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Re: Gus Alex's timeline [Re: Toodoped] #922317
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In addition or another interesting info is that in December, 1962, Gus Alex together with his new paramour, began travelling extensively to Europe. During their travels, the pair always toted their own 16-millimeter movie camera and when the they took a flight back from Paris and landed in Boston, the U.S. customs officers promptly seized their movies. So one of the 50 roles of movies showed the pair in Rome, Italy and according to the IRS and Interpol, during one shot they saw Alex with some mysterious strangers who came to Rome’s Hotel Hassler to confer with him, while they were all being filmed unknowingly by Alex's paramour, who in turn allegedly thought they were some of his friends. Neither of the agencies were able to identify the men who were labeled as individuals of questionable character.

It was the same year when one Outfit associate Allen Rothman, who n turn was the main front man for Alex and Red Larner, became the President of The Vending Corporation of America in Chicago and so with his help, the “Combine” opened up manufacturing plants and offices all around the Midwest, including Kansas City and Milwaukee and also in Europe (England, Spain, Italy), Japan and Australia. In addition, "The Combine" was a group of so-called international U.S. or mainly Chicago mobsters who operated all around the world, and Alex was one of those fellas and allegedly Giancana was the "overseer". They got the name Combine from the feds.


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Hump was the real deal ! Can't help but like some of his mannerisms. He wasn't shy about letting his feelings be known......to anyone. The story goes that he told Accardo he "stood out like s sore thumb in his big mansion." Also indicated that DeStefano would need to be "dealt with," and Giancana was drawing too much attention and was out of town too much. These are comments I have read or been told.

I don't think Alex wanted anything to do with the Operating Boss's job, neither did Battaglia, IMO. Some of these guys recognized the vulnerability of being in the top position while others possibility let their ego get the best of them. By the late 50's early 60's, tenure in the top job was very short.

Marcy makes a good point about the lack of reason among these guys. Boy Scouts they were not.

Re: Gus Alex's timeline [Re: Toodoped] #922363
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Also in FBI FILES on Gus Alex they say he had super human power from a early age so the Outfit guys made him do Weights to make him more powerful . Also it says he could of been a Weight lifter or Heavy Weight Boxer he Also Jog around the city for Miles. So he was Strong as Well and Had Street Smarts lol

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Re: Gus Alex's timeline [Re: rickydelta] #922437
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Originally Posted By: rickydelta
Also in FBI FILES on Gus Alex they say he had super human power from a early age so the Outfit guys made him do Weights to make him more powerful . Also it says he could of been a Weight lifter or Heavy Weight Boxer he Also Jog around the city for Miles. So he was Strong as Well and Had Street Smarts lol


Everything you said is true ricky but his mental state made him vulnerable or in other words more civil since he allegedly couldnt take the pressure. In the world of the Mafia "civil" means more intelegent and weaker than the rest of the murderous members


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Re: Gus Alex's timeline [Re: Toodoped] #922478
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Yeah your right there Toodoped smile I wonder why they never Whack him then must of like him a lot lol . grin

Re: Gus Alex's timeline [Re: rickydelta] #922537
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Originally Posted By: rickydelta
Yeah your right there Toodoped smile I wonder why they never Whack him then must of like him a lot lol . grin


Thats both good question and answer. You see, Alex was the individual who under different alias, "Mike Ryan" i think it was, personally delievered the cash for the bosses to senators and God knows where else, regarding their early release after the Hollywood extortion case. This is the main reason for which I personally believe that Alex was very liked by the top administration. But obviously they always watched him closely, like for example in that previous convo in which the unknown individual tells Humphreys that they previously and personally talked to doctors regarding Alexs mental state without his knowledge which answers my previous statement


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Roger that Bro . Also it made me laugh when i was Reading Jackie Cerone FBI Files . When Jackie cerone was moaning that Gus Alex was ribbing him all the time ( taking the piss out of him ) and wanted to put him on the carpet lol ( take it up with the bosses ) It showed Gus Alex had a lot of power . For Jackie cerone the Killer to Moan to MURRAY Humphreys About Gus Alex lol

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Originally Posted By: rickydelta
Roger that Bro . Also it made me laugh when i was Reading Jackie Cerone FBI Files . When Jackie cerone was moaning that Gus Alex was ribbing him all the time ( taking the piss out of him ) and wanted to put him on the carpet lol ( take it up with the bosses ) It showed Gus Alex had a lot of power . For Jackie cerone the Killer to Moan to MURRAY Humphreys About Gus Alex lol


Yeah thats true, I also remember reading some convos where Humphreys or Alex presented their authority over some of the Italians such as Cerone


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Re: Gus Alex's timeline [Re: Toodoped] #922663
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Yeah they sure had Smarts . They would of had the top job if they both was Italians smile

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