or was that just some rumor. I know Scarpa Sr did.

Edit:

Did the a search it was the rat Franzese son who has HIV...since 1990 apparently. And knowingly submitted woman to have sex with an HIV+ man....and yet they had no issue using him as a star witness against Sonny.


I hope Sonny lives until 110 and is active to the end.


No correlation between the way he was brought up and the way he acted later in life?


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Re: Is Michael Franzese genuinely reformed? [Re: night_timer] #944316
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He spreads GOP propaganda on twitter all day, so clearly he's not reformed. He just left one mob for another. Or, maybe he's just in another racket with the same mob.


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Re: Is Michael Franzese genuinely reformed? [Re: WhackWhack] #944319
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Originally Posted by WhackWhack
Is it true Mikey has HIV? Or was that just some rumor. I know Scarpa Sr did.

Edit:

Did the a search it was the rat Franzese son who has HIV...since 1990 apparently. And knowingly submitted woman to have sex with an HIV+ man....and yet they had no issue using him as a star witness against Sonny.


I hope Sonny lives until 110 and is active to the end.


Is Sonny other son john jr that flipped against the father that have hiv.

Re: Is Michael Franzese genuinely reformed? [Re: night_timer] #944357
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Yeh he was a junkie- and most likely contracted it via dirty syringe

Re: Is Michael Franzese genuinely reformed? [Re: night_timer] #944379
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Franzese used his father's name to get into the mob, then ratted when things got tough. He claims he found God, but only he knows if that is true. He seems to be totally free of any crime involvement, both by choice and by no one from the mob having anything to do with him.

Re: Is Michael Franzese genuinely reformed? [Re: night_timer] #944392
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i think he hid millions back before he turned himself in to do the 10yrs what 1986. he was lucky and smart to bumped into the gas racket in nyc and state before the rest of the wolves. i wonder how he hid all his wealth from the persicos in 1980 but i forget when the gas money really started rolling in. maybe carmine was locked up for parole his brother allie was hiding in ct. i mean if whitey bulger had 800k hidden in a wall in 2011 from 1994ish. he was seeing the colombo familys gas tax cheat racket for what did michael have it 5 7 yrs ? he said a million a week profit thats insane even if it was 100k a week back then wow he must have buried alot of it. he was young and smart and knew he didnt want to go to jail again

Re: Is Michael Franzese genuinely reformed? [Re: night_timer] #944393
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its funny you cant watch that movie michael produced the won with his wife youtube

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no hes just retired and knows noone in his old life would still do work withhim even his family.

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Re: Is Michael Franzese genuinely reformed? [Re: night_timer] #944398
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Originally Posted by night_timer
Is Michael Franzese genuinely reformed, or is his public speaking and his books (and his reformation) another money-making scam from somebody still connected with the life?


No way.In a meeting with a old colombo wiseguys that wanted to kill him for take his bussiness he barely survived and his father didn't help his own son. So Michael understood that was better to escape from the sinking boat. Maybe he wrote some books because mob and cristianity help to sell books but I dont think that Michael would risk his life and reputation for a scam.

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I'm getting confused here. Who is HIV Positive? Michael Franzese or a relative of his?


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Originally Posted by night_timer
I'm getting confused here. Who is HIV Positive? Michael Franzese or a relative of his?


The brother of Michael have the AIDS, his name is john jr and was a colombo associate but flipped and testimonied against his father.

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Originally Posted by jace
Franzese used his father's name to get into the mob, then ratted when things got tough. He claims he found God, but only he knows if that is true. He seems to be totally free of any crime involvement, both by choice and by no one from the mob having anything to do with him.
...He made Tons of money for the mob..The gas scam was a money tree..He's smart. Probably has a lot left over. Just like John jr..Play the game and if your smart know when to get out..

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Stealing in the name of the lord!

Re: Is Michael Franzese genuinely reformed? [Re: night_timer] #944635
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When Michael has to figure out how much of the offering collection to give to the lord vs keep he has a unique system. After church he gathers all the money and throws it in the air. Whatever god catches, he can keep.

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Re: Is Michael Franzese genuinely reformed? [Re: night_timer] #945376
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Is Michael a sociopath or just a con artist that he makes people believe?

and does anyone know if he killed anybody or murders he heavily participated in

Re: Is Michael Franzese genuinely reformed? [Re: night_timer] #945461
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He came to a church near where I live in uk last year. Was busy and missed it though. It’s all BS I reckon but he’s been doing it so long he probably believes it lol.

Got his autobiography the main one and it feels like he leaves a lot of mob stuff out. I like the way that when he was inside loads of random Mexicans kept coming up to him asking how to get made haha. He clearly kept a huge amount of dough look at his mansion in LA or wherever it is. You don’t get that from church touring.

He did flip though just not on LCN. All this about he begged for his life is BS. He flipped, served the usual 5 years or something and moved far away from NY. This was 90s and weren’t worth JR even trying to whack him. And he didn’t flip on LCN why would they care at the end of the day.

In terms of hits from what I’ve read he was involved in that champagne guys hit. They blamed him for Franzese sister overdosing as he was seeing her at the time on the side. Bad move to do that clearly what was he thinking. Mike wasn’t on the heavy side though and was a yuppie movie producer gas scam earner type. His dad done enough work for him to ride the wave

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In the autobiography he advises that he was going to be a doctor and changed his mind in honour of his dad who was railroaded by the feds on that fake robbery charge that he’s been battling all his life via parole probation violations. (Similar to what meek mill will be going through for many years to come with the longstanding parole violation crap. Least his original charge was real!)

He also describes growing up and how some of the cops would come up to him as a kid swearing at him and calling his dad an animal etc. Also describes how both his mum and dad got jealous of his success at one point which I found interesting. Decent book actually might have to read it again

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Maybe Sonny wasn't a very good dad?

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Originally Posted by streetbossliborio
He also describes growing up and how some of the cops would come up to him as a kid swearing at him and calling his dad an animal etc. Also describes how both his mum and dad got jealous of his success at one point which I found interesting. Decent book actually might have to read it again


I remember it quite well. He was playing ball with a friend and he went to recover the missing ball, a cop stood on the ball and flashed his gun saying to Mike "this is for your old man one day" and another incident he tells alot when a Nassau County cop said something to his father while the whole family were at a restaurant so Sonny got up and pointed a gun at him lol, then before the incident the same cop was bumping his car into the back end of Sonny's car

from what I read he seemed like a good father and Mike has alot of admiration and respect for Sonny so it's not all bad

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From what I remember in the book and from interviews, Sonny Franzese comes across as a good father according to Michael. EXCEPT for when he allegedly didn't stick up for Michael when the Colombo admin were grilling him about holding back money.

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If he hasnt commited a crime since he got out of jail 30 years ago then yes i would say he is reformed

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