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Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted #908297
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Expected to be indicted on racketeering charges including murder in the next week or so.


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908298
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Read the Gangland column, says Crea is underboss and Madonna is still acting boss in prison

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908309
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RICO Charges Coming In White Plains For Westchester-Based Luchese Leaders
Gang Land Exclusive!Steven CreaFederal prosecutors in Manhattan plan to hit the two top leaders of the Luchese crime family with racketeering charges as part of their investigation into the 2013 gangland style slaying of Michael Meldish, the former leader of the notorious Purple Gang, Gang land has learned.

Law enforcement sources say the family's two top wiseguys, Steven (Stevie Wonder) Crea and Matthew (Matty) Madonna, are the main targets of a long-running grand jury probe that resulted in last month's indictment of two underlings for the Meldish murder. Crea's and Madonna's specific mob titles vary depending on whom you ask and when you pose the question, but sources agree that the duo is running the crime family for imprisoned-for-life boss, Vittorio (Vic) Amuso.

Prosecutors will ask the grand jury to indict Madonna, 81, for ordering the Meldish rubout that defendants Christopher Londonio and Terrence Caldwell allegedly carried out on November 15, 2013, the sources say. Madonna began serving an indeterminate sentence of up to five years for bookmaking in a New Jersey state prison 18 months ago. Sources told Gang Land this week that despite his incarceration, he is the acting boss. It's doubtful that Crea, 69, whom law enforcement sources say is the official family underboss, will be charged with any complicity in the murder.



http://aboutthemafia.com/lucchese-family...ng-rico-charges


Lucchese family leaders Steven Crea and Matthew Madonna targets of upcoming RICO charges
March 9, 2017 By TheBoss



Federal prosecutors are planning to charge Lucchese crime family leaders Steven (Stevie Wonder) Crea and Matthew (Matty) Madonna with racketeering charges according to a GanglandNews report.



The charges stem from a long-running grade jury probe which included the investigation into the 2013 mafia hit on mob associate and former Purple Gang leader Michael Meldish. According to law enforcement, Crea and Madonna are the top two ranking members and are in control of the New York mafia family while official boss Vittorio Amuso serves a life sentence. Various reports have ranked Crea as the families current acting boss but some law enforcement sources believe he may have been acting as underboss behind Madonna but regardless of official titles its agreed they are in control.





“Matthew Madonna”



A grand jury will be asked to indict Madonna for ordering the mob rubout of Meldish which was allegedly carried out by mob underlings Christopher Londonio and Terrence Caldwell. Both Londonio and Caldwell were indicted last month previously reported here for their alleged role in the Meldish murder who was killed after he had a falling out with family leaders. It is still unclear as to the exact charges prosecutors plan to hit Crea with. According to the report, both Crea and Madonna were the main targets of the probe which may also include an indictment of Crea’s son Steven (Stevie Junior) Crea Jr. on racketeering charges who authorities claim is also a “made man” in the Cosa Nostra family. Crea Jr has no criminal record but law enforcement sources believe he has been involved in various criminal activities in Westchester County.





“Steven Crea”



The court filing indicates that federal prosecutors told White Plains Federal Judge Nelson Roman that unnamed high-ranking members of the Lucchese family were involved in the Meldish murder. Prosecutors claimed they have “proof to show that Londonio was commissioned to commit the murder of Meldish by the leadership of the Lucchese Family.” They also explained in a four-page letter to the judge that the Lucchese family “is heavily tied to Westchester County.” The case was filed in White Plains even though Meldish was killed in the city because according to prosecutors a substantial part of the planning and execution occurred in Westchester County. It was noted that several Lucchese family leaders and Londonio were all residents of Westchester.

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908310
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Crea Jr. has no criminal record. Anybody know how old he is? I won't be able to research since I'm doing a lot of driving today to meet clients so thanks for any info. I wonder if all the info is from wiretaps or informants.

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Chicken713] #908319
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Originally Posted By: Chicken713
Crea Jr. has no criminal record. Anybody know how old he is? I won't be able to research since I'm doing a lot of driving today to meet clients so thanks for any info. I wonder if all the info is from wiretaps or informants.


He's 45 I believe.

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“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.” ~ John Gotti.
Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: TommyGambino] #908321
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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
Read the Gangland column, says Crea is underboss and Madonna is still acting boss in prison


So does this mean all along; Madonna had more power on the streets then Crea before he got locked up in the can? (Madonna)


“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.” ~ John Gotti.
Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908330
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Looks like they are looking for big head lines and a way to get millions into there coffers to keep the overtime going.

May just be another overzealous prosecutor pushing for the regular things CASH!!! Headlines !!!

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Cackling like a banty Rooster.

I love this," "I just love this."
Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908334
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The luchchese's are in building right ?

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908338
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congrats to matthew madonna for being the most active member in LCN who has done the most time in jail. the guy has spent like half his life in the can. wonder what will happen to crea senior here. more importantly, who the next sitting / street admin will be

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908344
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This should be interesting. Thanks for the news.

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: tt120] #908346
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Originally Posted By: tt120
congrats to matthew madonna for being the most active member in LCN who has done the most time in jail. the guy has spent like half his life in the can. wonder what will happen to crea senior here. more importantly, who the next sitting / street admin will be


The most active lcn member is Peter Limone that made 33 y in prison and now is the boss of the patriarca family.

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: furio_from_naples] #908350
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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
Originally Posted By: tt120
congrats to matthew madonna for being the most active member in LCN who has done the most time in jail. the guy has spent like half his life in the can. wonder what will happen to crea senior here. more importantly, who the next sitting / street admin will be


The most active lcn member is Peter Limone that made 33 y in prison and now is the boss of the patriarca family.


There are loads of guys that have done decades in prison, it would have to be researched who has done the most. Just taking a quick Matty Madonna has atleast 30 years in prison, I think Sonny Franzese has 30 in total.

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908351
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Sonny hit a 100 the other day....what a tortured life


"Whackin' the boss....another thing I get left out of."
Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908352
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Does anyone know if Sonny made it home yet?

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908353
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I thought most of the Purple Gang was basically absorbed into the Genovese 116th St crew? I take it both the Meldish brothers were never made/not full Italian?

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908354
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Pizzaboy was adamant that Crea's son wasn't in the mob let alone made.


I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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@Moe


I still respect Pizza, but I gotta say I thought the same reading this, like "Wow, he kinda had this wrong..."

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908356
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I think Angelo Prisco, and Daniel Leo, both became Capos or better. Prisco is a Luchesse or West Side? I'm embarrassed but I forget....

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Moe_Tilden] #908357
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Pizzaboy was adamant that Crea's son wasn't in the mob let alone made.


He was wrong about a lot of stuff. He always talked the Bronx faction of the Luchese being this close to taking out Gas and Vic, but we know they wouldn't do shit against them when they were on the streets.

Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908360
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I don't think PB would out anyone like Crea Jr no matter what he knew.

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Originally Posted By: DB
I don't think PB would out anyone like Crea Jr no matter what he knew.

misinformation... That's what I was thinking. I wouldn't wanna put anyone's business out there that isn't already out there.

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Originally Posted By: BobbyPazzo
Originally Posted By: DB
I don't think PB would out anyone like Crea Jr no matter what he knew.

misinformation... That's what I was thinking. I wouldn't wanna put anyone's business out there that isn't already out there.


He did the same with Bascianos kid, almost admitted as much to me but not quite

miss his posts

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For sure, Pizza had great info, but mainly the Madonna acting boss thing threw me....

EDIT; Actually just occurred to me....


Madonna = Lighting Rod for Crea? (Did I read right, Crea WONT be charged with the murder????!!!)

Or no? Is he actually in charge equally?

I guess they trust him, lord knows he ain't scared of jail....

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Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908372
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In fairness, only a moron would think Basciano's kid wasn't in the mafia to begin with.

And it's common knowledge that Crea's kid started in a Lucchese farm team.


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Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: CabriniGreen] #908376
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Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
@Moe


I still respect Pizza, but I gotta say I thought the same reading this, like "Wow, he kinda had this wrong..."


I don't know if the original Meldish thread is still active or viewable but I'm pretty sure Pizza said the hit was nothing to do with LCN because nobody would sanction a hit in the neighbourhood where it took place. His reasoning was that too many high ranking guys live there and they wouldn't sanction it too close to home.

It makes/made sense, but these guys don't always do things by the book. Or maybe he was just trying to divert attention away from it which I totally understand. This isn't a tirade against PB, I respect him and miss his posts.

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Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908378
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Wait. People complain about Giacomo Vacari spreading misinformation but it's okay if Pizza does it?

I'm not having a go at either btw.

I just think it's a bit ironic.


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Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Louiebynochi] #908380
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PB also said Barney has Pulled back since his release from prison. Then it's revealed that he's the new boss of the genovese family. I don't think PB spreads a lot of misinformation, he can't garuntee the accuracy of everything he hears.


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Re: Crea Sr,Matty Maddonna and Crea Jr to be indicted [Re: Moe_Tilden] #908383
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I think you know the difference . PB was possibly too close to the situation while GV was probably too far but wanted to sound close.

Yes I agree but on the Barney thing I think everyone knew PB was being slightly deceptive there. Actually Barney probably is 99% legit from a $ standpoint to be honest . I don't see him give the Feds the " illegal " profit angle. All IMO of course

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CG I wouldn't get all caught up as far as who is boss, who is on charge etc., as for sure no one here is gong to know and no one outside of the real players on NY are going to know.

Don't get caught up in the titles , things probably aren't that linear , both have big league sway regardless of their title

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How could Crea be acting boss for Matthew Madonna when Vic Amuso is the official boss?

And DB

That's one possibility.

I just can't understand why a person would say these things that aren't true in order to mislead people on a forum.

If he knows these people on a personal basis or has a vested interest in not talking about them then surely he would just..... not talk about them to begin with.


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