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Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: Giacomo] #929726
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We're all men here, let's behave with honor


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Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: Giacomo] #929728
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What do you guys think will happen to lucibello now that he's free?


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Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: Giacomo] #929745
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According to my guy he never spoke to the juror. She smiled at him and he smiled back that is all. That same juror supposedly slept through the closing arguments. Also no odds on verdict lol

Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: Giacomo] #929756
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Anything new on the trial?


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Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: Wilson101] #929759
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So I haven’t heard any updates on a verdict. My experience with juries and verdicts is that I am completely unable to predict what a jury is going to do. There are all these theories like, if the jury comes back guilty they won’t look at your client before the verdict is announced.

The one tried and true way to predict a verdict is to watch the bailiff/court officer where they stand when the verdict is being announced. If it’s guilty they will stand directly behind your client ready to snap the cuffs on if they aren’t already in custody.

In terms of mistrials/hung juries I think it’s worse to the defense than to the prosecutor. Reason is that the defenses only real advantage is surprise and on a retrial you already shot your bullets once so the prosecutor can fashion their entire case around your defense.

My bet is that they are hung. My bet is also that the United States retries this case.




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Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: Giacomo] #929760
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no verdict. jury will resume 9:30 tuesday

Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: Giacomo] #929761
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Tuesday have to be the last day, anything longer than that is like your hoping for a guilty plea


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Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: Giacomo] #929773
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Must be getting hammerd all weekend. My 2 pennies. When the just keeps telling tue jury go back and figure it out there more likely they feel hes telling them find him guilty and lets go home.

Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: Giacomo] #929782
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Yea i agree... 3 day weekend to sleep on it and come back w guilty verdict

Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: Giacomo] #929783
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What kind, if any, restrictions does merlino have while on trial? Can he go wherever he chooses in NY or meet with whoever whenever when trial isn't in session?

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Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: Giacomo] #929784
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3 day weekend to go home and google the shit out of all the murders joey and his philly guys beat and all the other shit. Again i have no clue how its gonna end. I think he really wants to beat the racketeering conspiracy charge cause that gets you like 15 20 yrs. If hes found guilty of gambling what 4 yrs. If the health care scam couple yrs.

Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: Giacomo] #929786
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Look I seen some shit in my day and don’t think for one minute that the Government plays fair I have seen them destroy people that are just on the fringe of the life that really did not know anything and when they destroy them they do it publicly and financially and in some cases generationally .

I have seen them do it to blood relatives also same deal and not for doing anything illegal just for standing their ground and once they ruin you it’s not like a newspaper retraction it’s for good.

I have a relative in the Government and trust me they know what they do and they don’t care I seen them ruin people lives over not wanting to lose overtime from a case.

Humans we are all the same somejust act like they are better !


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Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: Giacomo] #929787
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This have to be torture for a jury, looking in each other's face for days knowing that your opinion is not going to chage


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Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: thebigfella] #929789
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Has anyone been going? Would love to know what kind of crowd Joey draws.

Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: Giacomo] #929793
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Police are tougher on the legitimate people who they think know something because those people have the most to lose. They put the fear of God into them. It's a strategy.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: Giacomo] #929800
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I was going to go but never made it


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Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: Giacomo] #929840
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The longer this jury deliberates and can't find a verdict means Joey either gets a hung jury or is found innocent. Juries don't tend to go this long after notes from the judge to keep going only to have a guilty verdict. The longer they deliberate the better Merlino has to feel. Even if the feds re-try this case his odds of beating it go even higher. With Rubeo their star witness, his lawyer will just find more and more ways to go after him and make him look terrible like he did in this case. Rubeo was a horrible star witness and will more than likely NEVER get a conviction of Merlino.

Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: dixiemafia] #929850
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diximafia, is your expectation of a hung jury or acquittal based on statistics? I'm relatively new to this and I'm not criticizing or arguing, just curious. I hope he's acquitted, mostly because I think prosecutors are untrustworthy.

Thanks.

Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: Giacomo] #929855
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I don't like what thier doing to carmine persico, thier messing with him big time. If you prosecute someone fair and square I'm all in, but when you deprive an American citizen of due process in court I think we should all be alarmed, because any American citizen can be at the opposite end of this abuse of power... Carmine persico should be free! We are innocent until proven guilty!


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Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: thebigfella] #929864
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Originally Posted by thebigfella
I don't like what thier doing to carmine persico, thier messing with him big time. If you prosecute someone fair and square I'm all in, but when you deprive an American citizen of due process in court I think we should all be alarmed, because any American citizen can be at the opposite end of this abuse of power... Carmine persico should be free! We are innocent until proven guilty!



It’s horrible and they railroad him and others but he has proof in there own prosecution paperwork that they railroaded him and he will get millions from NY .

This is what it’s about now the cash if they admit it .

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Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: thebigfella] #929873
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Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: thebigfella] #929877
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Originally Posted by thebigfella
I don't like what thier doing to carmine persico, thier messing with him big time. If you prosecute someone fair and square I'm all in, but when you deprive an American citizen of due process in court I think we should all be alarmed, because any American citizen can be at the opposite end of this abuse of power... Carmine persico should be free! We are innocent until proven guilty!


What the hell are you talking about? Do you think at all before you post?

Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: dixiemafia] #929879
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Originally Posted by dixiemafia
The longer this jury deliberates and can't find a verdict means Joey either gets a hung jury or is found innocent. Juries don't tend to go this long after notes from the judge to keep going only to have a guilty verdict. The longer they deliberate the better Merlino has to feel. Even if the feds re-try this case his odds of beating it go even higher. With Rubeo their star witness, his lawyer will just find more and more ways to go after him and make him look terrible like he did in this case. Rubeo was a horrible star witness and will more than likely NEVER get a conviction of Merlino.


They are never going to get a conviction? Come on man, use your head. He has already done major time. He is very high profile and the Feds hate him. He has no sustainable rackets and is always looking for the quick buck. The Feds are never going to stop going after him. He is going to expose himself again and he is going to get indicted again. Eventually the orange guy or Freddy Krueger is going to have to take his spot.

Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: thebigfella] #929880
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Stop trying to be like scrawny Joey. He is a scumbag who comes from scumbag stock. His father was too drunk to be under boss and his uncle was a rat. He and his wife are trash who would bang anything that walks. Typical Philly trash.

Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: Biggie] #929891
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Originally Posted by Biggie
actually not even close to a millennial..but you know what some 'gay shit' is..coming on here and whining like a fuckin junior high jerkoff cuz you lost a few bucks to the local bookie..know anyone who ever did that? hmmm..now..thats some 'gay shit'...on the internet, ahaha asking for advice..my god.....and you call out a guy for thinking you were someone else? pathetic..im sure all your boys will have your back in this...I actually advised you in that, I'm a jerkoff too
Why don't u either shut the fuck up or @ least calm down...u r acting like a jerkoff,,I was alright w/ u but now I'm on a fence..Vegas had a problem,no need 4u to reiterate.


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Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: hoodlum] #929892
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Originally Posted by hoodlum
Originally Posted by Biggie
actually not even close to a millennial..but you know what some 'gay shit' is..coming on here and whining like a fuckin junior high jerkoff cuz you lost a few bucks to the local bookie..know anyone who ever did that? hmmm..now..thats some 'gay shit'...on the internet, ahaha asking for advice..my god.....and you call out a guy for thinking you were someone else? pathetic..im sure all your boys will have your back in this...I actually advised you in that, I'm a jerkoff too
Why don't u either shut the fuck up or @ least calm down...u r acting like a jerkoff,,I was alright w/ u but now I'm on a fence..Vegas had a problem,no need 4u to reiterate.

"Ahaha,asking for advice"..I'll & do have the sources to find u ,,,,,U want a cracked neck fuckhead?


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Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: JC] #929893
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Originally Posted by JC
Stop trying to be like scrawny Joey. He is a scumbag who comes from scumbag stock. His father was too drunk to be under boss and his uncle was a rat. He and his wife are trash who would bang anything that walks. Typical Philly trash.




Why do you take it so personal? Calling him and his wife trash and the other things you say make it sound like you knew him personally and have an issue with him, or are obsessed with him. I thought they had him set up for a conviction but after reading about the witnesses testimony and the conflicting evidence I think he deserves an aquital.

Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: hoodlum] #929894
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Originally Posted by hoodlum
Originally Posted by hoodlum
Originally Posted by Biggie
actually not even close to a millennial..but you know what some 'gay shit' is..coming on here and whining like a fuckin junior high jerkoff cuz you lost a few bucks to the local bookie..know anyone who ever did that? hmmm..now..thats some 'gay shit'...on the internet, ahaha asking for advice..my god.....and you call out a guy for thinking you were someone else? pathetic..im sure all your boys will have your back in this...I actually advised you in that, I'm a jerkoff too
Why don't u either shut the fuck up or @ least calm down...u r acting like a jerkoff,,I was alright w/ u but now I'm on a fence..Vegas had a problem,no need 4u to reiterate.

"Ahaha,asking for advice"..I'll & do have the sources to find u ,,,,,U want a cracked neck fuckhead?

The more I read this ..the more I get Pissed,,"im sure all your boys will have your back on this"...ur fuckin' right I got Vegas ' back on this ....ur pissin' on the wrong tree pal.


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Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: jace] #929897
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Originally Posted by jace
Originally Posted by JC
Stop trying to be like scrawny Joey. He is a scumbag who comes from scumbag stock. His father was too drunk to be under boss and his uncle was a rat. He and his wife are trash who would bang anything that walks. Typical Philly trash.




Why do you take it so personal? Calling him and his wife trash and the other things you say make it sound like you knew him personally and have an issue with him, or are obsessed with him. I thought they had him set up for a conviction but after reading about the witnesses testimony and the conflicting evidence I think he deserves an aquital.

My thoughts exactly.


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Re: Philly-Skinny Joey Trial [Re: Giacomo] #929926
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What do you mean jc? Please be specific, what I posted was self-explanatory


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