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Re: Philly Family Newark Crew Present Day [Re: hoodlum] #913392
05/21/17 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: hoodlum
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Yes,but I dont think they're nearly as big as the days when funzi & tony bananas were fighting over it..isnt newark a shithole,as well as trenton?


Guys thanks so much for all the responses... so the consensus is that Scoops is still firmly in charge and that Big Lou Fazzini is the acting day to day manager per se or the crew? Does anyone know more about the extent of this crew with the Luccheses/ Gambinos/Genovese NJ crews in terms of gambling and loan sharking?

Hoodlum my friend I appreciate the kind words from another thread.. sorry to you and anyone else if I haven't answered you guys in here been crazy busy with my little girl being real sick
Mikey, I hope it's not serious, she get's well soon, I will say a prayer @ Mass on Sunday,as well as keep her in my daily prayer.


Hoodlum I appreciate the kind words my friend means alot... sorry i didnt thank you for the thought sooner my man, just been busy w her... worst part is shes only 2 so she isn't quite able to communicate when shes in pain, having GI/digestive issues, but shes hangin in doing better somewhat... hope you and the family are doing well bud


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Re: Philly Family Newark Crew Present Day [Re: mikeyballs211] #913418
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What role does Nicky O play in Phillies jersey mob, I've read he use to be really big in Bloomfield


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Re: Philly Family Newark Crew Present Day [Re: mikeyballs211] #913420
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Nicky O lives down by the shore. He was working at a pool store. Thats no joke.

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Re: Philly Family Newark Crew Present Day [Re: Belmont] #913422
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Originally Posted By: Belmont
Nicky O lives down by the shore. He was working at a pool store. Thats no joke.


Toms River?

Re: Philly Family Newark Crew Present Day [Re: mikeyballs211] #913439
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Wouldnt be surprised if he just said fuck it after the whole Fresolone situation.

Re: Philly Family Newark Crew Present Day [Re: SinatraClub] #913449
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Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Wouldnt be surprised if he just said fuck it after the whole Fresolone situation.


Nah he was jammed up and indicted again in the late 1990s post Fresolone when the whole Philly North Jersey crew was yet again indicted.

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Re: Philly Family Newark Crew Present Day [Re: Belmont] #913456
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Originally Posted By: Belmont
Nicky O lives down by the shore. He was working at a pool store. Thats no joke.


lol you're kidding a made soldier in the mob is working not owning or running swag in a pool supply store down the Shore?.. damn how the mafia has fallen, i mean maybe its a no show or limited show for parole and to show legit income?.. trying to give the guy some credit

Is Nicky O considered a hitter or more of an earner? I know nothing about him.. although idk how much of an earner he can be working at fuckin Sylvan Pools (not that there's anything wrong with that)


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Re: Philly Family Newark Crew Present Day [Re: mikeyballs211] #913472
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Originally Posted By: mikeyballs211
Originally Posted By: Belmont
Nicky O lives down by the shore. He was working at a pool store. Thats no joke.


lol you're kidding a made soldier in the mob is working not owning or running swag in a pool supply store down the Shore?.. damn how the mafia has fallen, i mean maybe its a no show or limited show for parole and to show legit income?.. trying to give the guy some credit

Is Nicky O considered a hitter or more of an earner? I know nothing about him.. although idk how much of an earner he can be working at fuckin Sylvan Pools (not that there's anything wrong with that)



That saying once your in you can not get out is just like most of the rules in that life now days , more like if you are a big money maker you can't get out or if you have illegitimate rackets if you turn then back to the family you can drift away .

Now if you are a killer and you were close to administration and times change like it has and there is no need for just a killer you best get a job to make it cos the family is not going to support you financially and obviously if you know to much you are gone either way bad situation .

But there are thousands of cases of guys that have just faded off into regular jobs to support there blood families and have never herd from again .


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Re: Philly Family Newark Crew Present Day [Re: mikeyballs211] #913475
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Nicky started as a gambino associate. He later transferred overbto Patty Specs.
His button isnt recognized. Nickys father " buddy or buddy O " was an associate, i dont think he was made.
Nicky grew up in north newark and lived in bloomfield . He was around a lot of guys and made a lot of money; he also had major balls. I dont think he is working at a pool store any longer. Working at a pool store probably had more to do with him getting released from prison, being on paper, amd needing some legit income. Nothing wrong with that.

Re: Philly Family Newark Crew Present Day [Re: mikeyballs211] #913789
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Originally Posted By: mikeyballs211
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Originally Posted By: mikeyballs211
Originally Posted By: hoodlum
Yes,but I dont think they're nearly as big as the days when funzi & tony bananas were fighting over it..isnt newark a shithole,as well as trenton?


Guys thanks so much for all the responses... so the consensus is that Scoops is still firmly in charge and that Big Lou Fazzini is the acting day to day manager per se or the crew? Does anyone know more about the extent of this crew with the Luccheses/ Gambinos/Genovese NJ crews in terms of gambling and loan sharking?

Hoodlum my friend I appreciate the kind words from another thread.. sorry to you and anyone else if I haven't answered you guys in here been crazy busy with my little girl being real sick
Mikey, I hope it's not serious, she get's well soon, I will say a prayer @ Mass on Sunday,as well as keep her in my daily prayer.


Hoodlum I appreciate the kind words my friend means alot... sorry i didnt thank you for the thought sooner my man, just been busy w her... worst part is shes only 2 so she isn't quite able to communicate when shes in pain, having GI/digestive issues, but shes hangin in doing better somewhat... hope you and the family are doing well bud
Life is a little ruff around the edges here too my man,,had to move my 88 yr. old aunt with me & the wife,been her caretaker,p.o.a. & everything in between,4 quite a while now but now it's a little different w/o the home nurses she had when she was home,everythings economics & love of family,I never thought when I was a little kid that this woman who bailed me out a couple a times (gave me a place 2 live)in the early 80s after my mom passed & dad basically kicked me out @ 18,that i would be changing her diapers & spoon feeding her pureed food & walking her paper skin body 2 the toilet etc..I had 2 go on per diem @ my real job ,,what a mess..anyways,,thanx 4 the feedback.


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Re: Philly Family Newark Crew Present Day [Re: mikeyballs211] #913809
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Hoodlum, as tough as that must be, you are a wonderful human being. Im serious.

Re: Philly Family Newark Crew Present Day [Re: mikeyballs211] #913819
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I've got tremendous respect for what you're doing Hoodlum.

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Re: Philly Family Newark Crew Present Day [Re: Aces] #913821
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Hoodlum, as tough as that must be, you are a wonderful human being. Im serious.

i agree !

Re: Philly Family Newark Crew Present Day [Re: mikeyballs211] #913846
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Kinda find it hard to believe they dont recognize this guy as a made guy he took the oath cutt his finger even if they didnt merlino and uncle joe didnt make it rite? Read on here the guys a tuff guy not a fake. Kinda a slap in the face to the philly bosses for nj or nyc guys to not respect him membership bet its bullshit. I read that guy fresolone book wasnt bad. They had there induction into the philly family in the bronx at one of the inductees houses. Even the other 3 guys arnt either wouldnt they just do it over.

Re: Philly Family Newark Crew Present Day [Re: mikeyballs211] #913847
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Wasnt it the current capo scoops making the whole beef saying the guy patty specs didnt ask nyc kinda a sucker move or his behalf.

Re: Philly Family Newark Crew Present Day [Re: mikeyballs211] #913890
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I heard somewhere that when narducci got out of prison he had to be made again into the merlino admin,is this true? Merlino doesn't recognize your status as a made man unless its under him?


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Re: Philly Family Newark Crew Present Day [Re: mikeyballs211] #913964
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re: Billy brizzi: Aces: & Meyerlansky...u r very kind dudes..thank u from the bottom of my heart.


I didn't want to leave blood on your carpet...
Re: Philly Family Newark Crew Present Day [Re: furio_from_naples] #913979
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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples


I found a HD image of the philly family chart in 2016 with capo,soldiers and associates. The north Jersey had as Giacomo said 6 made men and 11 associates.



Don't see a few guys on the chart unless dead or other ...

Bobby Louise Jr

Frank De Pasquale


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Re: Philly Family Newark Crew Present Day [Re: mikeyballs211] #913992
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I downloaded it but when I tried to enlarge it the faces and names becamed blurry


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Re: Philly Family Newark Crew Present Day [Re: Serpiente] #913993
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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples


I found a HD image of the philly family chart in 2016 with capo,soldiers and associates. The north Jersey had as Giacomo said 6 made men and 11 associates.



Don't see a few guys on the chart unless dead or other ...

Bobby Louise Jr

Frank De Pasquale
















@Serp- Wth regards to Bobby Louise Jr you aren't referring to Bobby "Boston Bobby" Louisi Jr who flipped in ~2001 because of that Previte coke deal and is now a minister "preaching the word of God" under the alias "Alphonse Esposito"? If so, don't think he should be on the chart any longer.

With regards to Frank DePasquale... I've always been curious about this one. He most certainly does exist and is connected being that he is a first cousin to the Ciancaglini's (Johnny Chang's cousin who greeted him at the airport in '95 upon his return from his first prison stint, and he was a pallbearer in Mikey Chang's funeral). He is a successful lawyer with an office on South Broad street and is still very actively practicing to this day. He was actually one of Anthony Nicodemo's defense attorneys in the Gino DiPietro murder trial. He also does a lot of legal work for guys in The Family such as Eric Esposito and A few other made guys who have businesses (LLCs) registered at his Law Office's address. That said, with him being a legitimate lawyer and what not, is he truly involved and even made in The Family? Or is he more of a Bobby Desimone type... Involved on the fringes, etc? I've just always been curious about his actually involvement and to what extent he is involved and if he's even actually made or not in The Family? I know his name came up in the Ligambi RICO Trial where I believe it was Michael Orlando who testified that Frank DePasquale and Albert Lancellotti Jr were both made (he might have named 1-2 others in addition to those two as well?). Any insight, confirmation, details, thoughts with regards to Frank DePasquale and his involvement, being made, etc would be most appreciated!

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PHL-MOB yeah that's right I was not paying any attention back then to what was going on , but he flipped!!!

And yes Frank is said by some very reliable people(well as reliable as they are) to be made .

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Re: Philly Family Newark Crew Present Day [Re: mikeyballs211] #913995
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Will their be any room for Anthony staino when he gets out? Maybe maintain his capo position?


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Originally Posted By: thebigfella
Will their be any room for Anthony staino when he gets out? Maybe maintain his capo position?


@bigfella- I think Staino is very capable and not only that, but he has proven that he is in fact capable, loyal (did his time) and was effective in a leadership role. He probably won't be in an Admin role, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was a South Jersey Capo again upon his release. In the 80s during the Scarfo years, there were more than one South Jersey Capos/Crews so there's no reason there couldn't be more than one Capo/Crew operating in South Jersey. The real question is Staino's health. I've heard that Anthony Staino has some sort of degenerative disease that has really been eating away at him. If you even look at pictures of him when he was on the street in the early-to-mid 2000s (2000-2011) compared to pictures of him during the trial and post-trial it's like night and day. He looks like he's aged 40 years in the span of 3-4 years. Not sure exactly what he has or what's going on, but I've definitely heard he has something and I'm not sure if this means that he's close to passing away, or if he's just so sick that even if he makes it out of jail alive after he serves his 8-10 years or whatever it was if he will even be healthy enough to operate let alone run a crew?

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I didn't hear that, can you post a most recent picture? I thought maybe it will be held against him that he cried in court


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Bigfella, I don't think phil or any of the old timers had to be remade to be recognized

Also, there have been a lot of reports about phil having issues with all these guys, positively not accurate

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Originally Posted By: Serpiente
PHL-MOB yeah that's right I was not paying any attention back then to what was going on , but he flipped!!!

And yes Frank is said by some very reliable people(well as reliable as they are) to be made .


I assumed you meant Shawn Vetere since Luisi flipped

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Shawn Vetere is on the above chart. Does anyone have any info on the Boston crew and whether or not any of the remaining guys that Merlino made back in he 90s are still active and/or operating? And if so, what're they up to and have there been any new additions. The only thing I've heard as of recent is that those Boston guys were "with" Borgesi who brought them into the fold under the Merlino flag and additionally it was reported by Scott Bernstein that Borgesi had been meeting with "Boston mobsters" recently in Philly even. Not sure if he meant that Borgesi had been meeting with Patriarca guys or if he had been meeting with the remenants of his Boston Crew, etc? I don't have much info on these guys nor do I hear much about them so I'm curious if anyone knows anything...

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Originally Posted By: PHL_Mob
Shawn Vetere is on the above chart. Does anyone have any info on the Boston crew and whether or not any of the remaining guys that Merlino made back in he 90s are still active and/or operating? And if so, what're they up to and have there been any new additions. The only thing I've heard as of recent is that those Boston guys were "with" Borgesi who brought them into the fold under the Merlino flag and additionally it was reported by Scott Bernstein that Borgesi had been meeting with "Boston mobsters" recently in Philly even. Not sure if he meant that Borgesi had been meeting with Patriarca guys or if he had been meeting with the remenants of his Boston Crew, etc? I don't have much info on these guys nor do I hear much about them so I'm curious if anyone knows anything...



That's a good point because Skinny gave George something when he ruled against him and you know George would be just the guy to want a crew of guys from a other area , so just may be something to it .

Obviously if he is seen still meeting with guys you will have the answer or if he is seen up there again it would infact look like it's true.


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misconception is that George brought in the boston guys in the 90s..inaccurate, and not just by my words, get the 302s from luisi, it will back it up, not true..George got close with bobby after they were brought in..merlino and bobby carozza sr were away together, that wasn't the introduction either..another boston guy (Italian from Charlestown) was away with joey and natale, that was the initial introduction....far as recent, beats me, shawn wont even j walk, so he isn't doing anything...far as a crew? luisi is in witsec, and shawn..who else was "brought in", your guess is as good as mine..but I disagree with as far as being thrown a bone to Georgie, I don't think anything is wrong between the 2 of them, more hype than anything else...

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Originally Posted By: PHL_Mob
Shawn Vetere is on the above chart. Does anyone have any info on the Boston crew and whether or not any of the remaining guys that Merlino made back in he 90s are still active and/or operating? And if so, what're they up to and have there been any new additions. The only thing I've heard as of recent is that those Boston guys were "with" Borgesi who brought them into the fold under the Merlino flag and additionally it was reported by Scott Bernstein that Borgesi had been meeting with "Boston mobsters" recently in Philly even. Not sure if he meant that Borgesi had been meeting with Patriarca guys or if he had been meeting with the remenants of his Boston Crew, etc? I don't have much info on these guys nor do I hear much about them so I'm curious if anyone knows anything...


Vetere is on the chart under retired/inactive


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