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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914712
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Its fucking awesome to see you back , PB. How have you been? I hope all is well with you, man. And I'm truly sorry to hear about your old man.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914721
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Good to have you back PB, drop me a PM sometime

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914722
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Was Bowat indicted? He's from the Bronx and has been unhappy I believe (didn't he side with the Brooklyn faction)? Unless I have my guys mixed up.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: baldo] #914724
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Originally Posted By: baldo
Was Bowat indicted? He's from the Bronx and has been unhappy I believe (didn't he side with the Brooklyn faction)? Unless I have my guys mixed up.


Bowat's from Harlem, pushing 80 years old and in the family's bad graces.


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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914728
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PB very sorry to hear that about your father , it's one of the hardest things I have ever gone through as you are experiencing .


And yes only time will tell who and where will rise to the top of the family obviously there is money being made and they don't want to lose what has taken so long to build , so I am sure someone will stand out pretty soon.

Good to hear from you !


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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: pizzaboy] #914731
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
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vacuum at the top,, conte , zapploa, capra ect. next wave on top



True Bronx , the BK guys just maybe licking there chops !!!!


John castelucci who is the main capo in Brooklyn has also been indicted

The Jersey faction is much closer to the Bronx/Westchester faction than to Brooklyn. Especially in construction and trucking, which is that family's bread and butter. Time will tell. And I predict a heavyweight (who has been unhappy for some time) is gonna turn. Call it a hunch.

PB , great to have you back , I've missed you my friend . Sorry to hear about your old man , email me and we can catch up

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914732
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If Bowat's been kept out of the loop for this long how will he have details to rat , it would be all second hand news .

Not saying he was not a stepping stone the Feds used but it's just unlikely, more likely that one of the Bronx skippers or someone close to the Bronx guys from a different borough was busted and rolled.

Don't know if these guys are all on the street or were busted already in this indictment

But Capra, Di Simone, Giampa, Santorelli are all from the Bronx or partly.

Does anyone have a list of the Jersey skippers or Jersey made guys with a head on there shoulders that could be tied into the construction / Trucking end of this ?

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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914739
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Would be surprised if it's him but Migliore has barely had a mention in recent years, high ranking member who hasn't been pinched since the early 90's I don't think.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914741
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Bowat wasnt indicted , I dont believe.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914742
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So another quick skim of the indictmemt trucello and the consig dinapoli big charge is loan sharking. They guy from bk big john is loans and un taxed cigs. They are all charged with rico consp. Thou. The rest is all the bronx crea and his kid plus madonna charged with all murder shit which will be going to trial. I mena you think about it . Its just creas crew. The bk guy probaly had a joint racket with him. Maybe it would go to queens and bk or the golf guy avellino. They all say there retired its all bullshit. If they get that message from r
Prison they feel like there 40 yrs old again. Wasup pizza.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914743
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Great to have ya back PB

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914748
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Deepest condolences PB....lost my Dad 7months ago-worst part of life....great to see you back on-keep that heart in order!!!!!


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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: pizzaboy] #914753
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PB, Good to see you back my friend and sorry for the loss of your Father may he rest in peace.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: TommyGambino] #914764
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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
Would be surprised if it's him but Migliore has barely had a mention in recent years, high ranking member who hasn't been pinched since the early 90's I don't think.


How long has it been since Migliore been in the administration, and why was he removed from that ?


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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914776
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Read miglore was amuso first consig then he got 100 yrs for ract.. fliped his case got out in 92 then casso tried to kill him.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914777
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Amuso was in jail casso still free in 92. That when he was making a plan to take over the family. Then amuso shelved him in 93.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: pmac] #914789
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Originally Posted By: pmac
Amuso was in jail casso still free in 92. That when he was making a plan to take over the family. Then amuso shelved him in 93.


Ok .... But I thought Miglore was still there into the millennia ?


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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914791
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He flipped the 100 yr bid they called it the concrete club 2 or some shit maybe he was out on bail when they tried to kill him but he plead out to 10yrs. Old law new law i dont no but hes been a free man probaly since 2000 give or take.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914793
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I no were throwing out names how do you think could be the rat. This guy neil is super rich theres pic of his house and his pigeons clubs this guy is retired. The guy bowat just got out probaly on parole so i doubt crea and them would have him around plus that guys a lifer he wanted to start a war over the table at raos. He dont care if he dies n jail he just did like 20 even getting busted for selling herion in prison. Its gonna be a young guy.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914798
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I still dont think that it necessarily has to be someone who's unindicted who possibly flipped. I'd bet on Caldwell , but as seen in the Lenny Strollo situation, it may just be the black mob associate who holds his weight and takes it on the chin. But who knows at this point, it may just be someone who's still on the street. I dont think a guy like Migliore would give up the beans though, taking a plea isnt the same as ratting or giving up information on co-conspirators and friends, necessarily. I don't think the theory of it being Madonna holds much weight either.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914800
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Migliore retired in good graces by the entirety of NYC families, not just the Lucchese family. Bowat has been kept at arms length by a lot of members in the family cause of that table fiasco.


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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914801
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Not sure why so many of you think Caldwell is the one who flipped. He's clearly a shooter but I doubt he had access to the high level info the Feds wanted to put this together. Who do you guys think he can realistically implicate besides Londonio? Of course none of know for sure but IMO Caldwell is pretty unlikely.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914806
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Joseph fotti is the guy who has flipped , his brother guy fotti is a made guy and close to crea

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914808
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Originally Posted By: domwoods74
Joseph fotti is the guy who has flipped , his brother guy fotti is a made guy and close to crea



Dom: where did you get this info ?

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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914809
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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: Snakes] #914810
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Originally Posted By: Snakes
Capeci


Yeah capeci , everyone can stop speculating now and talking shite

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: ralphie_cifaretto] #914813
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Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto
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Blacks are in prison for no reason ??? Haha, thats a funny statement. Too bad its totally false.
The liberal media makes it appear that most blacks are in prison for minor drug offenses like selling a small bag of weed or getting caught with a few joints..total bull shit. They are in for violent offenses amd selling large quanities of drugs that are more dangerous than weed ( crack and heroin). Lets not even talk about all the strong armed robberies, car jackings, home invasions, and murder.
I know more than a few white guys that did prison time for selling weed as well as minor gambling offenses yet no one talks about that.
Almost 80% of all blacks are born out of wedlock. Dont even tell me its due to poverty, look at all the wealthy black athletes and rappers, they all have out of wedlock kids. Thats a culture, not anything to do with the white man.
They stop having out of wedlock children and 85% of their issues disappear.
Hate to sound harsh but we all know its true.


youre 100% correct. its too bad that so many americans want to defend all these thugs. if they were white, they would want them to burn. black children have no role models, no man in the house and their mom fucks everyone. good american values arent being taught in these households.



In a thread that's got nothing to do with 'blacks'. You two still couldn't help yourselves.

Utterly laughable on a forum dedicated to (white) criminals. I bet you'd throw a fit if posters talked racist crap about Italians and their ways

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914814
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Can't believe people are speculating on whether M Madonna is informing/co_operating. After the amount of jail time the guys done in stand up fashion.No way.

I also doubt the black guy awaiting trial has the inside knowledge to implicate this amount of top guys.

Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914816
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Maybe the individual who is ratting has been giving the Feds info on the sly, Ray Curto style, over a sustained period of time, perhaps prior to the circumstances in the inductment.


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Re: Lucchese hierarchy bust [Re: domwoods74] #914821
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Foti, wore a wire before and after the Meldish murder and had access to and recorded conversations before the murder and continued to do so afterwards. According to Capeci, the feds also recorded jailhouse conversations that led to this indictment, he also mentions that the Feds had other informers which helped them build the case, but these informers outside of Foti, remain unnamed.

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