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Re: Philly Indictments [Re: Biggie] #934969
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Originally Posted by Biggie
are you saying uncle joe didnt push back? not sure if i read that right?..sadly mistaken if you are though


Said never know how much leadway and did not come off as pushing back. In fact there is or will be some things that they were all in contact during that time .

Could have been working with Luke’s or sharing racket or just getting to know the ruling panel , Joe knew Jr as a boy and a adult and don’t think he had anything against his father after all he just fell in-line when he got out.

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Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934970
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Im shocked that Previte died, he was such a beacon of health. He worked out religiously, ate right, took his vitamins, and saw the doctor every six months. I know Previte moved to Paris for a while to persue a modeling career after he left the mob. His sculpted face and chisseled body was supposed to make him a lot of money. Unfortunate that he dropped dead for no reason. I know his modeling agency in Paris was heart broken.
Trust me, i was just as shocked as everyone else when this fitness fanatic passed away.

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Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934973
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aces, you forget his brief stint as a tri athlete....serp, we are online, and sometimes what we all type reads differently, wasnt insulting, was asking what it is you meant...ill say this, from the get, they were all over sal p, saying his paperwork from prior case suggests something a little funny, so..there was no recognition so to speak..so..i politefully disagree, no share, no getting along..it was pretty blunt..

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934975
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I know Uncle Joe let a Genovese book and wire room setup in philly and he just gets a cut of it. Now, I don't know if he had a choice in the matter or not, but I do know that Genovese guys operate and partner with Uncle Joe and Philly Family on right in South Philly so not necessarily uncommon. Was even more so in the 80s with Nicky when he'd let the other families operate in South Jersey, nick just had to be kept aware of what was going on and maybe got a small piece of it most of the time.

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #934976
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that is very accurate, phl...but..genovese aint nicky kid and a potential rat pelullo..apples to tomatoes..but yes, things arent uncommon...diff circumstance

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: Biggie] #934996
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Would anybody here happen to know from which villages in Calabria the Scarfo's and Piccolo's originate?

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #935017
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im surprised the luchese family would transfer anyone in there familly they inducted it makes them look weak. the sitdown between uncle joe and the gambinos was something to do about the luchese getting on the turf but why wouldnt the luchese family be at the sitdown. im guessing there must have been a meeting of the genovese and gambinos to settle the beef between the luchese and philly shit. this is the first time ive heard soldiers being transferd since the 60tys when the bosses at commission meeting would release guy to other familys like ray patriarca giving nick bianco to the colombo family to help afetr the gallo war.

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: Sonny_from_Peoria] #935025
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Originally Posted by Sonny_from_Peoria
I think some guys need to be made an example out of especially Tony Arillotta, John Alite, Ron Previte, Joe Bonelli, Dom Cicale... To name a few I could prolly think of a few more somebody or something needs to happen so these stop seeing the avenue of flipping and then getting to live back on the street making these stupid ass appearances and getting paid to write a book.... Me personally I would rather read a book from from a stand up guy like Frank Cullotta rather then these f'cks walking around bad mouthing everybody that shitted on them therefore they ran to the Feds...a lot of people get shitted on this lifestyle whether Assoc to Soldato or Soldato to Capo...you got shitted on for a reason but not everybody runs and rats.

You almost had me going... Frank Cullotta????? Hahahahahah

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Somewhat related but seems the Pellulo's (Leonard, Arthur and his son Sal) have been associated with both Scarfo Sr and Scarfo Jr going way back. Arthur is still a boxing promoter in Philly. Leonard pulled the 'takeover' scheme back in 1986, long before Salvatore and Jr. did it in the FirstTrust takeover. Phil Leonetti testified at trials for both Leonard and Arthur in the late 80s and 90s.

https://law.justia.com/cases/new-jersey/appellate-division-published/1996/a3200-95-opn.html

http://articles.latimes.com/1990-12-09/business/fi-8690_1_transcon-lines/2

http://www.state.nj.us/sci/pdf/OCBoxing.pdf (p. 41 in particular) - This is a fascinating read..even details Philly LCN's connections to at the time major promoters like Frank Gelb and Joe Hand.

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #935065
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Sammy the BULlL was transferred from the columbo's to the gambino's in the 70's.
Vinny T.V. tried to transfer an associate Jonny Florida from the columbo's and the columbo's said no and there was real hard feelings after that.

I know there were a couple of others that have slipped.my mind at the moment.

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: Biggie] #935103
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Originally Posted by Biggie
that is very accurate, phl...but..genovese aint nicky kid and a potential rat pelullo..apples to tomatoes..but yes, things arent uncommon...diff circumstance



Nicky's kid yeah, but he was still under the Lucchese flag which at the end of the day doesn't matter who is it's who he's with. I think a ligambi and those guys for the most part didn't care as long as they could make money with you. Like bringing the Stanfa guys back around... remember that quote about Vince Fillipelli... like saying how he was on the wrong side but now he's within Staino... those guys care about money more at end of the day. I bet Joey would take Nicky's Jr's money any day, but Jr knows he shot him so never would concede or Associate with Joey.

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: irishkaos] #935106
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Originally Posted by irishkaos
Somewhat related but seems the Pellulo's (Leonard, Arthur and his son Sal) have been associated with both Scarfo Sr and Scarfo Jr going way back. Arthur is still a boxing promoter in Philly. Leonard pulled the 'takeover' scheme back in 1986, long before Salvatore and Jr. did it in the FirstTrust takeover. Phil Leonetti testified at trials for both Leonard and Arthur in the late 80s and 90s.

https://law.justia.com/cases/new-jersey/appellate-division-published/1996/a3200-95-opn.html

http://articles.latimes.com/1990-12-09/business/fi-8690_1_transcon-lines/2

http://www.state.nj.us/sci/pdf/OCBoxing.pdf (p. 41 in particular) - This is a fascinating read..even details Philly LCN's connections to at the time major promoters like Frank Gelb and Joe Hand.



Pellulo’s were used and always kept at arms length but Jr. made a mistake letting Sal have reign because everyone knows they can not stop running there mouth and it proved to be one of the major downfalls.

The boxing report sure brought back some old names and the Limousine businesses was another before casinos had there own full fleet , hole lot of crazy days back there.


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Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #935110
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ok then..thats what ligambi thought....fillipelli..even scoops said some ridiculous things in the late 90s...same family...different circumstance...nicky jr was making a move..but..ok..ligambi said, sure, make your move, do as you please, as long as you throw me a bone...

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@Serp- the Pelullo's mother was Frank Nicoletti's daughter so they've been around for awhile

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Originally Posted by PHL_Mob
@Serp- the Pelullo's mother was Frank Nicoletti's daughter so they've been around for awhile


PHL- Mob it’s amazing how many Philly members and associates are related by blood or marriages my grandfather told me at one point that they wanted blood relatives propose for membership if they fit the mold and it sure looks all these years later it was true .

So many brothers and sons etc. filled the ranks through the years don’t know if it could ever be researched but it seemed like everyone was connected when I was a kid in the 50.s


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Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #935142
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Why was Nicky Jr demoted?

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: BensonHURST] #935161
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Originally Posted by BensonHURST
Why was Nicky Jr demoted?


Never herd this from him nor did I ever have this discussion with him I did try to have it with someone very close to him and I but he shushed me and point off the deck like it was bugged and continued acting paranoid and pulling at his ear and mouth like someone’s listening

I believe it was a couple things at best ,one the Philly thing all along I took major heat here when i first posted it very few believed it.

Not that he was trying to take Philly by force I think he was just flexing being a skipper of a NY crew.

Then that’s another thing being a outsider and taking over a crew like that and Amuso losing his grip more and more or quite possibly Amuso was tired of Nick coming to him about shit .

But whatever it was should be a NY local to be the guy !

Jr. Wanted to go south and have a crew in South Jersey/ Philly and down in Florida I herd that was shot down .

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Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #935162
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there was some good articles wriiten when the perna sons were busted for all types of shit. they had a bug in his car were he told someone the whole story about how he called nicky jr to meet him at some jersey pike rest stop were it seems alot of mafia shit happens and he told jr he wasnt the capo anymore his father was. didnt seem to bother jr he was still make money handover fist. but who really knows. once he was busted down to soldier he must have lost alot of face in there circle. i wonder why the lucheses would release any of the guys under scarfo jr back to the philly famikly.

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are the perna sons out. they got state bids seems like along time ago there probaly all free. matt madonna was picked up on the cars bug after they inducted the sons at there house.

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #935166
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No there both still away.. denied first fo around with hearings

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mayo face is dribbling lil shit on his twitter.

Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #935171
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I did not follow the case
It appears he got 30 years fed for a fraud case

That is crazy

I know guys from Wallstreet that were involved 30MM+ fraud and plead out and received 5-6 years.
That was many years ago
And after Madoff white collar crime today the sentencing is harsher
Even though

Why didn't he plead out?

I know guys that have bodies more than one that got 15 years.

Did they have such a hard on for his father that they did not offer him plea deal?
Or is he just that stupid?

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Originally Posted by BensonHURST

Why didn't he plead out?

I know guys that have bodies more than one that got 15 years.

Did they have such a hard on for his father that they did not offer him plea deal?

Probably. They had a very strong case against him.


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Originally Posted by pmac
mayo face is dribbling lil shit on his twitter.

Multiple Sources: New FBI Mob informant in Philly tried to snare several top Philly wiseguys.Did they fall for it?#fox29

Wiseguys: FBI informant tried to hook them.They claim unsuccessfully. Informant visited Mob clubhouse at 11&Jackson.#fox29

Tale of The Tapes. Philly Wiseguys try to figure out which Mob guys and associates caught on wire by new FBI informant.#fox29

FBI looking for more cooperators in ongoing Mob drug probe. Agents visit target of 2017 shooting plot. No takers yet.#fox29

Court docs say Philly "LCN drug trafficking associate" was "talking openly & disparagingly" about drug guys business.#fox29

Documents also say 2 Mob drug suspects sat outside LCN drug associate home for 3 hours preparing to enter & shoot him.#fox29

FBI document: quotes Mob capo about kicking up $ to Mob higher ups."Whatever I do goes up...I do it on a weekly basis."#fox29

FBI Doc:Kicking cash to Mob big shots.Quotes wiseguy "Yeah that's our business...All this is structure.It 's what you do.#fox29


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Re: Philly Indictments [Re: azguy] #935331
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The rat who wore a wire on the 4 guys that were just arrested, Sammy Piccolo, Servidio, and the other 2 - the rat his name is Anthony Persiano - it's all over the streets and on Mob Talk Radio - even picture of him. It has been confirmed

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Originally Posted by ohmy
The rat who wore a wire on the 4 guys that were just arrested, Sammy Piccolo, Servidio, and the other 2 - the rat his name is Anthony Persiano - it's all over the streets and on Mob Talk Radio - even picture of him. It has been confirmed


Yeah Anthony is from just outside of Atlantic City and has lived and hung around this area for years but was always kept outside of the inner circle until Jr. started a crew of South Jersey and Philly guys.


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now you have to wonder why he was kept on the outside - but somebody made a big mistake to "let him in" he was on parole until 2017 which means he committed crimes while on parole. he spent half of his life in prison - has front businesses - always did - of course he still has the front restoration company - but now has a hand in a restaurant in Northfield NJ - called Valentina's Trattoria - if you read the indictment it mentions meetings in northfield - most likely in that restaurant . Sammy Piccolo was his "brother" nice to turn on your brother. He was and always will be a thief. His father was a theif and taught Anthony how to be one. I am guessing the money he stole from the victims in his restoration company is how he opened that restaurant which is on his wife's name ( and she uses her maiden name) good thinking on her part. I guess she really doesn't want her name dragged thru the mud. Unfortunately for her, she is involved with a loser who cannot make a living honestly. He will never become a decent person. He will always be a criminal. If he is under FBI protection for doing "what is right" I am guessing that he will go away for a while and once he does his time - he will get out and return to a life of crime. this is all he knows. he disgraced his family.

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Originally Posted by ohmy
now you have to wonder why he was kept on the outside - but somebody made a big mistake to "let him in" he was on parole until 2017 which means he committed crimes while on parole. he spent half of his life in prison - has front businesses - always did - of course he still has the front restoration company - but now has a hand in a restaurant in Northfield NJ - called Valentina's Trattoria - if you read the indictment it mentions meetings in northfield - most likely in that restaurant . Sammy Piccolo was his "brother" nice to turn on your brother. He was and always will be a thief. His father was a theif and taught Anthony how to be one. I am guessing the money he stole from the victims in his restoration company is how he opened that restaurant which is on his wife's name ( and she uses her maiden name) good thinking on her part. I guess she really doesn't want her name dragged thru the mud. Unfortunately for her, she is involved with a loser who cannot make a living honestly. He will never become a decent person. He will always be a criminal. If he is under FBI protection for doing "what is right" I am guessing that he will go away for a while and once he does his time - he will get out and return to a life of crime. this is all he knows. he disgraced his family.



You are dead on . The one thing need to know who is the other male that he / wife are in business with in the restaurant ,I am very familiar with the area and the guys over 50 . The other partner should be a Italian guy 60-68 ish ??

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of course there's another "guy" - there's ALWAYS another guy when it comes to AP. No one would ever admit there's any guys involved with this place - but we know the truth. Could be somebody that I have seen him with sitting - but not sure who exactly this person is.
this other guy...may be a regular guy - AP goes after guys with no records so he looks like he's an honest business man, clean, hard working. I can tell you from people I know, he went right back into crime as soon as he walked out of prison over 10 years ago. Never looked back. Now he gets caught and I guess he doesn't want to lose his "good life - good wife" persona - so he sings.

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Originally Posted by ohmy
of course there's another "guy" - there's ALWAYS another guy when it comes to AP. No one would ever admit there's any guys involved with this place - but we know the truth. Could be somebody that I have seen him with sitting - but not sure who exactly this person is.
this other guy...may be a regular guy - AP goes after guys with no records so he looks like he's an honest business man, clean, hard working. I can tell you from people I know, he went right back into crime as soon as he walked out of prison over 10 years ago. Never looked back. Now he gets caught and I guess he doesn't want to lose his "good life - good wife" persona - so he sings.



Yes so he / they sing “ I really don’t get why guys in the life don’t do more to protect them selfs from these rats they are way to laid back about it and are going to prison for decades fucking around with these rats .

And still no real deterrent weather it be a position in the family that a couple guys take that all they do is follow upon any suspicions or anyone having a concern about a rat. They have to come up with something cos they are not dropping these guys after so it’s like whom ever can make most money then rat before the other guy.


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