What do you mean top-heavy? There are still a vast amount of soldiers and capos beneath them.

The Colombo's have a boss, acting boss, street boss, underboss, acting underboss and consigliere all for a family of 85 made members.

amsuo will pick a prison buddy. that guy wi;; pick the new acting bosses. crea and his kid are going to get alot of time. maybe sal avellino comes out of retirement. or that guy bowatt.

Oh, I see. Too many admin members got it. On the streets, however, the Colombos just have a street boss and underboss right?

And a consigliere. Those three have got to report to the three jail birds - Carmine, Allie Boy and Sonny.

3 guys on the street running things plus taking orders from their jail bird bosses. Must get real fucking chaotic at times with the back and forth communications considering it is difficult getting messages in and out of prison I'd imagine.

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If you're talking about Sonny Franzese, he's been out for about a year now and I doubt anyone's getting his permission on things.

As for Carmine and Allie: I don't think Andy Russo or whoever is in charge is going back and forth to either of them. The 2011 bust proves that, in any capacity, Andy Russo and his admin (Sonny Franzese then Ben Castellazzo, and Richie Fusco) were running things independently, settling sitdowns on their own, and inducting guys on their own. For example, a list of proposed members might be passed to Carmine, but a guard or somebody on the inside would have to be behind something like that. And that's a big risk considering Carmine is trying to get paroled. As well as this, Carmine has been behind bars since 1986 - I doubt he has anything to say about the guys recently getting inducted.
For Little Allie Boy it's a bit more uncertain as to how much of a role he plays today but it is confirmed that he was behind Ralph DeLeo being put in as acting boss/street boss. I'd say him and Carmine probably choose whose in charge on the streets and it's up to that person to decide how things are run.

Also, acting underboss Donnie Montemarano is back in LA I think. His role was only interim until the other guys got recently. Andy Russo's got no risk of violating supervised release since those restrictions are over, and Ben Castellazzo has (as of this year) been allowed back into New York (he was barred from travelling to NY for three years following his release from prison).
Tom Farese's short reign as "acting consigliere" ended when he was indicted (even though he was acquitted) since he moved back down to Florida after that.


Any thoughts on who is consig nowadays? Or maybe this topic should go back to being about the Luccheses...

I don't have that much knowledge on the Colombo family guys so I can't even take a guess who is the consig nowadays.

@NickyfromTampa - I can't quote your post for some unknown reason.

Joseph Baudanza looks like the most likely candidate from that list due to his younger age and credentials.

I forgot about Vincent 'Three Fingers' Ricciardo, 72y, a Long Island capo as of 2004, who was the representative and controller of the family's construction interests while Tom Petrizzo was shelved in the 1990s. Ricciardo, also known as 'Vinny Unions,' was viewed highly by John DeRoss and attended meetings with Genovese family constructions bigwigs, including Louis Moscatiello.

With a nickname like "Vinny Unions" I guess he has good influence in the construction unions. I didn't know the Colombos still have their hands in construction.

May be that guy could be the consig because the construction unions are a big money maker.

As far as I remember back in the late 90's Nicky didn't hold much weight at all when Wild Bill was around.

Power Shifts however, he was referred to as the "OLD GUY" and that is going back 20+ years ago.

I cannot see him holding any sort of admin position.

He never made it to CAPO

Also, you guys have to remember, in LCN just like in the rest of the world the power comes from wealth and a lot of these old guys are wealthy.

At their advanced age they are not spear haeding major rackets however, they are getting a piece from the guys on the ground that are using their MONEY, POWER and INFLUENCE...

Yes, he had the Pizzera on 18th and 85th street, with Sunny..

He represented me and my ex partner on a wall street beef we had
We initially won and then when Wild Bill got involved we ended up losing...

He took all the money
Wild Bill had alot of power back then
Thats why they whacked him.

Nicky was ok to deal with.
He was ok to deal with
Didn't have the "YOU KNOW WHO I AM" chip on his shoulder.

Joe Caves never ever thought that guy would flip
He was bad to the bone...

He was a real scumbag

He would run around the neighborhood stabbing people up if someone said they were a rat...
And look what he did

Do you think they have made new guys or are the fading away?

Where do you guys get all of the information that you get to make these lists?

From reading indictments??

WOW amazing you can get all that info and piece it together like that...

Sorry, these guys I know personally and see from time to time if It got back that i was on here giving out personal info like that
They would have every right to be upset with me and these guys could tend to be not so nice if they are pissed at you...

3 Guys listed on a couple of the lists that I have seen on here actually it is 4 now that I think of it.

3 from the family wild bill was associated with and one from the one Casso was

All the info you had I was going to ask you if you were from around here originally

I grew up all around it

Was involved here and there

If you watched JG jr's interview when he is describing the old neighborhood he was spot on

It was all around a club on every other corner

If you lived in Bensonhurst you more than likely were Italian, you more than likely had a big family and your more than likely had an uncle, cousin, brother, in-law, neighbor etc...Someone that was someone... Or worse case you knew someone that knew someone...

It was just part of your every day life

There was a part of that life that was really cool to be around

As I got older I also seen the other part of it, the lives that were ruined, the families that were destroyed, guys getting 10, 20 30 years, good guys getting jammed up ratting and having to move away...
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I personally know three guys that have been made and for whatever the reason are not on these lists that I see on here.

My opinion is that it is not dead, I do not see it ever being dead...
It is no where near what it used to be and never will be anything to close to that...

Alot of these guys are making money from legit businesses now

The social clubs are few and far in between
They are not running around the town like they are Royalty

70th Street and 16th ave
18th ave and 81st Street

Anything still going on down in Tampa?