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Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Moe_Tilden] #908388
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
In fairness, only a moron would think Basciano's kid wasn't in the mafia to begin with.

And it's common knowledge that Crea's kid started in a Lucchese farm team.


Crea's kid began as a Tanglewood Boy right? I believe he was in that farm team.

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908389
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Dude corne on your taking this shit way too seriously but I'm sure your just kidding

Nobody is going to know for sure who is what outside a handful of pepes but again I know u just playing

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908395
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PB was on the money more often than not. Giacomo would deliberately go about to create fake names and scenarios and add them with known names and instances to make his lies seem more legit, with the intention of misleading people. Theres a difference between just being inaccurate, and telling straight up falsehoods to send people off course. Just saying.

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908398
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Well he either unknowingly posted inaccurate information vis-a-vis Crea's son, Basciano's son and Bellomo or the other option is he knowingly posted inaccurate information because he didn't want to throw them under the bus/wasn't public knowledge/FBI monitor the site/some other reason.

Lots of people then believe Crea's son isn't in the mafia when he is etc. so I don't see what the difference is between what PB did there and what GV is alleged to have done - but maybe I'm just thinking about it too much.

Maybe it's just a surface similarity.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not shitting on PB and his forum contributions. Perhaps, he says one thing on the boards and another in the private message functions.


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Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908405
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I don't really remember too much of Giacomo's posts, but if I recall correctly he was just making shit up to sound important. Whereas PB knew these people on a personal level and didn't want to put their business out there, even on an internet forum. I agree it would have made more sense just to say nothing about them.

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908419
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I certainly don't know as much as some people on here... but I do know some Westchester info.....and PB was always spot on whenever he posted about such happenings.


"I'll give you undignified. Go fuck yourself. You, Phil... whoever. He's my fuckin' cousin."

"My name is George. I'm unemployed and live with my parents"..
Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908430
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Some people are reading too much into it I think. PB got some stuff right and some wrong

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908432
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@Tommy

Yeah, that's basically how I see it. Also, Pizza being from the Bronx, it's always going to give his perspective a little slant.

In his eyes the Bronx guys probably are the center of Mob universe. Like Brooklyn was for a, say Henry Hill. The way Camac and Moore was for Caramandi, or Al Darcos Harlem. Fora guy who came up in Gottis Queens, Queens was probably it, a Genovese Jersey guy probably sees Jersey as more important than Long Island.

I feel like that's the disconnect when looking at the Luchesse leadership. This idea that the Bronx guys were just superior, cause they had white collar rackets and money. I think thats just a little off.

This is THREE ( out of five) acting or current bosses that are locked up. And when you see Cantarellas on TV, it's no wonder. Maybe money ISNT the most important thing when it comes to LEADERSHIP.....

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908435
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Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Moe_Tilden] #908438
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Wait. People complain about Giacomo Vacari spreading misinformation but it's okay if Pizza does it?

I'm not having a go at either btw.

I just think it's a bit ironic.


I didn't see you in a hurry to call PB out when he was still around, now that is what I find a bit ironic.

Vacari made up shit almost every time he posted/still posts. If you can't see the difference then well I'm not surprised.

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908439
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Myself and PB had it out several times. I'm pretty sure he doesn't need sycophants like you fighting his battles for him.

And I'm not surprised you can't see the similarities when your head is so far up his ass.

And again, as I emphasized, I am not calling out PB nor Giacomo Vacari.



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Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Moe_Tilden] #908440
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
I don't see what the difference is between what PB did there and what GV is alleged to have done


As I said above now you want to try and shit on PB now that he is not here, and "alleged"? Are you freaking serious? There was a HUGE difference between the two.

GTFOH

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908441
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I never said they were exactly the same did I?

I said there were similarities between what PB did re: Crea, Bellomo and Basciano (off the top of my head) and what GV was accused of doing.

That's all.


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Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Moe_Tilden] #908442
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Myself and PB had it out several times. I'm pretty sure he doesn't need sycophants like you fighting his battles for him.

And I'm not surprised you can't see the similarities when your head is so far up his ass.

And again, as I emphasized, I am not calling out PB nor Giacomo Vacari.



Sycophant huh? You fucking wished. I just call it like I see it, and I sure don't remember you telling PB he was full of shit and was a liar back then but you're damn sure doing it now. But since you and your buddy Vacari got kicked off the other site you hate anyone that is there.

Cry me a river

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Moe_Tilden] #908443
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
I never said they were exactly the same did I?

I said there were similarities between what PB did re: Crea, Bellomo and Basciano (off the top of my head) and what GV was accused of doing.

That's all.


You said you didn't see the difference, and once again "alleged"? He was proven wrong and it was proven he made shit up. If you can't see the difference between the two then you are indeed an idiot, which is something we have known from the start. Have fun replying because I've said my part. You and Vacari can make shit up together, you want to talk about sycophants? Yet you still say it was alleged Vacari made shit up? That's funny lol Have a good day you fucking tool.

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908444
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Well, first off, when he was here the intel re: Bellomo and Crea was completely different so why would anyone call him out on it then?

Since then it turns out the intel is completely different.

Go back over several of my posts. I said he was either mistaken about several things or deliberately lied about them.

It's not really an accusation so much as a fact, and several people agree with me.

Vacari is not my buddy.

And I'm not carrying a vendetta over being banned from "the other site".

Though it was a vendetta from people like you carrying grudges from over here to that site that got me banned for doing nothing wrong.

Kind of petty, wouldn't you agree?


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Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Moe_Tilden] #908446
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Well, first off, when he was here the intel re: Bellomo and Crea was completely different so why would anyone call him out on it then?

Since then it turns out the intel is completely different.

Go back over several of my posts. I said he was either mistaken about several things or deliberately lied about them.

It's not really an accusation so much as a fact, and several people agree with me.

Vacari is not my buddy.

And I'm not carrying a vendetta over being banned from "the other site".

Though it was a vendetta from people like you carrying grudges from over here to that site that got me banned for doing nothing wrong.

Kind of petty, wouldn't you agree?


You called him a sycophant for no apparent reason, just for that you should get a 5 day vacation. Dixie hasnt used not even one disrespectful word before you called him a sycophat.

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908447
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Sycophant isn't a profanity or an insult, though English isn't your first language so I'll give you a pass for that.


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Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908451
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@Dante

That's actually a good article by Scott there. Madonna was close to Larca, who has or had Bellomo's ear. With these families being close already, and his pedigree, funny. I know it's cliche at this point, but you got your white collar Crea, and blue collar Madonna, both equally respected in their specialties. Must be a good team....

If Crea dodges the murder indictment, the thing is, will his son skate too? I gotta read the thing, lol

This makes me wonder, yet again, does anyone know who supplied Amuso?
Did he and Casso, pick up after Madonna was off the street?

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908453
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And Goddamn, Madonna is kind of a brazen guy, huh?

Walk these ten kilos through customs?!!!

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908454
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No it isnt my first lango, but it is an insult since it was not what Dixie was doing, he was just stating the obvious and he is right. And when a person is right, and I and others agree that he is, it can not be qualified as sycophancy. But the more important thing here is that you meant it as an insult witch once again in orders you to a 5 day vacation. Have a pleasant evening.

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You do know saying people should be banned is a bannable offense, right?

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If you can't see the difference then well I'm not surprised.


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GTFOH


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If you can't see the difference between the two then you are indeed an idiot, which is something we have known from the start.


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Have a good day you fucking tool.


If my "sycophant" comment is as bad as any of those things then you really are reaching and should probably quit before you get yourself into any more trouble.


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Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: CabriniGreen] #908456
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Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
@Dante

That's actually a good article by Scott there. Madonna was close to Larca, who has or had Bellomo's ear. With these families being close already, and his pedigree, funny. I know it's cliche at this point, but you got your white collar Crea, and blue collar Madonna, both equally respected in their specialties. Must be a good team....

If Crea dodges the murder indictment, the thing is, will his son skate too? I gotta read the thing, lol

This makes me wonder, yet again, does anyone know who supplied Amuso?
Did he and Casso, pick up after Madonna was off the street?


According to D'Arco, Casso and Amuso's heroin was laced with caffeine and of shit quality.

They supposedly screwed him on a few drug deals.


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Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908457
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Yes it is worse because it was an uncalled comment that starts fights. And you started it, and you always do. Also stating that Dixies head is in PBs ass witch isnt physically possible, LOL. And saying that you should go to a 5 day vacation isnt a bad thing, I bet you can use the rest. No need for threats Moe, Im sure your old enough not to do that behind the keyboard.

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I didn't see you in a hurry to call PB out when he was still around, now that is what I find a bit ironic.

Vacari made up shit almost every time he posted/still posts. If you can't see the difference then well I'm not surprised.


This comment came before any of my comments.

And again, "sycophant" is not a profane word or an insult.

Now stop dragging the thread further off topic.

If you have anything else to say PM me.


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Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908460
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Also I wish that saying people should get banned was a bannable offense, you would be gone a long time ago. You said it just to me like 50 times. come on moe dont be a child, LOL.

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908463
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Read amuso had some scam in the bronx early 70tys something to do with a crooked parole officer and was buddy longos driver. And again he made steve crea the acting consig during the same time they made al darco the acting boss.

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908464
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Wonder if its spillover charges from the parello merlino cases.

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Moe please just let it go

This was solid news and could of been a great discussion for once but now the thread is filled with worthless info

I have nothing against you so don't take this personal but u just love starting pointless drama that tends to kills a thread . Please just start a different thread when u want to mix it up . thank u

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The thread was derailed by dixiemafia and alexisandarns.

Everything was peaceful until they started being belligerent and provocative.

Just scroll up ^^^^^^^^


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