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Re: Trump Supporters: [Re: OakAsFan] #943202
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Trump is a Don. Dons evade justice, Dons make up their own rules, Dons run shit. Youre President is a Don, deal with it Oak.

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Like I said, at least our banned troll boy is honest. I imagine others here feel the same way. I believe most Trump supporters would support a Trump dictatorship. Does this mean they don't support democracy and due process? It's hard to say. Maybe they see it as a means to an end. But then again, hasn't every dictatorship throughout history? The parallels between modern day Trump supporters and Hitler supporters in 1930's Germany are beginning to surface.


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Oak, cmon with the name calling. Your parents might hear you typing in the basement.

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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Originally Posted by JCrusher
I always try to be respectful


No you don't. You didn't even answer the question. You tried to change the question into something you felt more comfortable answering. You're making the point that you would support Trump in the event he evaded justice or impeachment if you felt the indictment or impeachments were unjustified. So, your answer is basically yes. You would support a Trump dictatorship. I don't know why you were so afraid to just say that. Right Pride did, under one of his many aliases. Maybe some of you just want to believe you still support democracy and due process even though you would forego those beliefs to stand by Trump.


well you are definetly proving my point about liberals. Just trying to bait people then making shit about them just because you hate Trump.



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Originally Posted by Gallinari
Oak, cmon with the name calling. Your parents might hear you typing in the basement.

For once I agree with you inmate

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Gallinari (or The_Rooster) is gone, again.

Good hopefully that’s the last time he surfaces

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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
No point in wasting any more of your own time or mine.



Your 50 non-answers are noted. When someone starts a political thread, they just kind of take what replies they get. If someone starts a thread without significant content, it's really not expected that you'll be able to convince that person out of self-imposed darkness. You actually respond for others to consider, perhaps much later.

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Does this mean they don't support democracy and due process? It's hard to say. Maybe they see it as a means to an end.


You're confusing process with due process. Probably 100 million people have been murdered by their governments in the last 100 years. The great majority of them probably received legal process - an actual piece of paper authorizing arrest, some sort of disposition by an official, perhaps a ratification of the killings after they occurred. All on the record, all of it "legal" on paper, and all a sham.

Due process requires more, it's sometimes said that what's required is "fair play and substantial justice." You can't hand someone a blank piece of paper. It has to invoke a law. The law itself has to have been enacted in a legal way. And the law has to be interpreted in a reasonable manner. You can't know if these conditions have been satisfied unless you know the facts of the case to see if the law is applicable.

Again, the question being presented here is really a hypothetical: "Would you support a person who's had some charge filed against them by some government entity?" Absent a detailed scenario, I don't think there's much interesting in the question, but it does seem like anyone who would answer that question with a flat "No" lies outside of the traditions described in the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, and the Gettysburg Address, in that they think the government owns the people, instead of vice versa.


"All of these men were good listeners; patient men."
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Originally Posted by mustachepete
Originally Posted by OakAsFan
No point in wasting any more of your own time or mine.



Your 50 non-answers are noted. When someone starts a political thread, they just kind of take what replies they get. If someone starts a thread without significant content, it's really not expected that you'll be able to convince that person out of self-imposed darkness. You actually respond for others to consider, perhaps much later.

Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Does this mean they don't support democracy and due process? It's hard to say. Maybe they see it as a means to an end.


You're confusing process with due process. Probably 100 million people have been murdered by their governments in the last 100 years. The great majority of them probably received legal process - an actual piece of paper authorizing arrest, some sort of disposition by an official, perhaps a ratification of the killings after they occurred. All on the record, all of it "legal" on paper, and all a sham.

Due process requires more, it's sometimes said that what's required is "fair play and substantial justice." You can't hand someone a blank piece of paper. It has to invoke a law. The law itself has to have been enacted in a legal way. And the law has to be interpreted in a reasonable manner. You can't know if these conditions have been satisfied unless you know the facts of the case to see if the law is applicable.

Again, the question being presented here is really a hypothetical: "Would you support a person who's had some charge filed against them by some government entity?" Absent a detailed scenario, I don't think there's much interesting in the question, but it does seem like anyone who would answer that question with a flat "No" lies outside of the traditions described in the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, and the Gettysburg Address, in that they think the government owns the people, instead of vice versa.

agreed. His question was hypothetical. His main objective was to try and trash Trump and republicans by assuming we want a dictatorship. Classic liberal move

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Well trump supporters/republicans blindly follow trump

The man is a dictator and possibly a treasonous traitor

No one seems to care because he shouts MAGA

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Originally Posted by cookcounty
@jcrusher

Well trump supporters/republicans blindly follow trump

The man is a dictator and possibly a treasonous traitor

No one seems to care because he shouts MAGA

Where is the proof? Liberals say the same programmed garbage yet give no facts to back up their claims

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Originally Posted by JCrusher
Originally Posted by cookcounty
@jcrusher

Well trump supporters/republicans blindly follow trump

The man is a dictator and possibly a treasonous traitor

No one seems to care because he shouts MAGA

Where is the proof? Liberals say the same programmed garbage yet give no facts to back up their claims



Conservatives whole argument is holding onto americas core values from the 1800s. So which one of us is brainwashed?

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Originally Posted by cookcounty
Originally Posted by JCrusher
Originally Posted by cookcounty
@jcrusher

Well trump supporters/republicans blindly follow trump

The man is a dictator and possibly a treasonous traitor

No one seems to care because he shouts MAGA

Where is the proof? Liberals say the same programmed garbage yet give no facts to back up their claims



Conservatives whole argument is holding onto americas core values from the 1800s. So which one of us is brainwashed?

Not really. Plus plenty of republicans will say Trump needs to tone it down a bit and even when Obama was president they didnt spew venom toward him...even though he really didnt do a damn thing lol. Liberals on the other hand say the same 4 or 5 things and give no legit reason or fact to back it up.

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Originally Posted by mustachepete
You're confusing process with due process. Probably 100 million people have been murdered by their governments in the last 100 years. The great majority of them probably received legal process - an actual piece of paper authorizing arrest, some sort of disposition by an official, perhaps a ratification of the killings after they occurred. All on the record, all of it "legal" on paper, and all a sham.

Due process requires more, it's sometimes said that what's required is "fair play and substantial justice." You can't hand someone a blank piece of paper. It has to invoke a law. The law itself has to have been enacted in a legal way. And the law has to be interpreted in a reasonable manner. You can't know if these conditions have been satisfied unless you know the facts of the case to see if the law is applicable.

Again, the question being presented here is really a hypothetical: "Would you support a person who's had some charge filed against them by some government entity?" Absent a detailed scenario, I don't think there's much interesting in the question, but it does seem like anyone who would answer that question with a flat "No" lies outside of the traditions described in the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, and the Gettysburg Address, in that they think the government owns the people, instead of vice versa.


You could have saved a lot of time by just saying yes, or that you would support him if you felt the indictment or impeachment were unjust. Same passive-aggressive "yes" answer as JCrusher.


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Originally Posted by JCrusher
. His main objective was to try and trash Trump and republicans by assuming we want a dictatorship.


You've both intimated that you would support a Trump dictatorship if you felt an indictment or impeachment were unjust.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Long Live The Rooster.

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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Originally Posted by JCrusher
. His main objective was to try and trash Trump and republicans by assuming we want a dictatorship.


You've both intimated that you would support a Trump dictatorship if you felt an indictment or impeachment were unjust.



Trump supporters love hearing MAGA

They can careless what he does as long as he says MAGA

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Agreed. They are all oblivious to what hes really doing to the country.

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Originally Posted by cookcounty
@jcrusher

Well trump supporters/republicans blindly follow trump

The man is a dictator and possibly a treasonous traitor

No one seems to care because he shouts MAGA


You support the party of the KKK.

You think the Democrats had any care for the interests of minorities until they discovered out how to exploit them for votes.

A history of deep seeded racism.

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They'll also go out of their way to keep them down and reliant.

This is why practically every crime ridden shithole city in the States have a majority Dem council.

It's a vicious circle of welfare and broken homes.

I say pull them up by the bootstaps, create employment, encourage personal responsibility and good work ethic.

The world doesn't owe any of us a thing. We make our own lives.

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I was in a college in Ireland on business recently. Ireland recently held a vote on repealing abortion. The Yes side, in favor of repealing abortion, had posters plastered all over the college. I saw no paraphernalia from the No side, who were against abortion.

I thought places of learning were supposed to encourage critical thinking, and individuality, but it appears that the hive mind mentality is in full effect there, just as it is in America.

God forbid a person thinks about race and social issues objectively and come to their own conclusions.

Young people just want to be like other young people. They're not going to think individually about certain issues if they risk becoming pariahs among their peers.

So, blanket conformity is the name of the game. And, if they do feel a certain way about a hot button issue, which doesn't jive with their peers, they're not going to shout it from the rooftops.

Thus, the silent voter.

I couldn't help but notice that a lot of the neckbeards campaigning to repeal abortion in Ireland looked like they were doing it to try and get chicks LOL.

Kinda like liberal neckbeards in America who preach racial equality, yet would shit a brick if a black family moved into their white, upper class neighborhood in the suburbs.


In my thoughts, I use the technique of positive visualization.
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Originally Posted by sbhc
Originally Posted by cookcounty
@jcrusher

Well trump supporters/republicans blindly follow trump

The man is a dictator and possibly a treasonous traitor

No one seems to care because he shouts MAGA


You support the party of the KKK.

You think the Democrats had any care for the interests of minorities until they discovered out how to exploit them for votes.

A history of deep seeded racism.




So republicans are upstanding citizens and democrats are racist? Give me a break, trump supporters are damm near all junior klan members

The kkk all wear maga hats

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Originally Posted by sbhc
This is why practically every crime ridden shithole city in the States have a majority Dem council.


You mean the cities you can't afford to live in.


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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Originally Posted by sbhc
This is why practically every crime ridden shithole city in the States have a majority Dem council.


You mean the cities you can't afford to live in.

Don't tell me you're an elitist Oak? I thought the Dems stood for the working man.

I'm not American anyway. Although I have great admiration for your President and the Republican Party. We're all big fans over here.

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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
I was in a college in Ireland on business recently. Ireland recently held a vote on repealing abortion. The Yes side, in favor of repealing abortion, had posters plastered all over the college. I saw no paraphernalia from the No side, who were against abortion.

I thought places of learning were supposed to encourage critical thinking, and individuality, but it appears that the hive mind mentality is in full effect there, just as it is in America.

God forbid a person thinks about race and social issues objectively and come to their own conclusions.

Young people just want to be like other young people. They're not going to think individually about certain issues if they risk becoming pariahs among their peers.

So, blanket conformity is the name of the game. And, if they do feel a certain way about a hot button issue, which doesn't jive with their peers, they're not going to shout it from the rooftops.

Thus, the silent voter.

I couldn't help but notice that a lot of the neckbeards campaigning to repeal abortion in Ireland looked like they were doing it to try and get chicks LOL.

Kinda like liberal neckbeards in America who preach racial equality, yet would shit a brick if a black family moved into their white, upper class neighborhood in the suburbs.


They don't encourage diversity of thought anymore, they teach groupthink and conformity. Step out of line in one of these colleges and you'll be publicly shamed, ostracised, forced to repent.

They scenes of red faced ugly Irish fems celebrating in the streets at the legalisation of abortion was both classless and downright scary. You'd have to wonder about the moral makeup of some of these people.

I was shocked at how quickly this Amercanised regressive leftist BS took hold in Ireland.

We seem to follow every fad that Britain and the US churn out. Pathetic country of sheep.

Left one empire to join another.

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Nice, a President with Balls.

Thats what we need.


Be Loyal, Be Loving, Be Quiet.
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Originally Posted by sbhc
Don't tell me you're an elitist Oak? I thought the Dems stood for the working man.


I stand for the working man, and I'm elitist. I'm multi-talented.

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I'm not American anyway. Although I have great admiration for your President and the Republican Party. We're all big fans over here.


Russia?


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Originally Posted by sbhc
They don't encourage diversity of thought anymore, they teach groupthink and conformity. Step out of line in one of these colleges and you'll be publicly shamed, ostracised, forced to repent.

They scenes of red faced ugly Irish fems celebrating in the streets at the legalisation of abortion was both classless and downright scary. You'd have to wonder about the moral makeup of some of these people.

I was shocked at how quickly this Amercanised regressive leftist BS took hold in Ireland.

We seem to follow every fad that Britain and the US churn out. Pathetic country of sheep.

Left one empire to join another.


Times were better when white male privilege was under no threat at all, right?


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Originally Posted by DuesPaid
Nice, a President with Balls.

Thats what we need.



A dictatorship?


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