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The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria #937193
04/14/18 01:33 AM
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Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria [Re: DE NIRO] #937195
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What end is near? I think Syria was stupid to use chemical weapons. They could have done more damage just using conventional weapons. What’s there plan on using them?

Is Russia going to nuke us for bombing a small part of Syria. I think Russians in general are stupid people, but they are not that stupid.

Remember when the media was saying the Russians owned Trump. Does the media still think that?

I don’t think we have to bend over and kiss our asses goodbye over this.


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Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria [Re: DE NIRO] #937198
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Is there any evidence the Syrian regime actually carried out the chemical weapons attack? Jaish al Islam, the Islamist group in control of Douma at the time of the alleged gas attack, had itself been accused of using gas against Kurdish fighters in 2016 . This is briefly mentioned quite a long way down this story:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/one-kurdish-neighborhood-in-the-crossfire

The Syrian regime had basically won the conflict, it doesn't make sense that they would launch a chemical attack in the full knowledge that it would no doubt draw in western countries. Now, on the other hand, it might make sense to launch an attack to draw in western countries if you were the Islamist group losing the conflict.

It all seems very familiar...drawn into a conflict we're not interested in and dropping bombs again without any evidence. We're assured the plan is not regime change, however, it seems the US and U.K. are determined not to have Assad in control...his links with Iran have to many implications...

Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria [Re: DE NIRO] #937200
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The three intelligence agencies from France, England and US. Know more then you know or I know. So you can say they had the proof or they would not have done this.


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Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria [Re: DE NIRO] #937207
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I'm sure they do know more than us, however, we have no idea what level of knowledge they have, nor does (more importantly) the rest of the international community.

We went to war a few years back on the basis of "evidence" of wmd's in Iraq and the so called ability the country had to strike mainland Europe within 45 mins...it was all complete bullshit and is widely acknowledged as being so. Literally millions marched on the streets against it, but we still invaded without any long term strategic thinking. I worry this is heading the same way. The US defence secretary is saying this is a one off strike, the British Prime Minister is saying they may continue depending on any more evidence found....we all know to our cost that confusion and spurious evidence isn't the best pretext to begin bombing countries and creating a potentially disastrous conflict.

Would you be comfortable betting your house on this evidence being entirely accurate? If yes, tell me why, if not, why? Why should we be risking thousands, if not far more, lives on this? At the moment, it's apparently targeted strikes...who knows how accurate they'll be, or what repercussions it'll bring.

It's strange, I remember trump lambasting US foreign policy during the election campaign. He essentially had an isolationist standpoint, repeatedly giving assurances he would not be involving the US in other people's conflicts. Now, a small village in Syria is allegedly attacked and he's dropping bombs on the place within a week? You telling me it's simply because Assad allegedly used a gas attack? (If he in fact did, who knows for sure)

Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria [Re: DE NIRO] #937213
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We went to Iraq because our intelligence said hussain had weapons of mass destruction. Remember before we attacked Iraq the Russians left. Did we check the Russian trucks as they were leaving? No, we did not now where did those trucks go? They went to Syria now you know how the Syrians got their weapons of mass destruction. Those weapons were from ww1. I suppose they were trying to duplicate them.

So my friend Iraq did have weapons of mass destruction but they were from ww1.


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Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria [Re: DE NIRO] #937215
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We developed a laser gun some where in that 1980s or 1990s.

What could that gun do. One man could point the gun at an army of a thousand men. Burn their retinas and blind them. Someone thought that was a weapon of mass destruction and they banned its use.

Tell me what is better killing a thousand or blinding a thousand? But not killing them. A gun like that would scare an approaching army. That could end war as we know it.


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Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria [Re: DE NIRO] #937217
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Maybe for Syria.

Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria [Re: DE NIRO] #937218
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The Russians are stupid Foots? The US has backed out or lost every war the russians were involved in. You got half of Korea, Vietnam kicked us but, bay of pigs Cuba..The fall of communism was for the russian benefit not the worlds or us, its still the same story. I dont know how would you call a man like Putin stupid, or the russians..

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I don’t think Putin is stupid. But I am surrounded by Russians here in Brooklyn. They are definately stupid. A few live right where I live so they have money. But they are still stupid in general.

Ever eat in a Russian Restaurant? They put 8 fat Russians in a table that seats six. They can’t even get their arms up to get the ten courses they serve to those people.

I have Russian in laws they are all they are all jerk offs. One I thought I liked so I gave him a watch I was wearing as a gift because he admired it. It has a Russian history so I told him about it.

Once I had 10 Russians eating in my back yard not relatives. In with them was an under cover Russian cop at that table. I knew him from something else I did not rat him out because he was not investigating me. Plus I respect guys with guts he has a fearless personality. Got to like people like that.


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Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria [Re: DE NIRO] #937221
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50 years since the vietnam war...
the us army grow stronger and better since
usa are the strongest in the world

Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria [Re: MeyerLansky] #937224
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Originally Posted by Footreads
I don’t think Putin is stupid. But I am surrounded by Russians here in Brooklyn. They are definately stupid. A few live right where I live so they have money. But they are still stupid in general.

Ever eat in a Russian Restaurant? They put 8 fat Russians in a table that seats six. They can’t even get their arms up to get the ten courses they serve to those people.

I have Russian in laws they are all they are all jerk offs. One I thought I liked so I gave him a watch I was wearing as a gift because he admired it. It has a Russian history so I told him about it.

Once I had 10 Russians eating in my back yard not relatives. In with them was an under cover Russian cop at that table. I knew him from something else I did not rat him out because he was not investigating me. Plus I respect guys with guts he has a fearless personality. Got to like people like that.


First of all they are mostly jews or ukranians not really russian that settled in Brooklyn late 70s early 80s, so you have to understand the ethnic composure. Second its no secret the the soviet union let all the scum, criminals and prisoners to emigrate to us at that time. If you look it up online you will find...also lots of armenians, georgians and other euro asian ethic scum. Its called Little odesa for christ sake, not little moscow. Odessa is in Ukraine if you dont know. You should read about diffrent nations, knowledge is a wunderfull thing.



Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
50 years since the vietnam war...
the us army grow stronger and better since
usa are the strongest in the world



Yes of course Us army is the best paid thats true, but the problem is the us people living their middle class lives not wanting to go to any war let alone over seas to fight the russ. The russians on the other hand are much more poor and prone to war waiting for all thee time. Its a social thing. No one has ever conqured the russians since the mongols in the 13th century. Napoleon, Carlo V of sweden, Hitler etc. The russians are wild, beast like people that is true but not stupid

Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria [Re: alexandarns] #937226
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100% agree alexandarns

Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria [Re: DE NIRO] #937232
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Trump has his tongue up Putin's ass so we wont war with them

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Originally Posted by cookcounty
Trump has his tongue up Putin's ass so we wont war with them


You wont go to war but your gonns bomb the shit out of Syria. Reminds me when the us and nsto bomb Yugoslavia for 3 months. That mf clinton was gettin his dik sucked by monica and bombing the shit of Yugoslsvia because of Kosovo. He sould burn in hell

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Funny if the people here are not real Russians. Like from the Ukraine are not Russians they sure dig Putkin.

Also street blacks who I use in business on occasion actually like Trump.


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Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria [Re: DE NIRO] #937268
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The French claim they have hard evidence that Asaad used chlorine in that attack, so this wasn't a blind bombing.

As for Russia, they are just flexing as usual just like the midget in North Korea does. This is basically the Cold War Part 2 between us and Russia.

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Originally Posted by alexandarns
The Russians are stupid Foots? The US has backed out or lost every war the russians were involved in. You got half of Korea, Vietnam kicked us but, bay of pigs Cuba..The fall of communism was for the russian benefit not the worlds or us, its still the same story. I dont know how would you call a man like Putin stupid, or the russians..


We won WWII with the Russians by the way.

And for the Bay of Pigs all we did was supply Cubans who defected with guns and planes. Our military did not participate.

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Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Originally Posted by alexandarns
The Russians are stupid Foots? The US has backed out or lost every war the russians were involved in. You got half of Korea, Vietnam kicked us but, bay of pigs Cuba..The fall of communism was for the russian benefit not the worlds or us, its still the same story. I dont know how would you call a man like Putin stupid, or the russians..


We won WWII with the Russians by the way.

And for the Bay of Pigs all we did was supply Cubans who defected with guns and planes. Our military did not participate.



Of course but it was your idea and you coused the slaugter of some poor cubans. Great job by the way

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Originally Posted by alexandarns


No one has ever conqured the russians since the mongols in the 13th century. Napoleon, Carlo V of sweden, Hitler etc.


Japanese, 1904.


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Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria [Re: DE NIRO] #937279
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The Russians and the other allies would not have won ww2 if it weren't for the U.S.

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Originally Posted by blueracing347
The Russians and the other allies would not have won ww2 if it weren't for the U.S.


We helped to supply England, Russia, and other countries against Nazi Germany when we were not at war.


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We can all sleep better knowing that Assad will go back to butchering innocent civilians using conventional weapons, and not chemical ones.


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We did help win WW2 because of our manufacturing superiority. We made things then.

Now we don’t make anything. Trump is trying to bring back manufacturing jobs to help the middle class and for ourselves if we ever need to produce things if we have have a problem. We would need to make our own things if we our attacked.
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Yes, Helen your right we don’t care if another countries people are killed by conventional weapons just don’t use chemical weapons on them.

Assad reminds me of a guy name Tommy I knew as a kid. He was not a tough guy in life but he had a friend named Ralphie Lanza. Let’s rename Lanza Russia. People were afraid of Lanza Russia.

So if you fucked with Assaid/Tommy he would call Ralphie Russia to kick your ass. Iran is also like Tommy.

What Syria and Iran don’t get is one day. Ralphie/Russia will turn on them. Then both those places are fucked.


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One day someone caught Tommy alone and put a car jack into his head. He lived but had a plate in his head. After that Tommy’s whole personality changed he became a nice guy.

Ralphie is not around any more.


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The war on the eastern front was the most brutal in ww2. Stalin never expected hitler to actually invade the soviet union. Hitler never expected to have such a difficult time conquering russia. At first the germans gained alot of ground rather quickly and millions of russians were killed. Stalin was equally as brutal, he even ordered his own soldiers to be shot if they retreated and called them traitors if they were captured. Russian woman even fought on the front lines and were tough as fuckin nails. What ultimately prevented the germans from victory was the brutal russian winter.

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Originally Posted by Belmont
The war on the eastern front was the most brutal in ww2. Stalin never expected hitler to actually invade the soviet union. Hitler never expected to have such a difficult time conquering russia. At first the germans gained alot of ground rather quickly and millions of russians were killed. Stalin was equally as brutal, he even ordered his own soldiers to be shot if they retreated and called them traitors if they were captured. Russian woman even fought on the front lines and were tough as fuckin nails. What ultimately prevented the germans from victory was the brutal russian winter.


That's right Belmont. It was not until the russians stsrted fighting off the germans that the us joined the war In 1942. The war has been going on since 1939. And finaly it was the soviets that entered berlin and put the red flag on the parlament of nazi germany not the us..there is a lot of books and info out there that say the us let the japanese bomb pearl harbor and never stoped so they can join the war on the winning side. The same goes for 9.11.

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Originally Posted by alexandarns
And finaly it was the soviets that entered berlin and put the red flag on the parlament of nazi germany not the us...


Patton's 3rd Army could have done that a week earlier but a political decision was made by U.S. leaders to ALLOW the Soviet Union the honor of capturing Berlin.


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Yep. The partitioning of the Reich for the war's end had been decided at Yalta and agreed upon by the triple alliance. If the western allies had taken Berlin they would have risked lives for territory that was purely symbolic and had been ceded to the USSR and would have to be handed over anyway.


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"We are locked and loaded!" What is the point of having our weapons if we're not going to use them? 100+ missles striking simultaneously. Right on SC, we let the Russians have Berlin. The Russians had two significant reasons for signing the non aggression act with the Nazis. 1. They were not prepared to take on the Reich after watching them blitz through Poland. 2. They wanted a chunk of Poland. As the war was coming to an end, the ussr had no intentions kid giving back any territory, especially Poland. Roosevelt declared war on the Japs, Hitler declared war on the U.S. That was the best thing for the brits, communists, and the rest.

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